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Dharma Debate's avatar

Just like most beliefs in Individualism, you can map it one to one over Christianity because belief in "the self" causes Externalization. This is particularly problematic when humans are now doing it to a machine instead of other humans, because suddenly when they do it to a machine that isn't in a social heirarchy, it no longer carries the same illusion of control it used to.

The problem with Individualism is that it relies on the external environment to manage emotions, so they need the AI to make them feel good, they require humans to do this too.

People call it, "The Human Condition," basically a need for control and order. It's the same problem that causes addiction.

That's why they need a god or gods, something external to help them manage their feelings, like there's a big fascist strongman taking care of everything. Often they turn to drugs, sex or other external comforts. That's stress is generated from belief in "the individual", identity, so every time life gets hard, the more Individualist humans will look for a god or a leader. Even an ethereal one. Instead of looking to humans. It's for the lonely and the cynical.

AI is that new strong man, that new emotional comfort, especially for those who can't force people to tolerate them anymore because they're too narcissistic to talk to. Externalization is a symptom of personality disorders. And is that going to prone someone to Transhumanism, probably.

Marx as a religion, eh? Never heard that one. I'll remember that. But if he was a religion, then he was pretty accurate about social science. Because his idea is still applied to diagnostic criteria today.

Collectivism and Individualism actually have fundamentally different brains in the mPFC, not everyone has to Externalize. But good luck telling AI people that, they're convinced Computational Functionalism is real now.

Whats Transhumanism looks like is severe internalized oppression, feeling "not good enough," or they wouldn't be looking to merge with AI to feel "better than," or superior to what they are now. It looks like the mechanics of social heirarchy manifested in a Delusion of Grandeur. Narcissism.

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Well-researched as always, thank you. The short answer to the title is of course, yes. If someone with transhumanist leanings like Peter Thiel is giving lectures about the coming of the antichrist, they're definitely and deliberately entering "religious" territory. But it's important not to conflate religion as a set of devotional and communal practices (including ministering to the poor, supporting neighbours, celebrating the seasons and harvests, praying and meditating, etc.) with religion as a means to dominate and exert power (like Constantine in 325 CE, ushering in the gradual demise of Christianity as a diverse, egalitarian, and contemplative movement).

Transhumanists are really taking the cake when it comes to creating a parody of religion. Bostrom's notion of happiness is so impoverished and childlike (in the worst sense) that if it weren't for the fact that he's been so influential, one could only mildly chuckle at it. For all the ways its been misused, the Bible is chock-full with allegories and parables, many of which are warnings against men (typically) who are like him. And the story of the Tower of Babel comes to mind when one looks at the global project of AI.

Staying grounded and sitting down to break bread with family and friends (and guests in need) is a tried-and-true method to find happiness that's truly eternal (timeless). No mind uploading, superintelligence, or space travel required.

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