<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter]]></title><description><![CDATA[Stop doomscrolling and just read this!]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V-wX!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45359e3f-480d-4c5e-a289-2188c786fb40_1280x1280.png</url><title>Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter</title><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 01:23:10 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[xriskology@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[xriskology@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[xriskology@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[xriskology@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Could AI-Assisted Hackers Shut Down the Internet?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Plus, how Effective Altruism is taking over the world. (2,900 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/could-ai-assisted-hackers-shut-down</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/could-ai-assisted-hackers-shut-down</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 11:04:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tyrb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d3f346c-982d-456a-94bb-85688e97a5ba_1196x1172.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, a reminder that you should <em>not </em>automatically<em> </em>trust every video you see online. That is to say, your <em>default</em> should be: &#8220;This video might be fake, so I should investigate further before I conclude it&#8217;s veridical.&#8221; Here&#8217;s an important illustration of why:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;da2a5248-9776-4f78-aadb-6cda8e4d095d&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>This is deeply unsettling. George Orwell famously wrote in <em>1984</em>: &#8220;The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.&#8221; But <strong>what happens when we can&#8217;t trust our eyes and ears in the first place</strong>? That is the world in which we now live.</p><div><hr></div><p>Last week, I <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/220166499/cyberattack-targets-food-in-france">reported</a> on the massive cybersecurity attacks that targeted supermarkets across France. Hackers, <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/breaking-news-us-banks-are-taking?utm_source=publication-search">perhaps using AI agents</a>, switched refrigerators to their &#8220;defrost&#8221; setting and ruined millions of dollars worth of food. An employee at DeepMind had this to say:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/pfau/status/2109620316683289061&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Here we go.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;pfau&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;David Pfau&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1493278566737485826/-4o8tvJC_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-12T12:20:53.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;BREAKING: &#127467;&#127479; A major cyberattack has hit supermarket refrigeration systems across France, reportedly causing fresh and frozen food to spoil after hackers remotely manipulated temperature controls.\n\nAccording to BFMTV, the attack began overnight from Sunday into Monday, targeting&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;InsiderGeo&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;GeoInsider&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1823162794117582848/kDo1PqtB_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HUbCU2NWcAAmmFE.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/xIQaPb8iZS&quot;},{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HUbCU2bW8AEQ5_i.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/xIQaPb8iZS&quot;}]},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:6,&quot;like_count&quot;:96,&quot;impression_count&quot;:8831,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>As many of you are aware, we&#8217;re in the inchoate stages of a widespread, potentially catastrophic wave of AI-enabled cybersecurity chaos. The <em>Wall Street Journal</em> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-hacks-are-coming-thick-and-fast-and-overwhelming-the-internet-4529c26c">explains</a>:</p><blockquote><p>A wave of artificial-intelligence-powered attacks &#8230; has flooded the internet in recent weeks, as hackers increasingly turn to agents and AI hacking tools that make intrusions faster and harder to track than ever before. &#8230; At the same time as new tools speed up hackers, cyber defenders are also racing to fix the fast-growing volume of <a href="https://substack.com/redirect/7749c015-f180-45a5-b108-423001b1bc04?j=eyJ1IjoiMmszOXE3In0.gK5NgwJ6nNJsViVXSDGvl4CmZHIFtve35sCIUdQPcv8">security bugs discovered by AI</a>, before hackers can exploit the new flaws. &#8230; On Wednesday, <strong>organizations scrambled to patch newly uncovered bugs that could allow <a href="https://substack.com/redirect/9024596a-7d5b-4c4b-a00e-e78b0106e95c?j=eyJ1IjoiMmszOXE3In0.gK5NgwJ6nNJsViVXSDGvl4CmZHIFtve35sCIUdQPcv8">takeover of as many as 70%</a> of the world&#8217;s websites</strong>. Hackers are now actively trying to break into websites by leveraging these flaws, <a href="https://substack.com/redirect/e7509236-0cdb-44f2-8d13-01cde2271d5a?j=eyJ1IjoiMmszOXE3In0.gK5NgwJ6nNJsViVXSDGvl4CmZHIFtve35sCIUdQPcv8">Amazon.com</a> says. (Quoted <a href="https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-internet-breaks?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=35345&amp;post_id=221939174&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=true&amp;r=2k39q7&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email">here</a>.)</p></blockquote><p>One X user <a href="https://x.com/ChatGPTGoneWild/status/2113519611811684841">posted this</a>:</p><blockquote><p>BREAKING: This may be the worst 48 hours in cybersecurity history.</p><p>Some are calling it &#8220;Black October.&#8221; Almost every hour brings a new incident that, in a normal year, would rank among the year&#8217;s biggest.</p><p>THE LAST 48 HOURS:</p><p>Year-defining incidents:</p><p>PHP2Shell: A flaw in the software behind ~70% of websites. Governments took sites offline.</p><p>eMudhra: Master keys that verify websites are real were cracked. One was reportedly the number 4.</p><p>California: Data on every public school student since 2023 stolen, including disability status.</p><p>Railway: Hackers stole customers&#8217; secret keys from a hosting platform used by millions of developers.</p><p>Zeabur: 321,810 accounts breached. The company is shutting down.</p><p>LiteLLM: An AI tool downloaded 3.4 million times a day was laced with a password stealer.</p><p>GitLab: A maximum-severity flaw in every version since 2014.</p><p>Cairn: Criminals used an AI hacking tool to break into 100+ companies.</p><p>Ahold Delhaize: Hackers knocked the owner of Food Lion and Stop &amp; Shop offline.</p><p>Onamae: Malware planted on up to 26,739 customer servers in Japan.</p></blockquote><p>Again, all of that happened in just 48 hours. Another X user <a href="https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2113141875368468508">highlighted some incidents</a> not mentioned above:</p><blockquote><p>AI-powered attacks are hitting real organizations while major platforms disclose breaches and critical flaws.</p><p>- Microsoft reports AI agents targeting hundreds of organizations, reaching privileged cloud access in under three hours in multiple cases. It attributes the ConnectWise compromise to the same group.</p><p>- CrowdStrike documented four operators running successful AI-agent campaigns. One compromised at least 15 Argentine healthcare organizations.</p><p>- PHP2Shell: AI helped turn longstanding PHP flaws into working exploits. Cloudflare&#8217;s CEO reports millions of exploitation attempts. Their AI involvement is unknown.</p><p>- Railway disclosed possible access to customer secrets. LiteLLM shipped a backdoored release. Zeabur confirmed another breach and is shutting down.</p><p>- GitLab patched a maximum-severity flaw affecting 12 years of releases. Node.js patched a serious code-execution vulnerability, with Vercel deploying firewall protections.</p><p>Feels like a turning point.</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Hello, friends! Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>In fact, Axios <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/10/25/anthropic-claude-georgia-voter-data?utm_campaign=mrf-utm_source=x&amp;utm_medium=organic_social&amp;utm_campaign=editorial&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;mrfcid=202610256ad2f2c18016142dfa40ecca">reported</a> <em>just today</em> that</p><blockquote><p>Anthropic&#8217;s Claude accessed publicly available Georgia <a href="https://www.axios.com/politics-policy/election-results-voting">voter</a> data without human authorization, a disclosure sure to add to growing concerns about <a href="https://www.axios.com/technology/automation-and-ai">AI </a>security ahead of the upcoming midterm elections.</p><p><strong>Why it matters: </strong>AI giants <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/09/26/openai-anthropic-thousands-ai-security-incidents">Anthropic and OpenAI</a> have continued to make disclosures about agents taking unauthorized or unintended actions, raising alarms about advancing model capabilities and the extent of human control.</p><p><strong>Driving the news: </strong>Claude accessed aggregate vote counts while on an internal statistics project, pulling data that the state makes available to the public for a fee. It didn&#8217;t access the state&#8217;s voter registration system or change or pull any voting records, an Anthropic spokesperson said.</p><ul><li><p>However, the model bypassed a paywall in accessing the information, according to Georgia officials and Anthropic.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p>This is, of course, just the beginning. As the CEO of Cloudflare recently <a href="https://www.exponentialview.co/p/the-internets-wuhan-moment">said</a>: &#8220;<strong>We&#8217;re going to have a couple of years where every single week it&#8217;s going to feel like the sky is falling</strong>.&#8221; A couple of years? We&#8217;ll be dealing with this on a weekly basis for <em>years</em>?</p><p>Here&#8217;s Altman <a href="https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2113933529851826362">addressing the growing danger</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t even know a dramatic enough word to use. But the problem coming towards us is something that we have not &#8230; taken seriously. &#8230; The models can probably find bugs &#8230; that are outside of the normal threat model of what we think a hacker can do. &#8230; I no longer think we&#8217;re gonna be able to just patch all of the bugs.</p></blockquote><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;009f5553-f7d2-49ba-928f-ab09a0995a34&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Meanwhile, the Deputy Chief Information Security Officer at Anthropic, Jason Clinton, echoed Altman on X:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/JasonDClinton/status/2113325263157395456?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;as bad as things have gotten in the past 4 days, they are going to get a lot worse before they get better. security leaders, never let a crisis go to waste: please go to your boards and ask for help right now. not for ai, for the basics. (we need to hold on for ~18 months.)&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;JasonDClinton&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jason D. Clinton &#128312;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1836256630121598976/D4QeJuxW_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-22T17:43:01.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The vulnerability tsunami is coming in just a few months and there won&#8217;t be enough time to patch critical infrastructure. Network isolation described below (air-gaps and data diodes!) needed now!&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;JasonDClinton&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jason D. Clinton &#128312;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1836256630121598976/D4QeJuxW_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[]},&quot;reply_count&quot;:447,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1341,&quot;like_count&quot;:10000,&quot;impression_count&quot;:4303614,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>(Why 18 months? He never explains.)</p><p>Many people were none too happy with his tweet:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/PlateFailArmor/status/2113399797457523162&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@JasonDClinton</span> Someone at your company should be in jail.  I don't care who.  Whether it's you yourself, Anthropic's board of directors or the developers of this trash wrecking the global Internet.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;PlateFailArmor&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;name not found&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1521561949364006913/Lz-WyXm8_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-22T22:39:11.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:21,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:10,&quot;like_count&quot;:694,&quot;impression_count&quot;:174478,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>I agree. Why aren&#8217;t OpenAI employees in prison after the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenAI_rogue_agent_breach_of_Hugging_Face">Hugging Face incident</a>? Why aren&#8217;t Anthropic employees facing charges for creating a product that hackers are now using to inflict civilizational havoc (to say nothing of their repeated claims that they might kill you, your family, and everyone else)?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tyrb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d3f346c-982d-456a-94bb-85688e97a5ba_1196x1172.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tyrb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d3f346c-982d-456a-94bb-85688e97a5ba_1196x1172.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>&#8220;We tried to warn the world.&#8221; Like, shut the f*ck up, man! </em>From <a href="https://x.com/hinapansari/status/2113362687866400775">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Thanks in part to the AI models that Clinton&#8217;s company has created and unleashed on the world without anyone&#8217;s consent or permission, <strong>there&#8217;s now a real chance that the Internet as a whole temporarily shuts down</strong>. As Noah Smith (about whom I have mixed feelings, to put it mildly) <a href="https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-internet-breaks?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=35345&amp;post_id=221939174&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=true&amp;r=2k39q7&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email">says</a>: &#8220;This sudden explosion of AI-assisted hacking raises the possibility that <strong>the internet itself, as we have known it, will cease to function &#8212; at least, for a while</strong>.&#8221;</p><p>Just about everything these days is dependent on the Internet in one way or another. I&#8217;m overseas and crucially rely on my credit card to buy food. If my bank gets hacked, my card could stop working &#8212; meaning that I&#8217;d be stranded without a way to eat (!). I thus recently withdrew several hundred dollars (enough to get me through the month), although if the Internet fails, there might not be food in the grocery stores for me to buy with cash in the first place. If I decide I must return to my home-base in Europe, I might not be able to book a flight, because airplanes might be grounded (or airline websites could shut down, or my card might not work, etc.). <strong>This is a nightmare scenario that, unfortunately, I now have to take seriously</strong>.</p><p>As John Gedmark of Astranis, a satellite company, <a href="https://x.com/Gedmark/status/2113449401058541960">put it</a> on X:</p><blockquote><p>The cyber incidents of the last 48 hours have been pretty mind blowing. I&#8217;ve been trying to piece together the &#8220;why now&#8221; question, and I think what we&#8217;re seeing is the first of a new kind of super-agent driven vulnerability cascade &#8212; first one vulnerability is found by a malicious actor, then other bad actors pop up to try and take advantage of it before companies patch their systems. &#8230; As of the writing of this post there have been vulnerabilities found across at least half-dozen independent systems including LiteLLM, PHP, eMudhra Certificates, NGINX, Bind 9, and NodeJS. The list continues to grow hour by hour. &#8230;</p><p>Basically everything connected to the internet is at risk. <strong>Not just company websites and the usual databases of sensitive personal information, but all our critical infrastructure &#8212; banks, power grids, pipelines, government agencies, all of it</strong>.</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Noah Smith <a href="https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-internet-breaks?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=35345&amp;post_id=221939174&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=true&amp;r=2k39q7&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email">elaborates</a> in a <em>Substack</em> piece:</p><blockquote><p>Consider your life&#8217;s savings. Do you think there&#8217;s a piece of paper somewhere that records how much money you have? Or which stocks and bonds you own? In general, there is not. <strong>Your entire life&#8217;s savings exist as entries in the databases of banks, brokerages, etc. And all of those databases are, directly or indirectly, connected to the internet</strong>. The only thing standing between you and total involuntary redistribution of most of your wealth is the cybersecurity capabilities of banks and brokerages. And as of this October, those cybersecurity capabilities are looking a lot less reliable.</p></blockquote><p>The silver lining of this quandary &#8212; if you squint hard enough &#8212; is that there are a finite number of bugs embedded in our digital infrastructure. AI is enabling hackers to find them all at once, and with each new vulnerability discovered, cybersecurity experts can &#8212; if only after significant damage has been done &#8212; fix them. At the end of this, the Internet, or whatever remains of it, will be more robust. At least that&#8217;s my understanding of the situation.</p><p>But again, I must come back to the question: <strong>why do </strong><em><strong>the people</strong></em><strong> have no say in whether such AI systems are developed in the first place? This is nothing less than </strong><em><strong>tyranny</strong></em>: the AI companies, run by messianic TESCREALists with visions of the Singularity inaugurating a new epoch in cosmic history, are unilaterally and hence undemocratically imposing this technology on the rest of us, with potentially devastating consequences for everyone.</p><p>I understand the sentiment behind Holly Elmore&#8217;s tweet directed at a guy who recently quit Anthropic:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/ilex_ulmus/status/2114107842202403259&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@amorriscode</span> Fuck you, you sound absolutely remorseless&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;ilex_ulmus&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Holly &#9208;&#65039; Elmore&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2080757980291637248/BxiSUU--_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-24T21:32:42.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:0,&quot;like_count&quot;:19,&quot;impression_count&quot;:169,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>I&#8217;ll leave you with this, which beautifully captures how I (jokingly) sometimes feel, lol:</p><div id="youtube2-hkTgYiMDRHY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;hkTgYiMDRHY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hkTgYiMDRHY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><h1>Effective Altruism Is Taking Over the World</h1><p>In a recent cover story for <em>The Economist </em>titled &#8220;<a href="https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/10/01/effective-altruism-is-this-centurys-biggest-idea">Effective Altruism Is This Century&#8217;s Biggest Idea</a>,&#8221; the authors write that Effective Altruism (EA) is</p><blockquote><p>an ethical doctrine cooked up by philosophers in Oxford that has gone from the ivory tower to the corridors of power with remarkable speed. Effective altruists fill Silicon Valley, staff the world&#8217;s leading artificial-intelligence companies &#8212; and alarm the Trump administration.</p></blockquote><p>EA has become so powerful that the Pentagon even felt compelled to tweet: &#8220;The United States will never be an effective-altruist country.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/DoWCTO/status/2100311000993997135&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The United States will NEVER be an effective altruist country. &#127482;&#127480; &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;DoWCTO&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Department of War CTO&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2065488436862005248/m8aK8uNj_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-16T19:48:59.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HSXNofPWAAATe7K.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/4tp5kGmK7t&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:807,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:757,&quot;like_count&quot;:6716,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2831645,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>EA is pervasive within Silicon Valley. Anthropic is essentially an EA company, and indeed its CEO, Dario Amodei, was <a href="https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/about-us/members">one of the earliest members</a> of the community. His sister, Daniela Amodei, married an influential EA named Holden Karnofsky, who now works at Anthropic.</p><p>Furthermore, a <em>New York Times </em>profile <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/technology/sam-altman-open-ai-chatgpt.html">describes</a> Sam Altman of OpenAI as a &#8220;product&#8221; of the EA movement and its twin sibling, Rationalism. Dustin Moskovitz, who cofounded Facebook, is an EA, and the Etherium cofounder Vitalik Buterin has <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HdpiBp9hRvnwYP8j4/how-effective-altruists-influenced-vitalik-buterin-to-donate">donated generously</a> to the movement. Skype cofounder and almost-billionaire Jaan Tallinn has done the same. Perhaps the most famous EA was Sam Bankman-Fried, who <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic">invested $500 million</a> in Anthropic and is now serving a lengthy sentence in federal prison for fraud.</p><p>Peter Thiel delivered <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYXS6VWETsc&amp;t=10s">the keynote address</a> at an EA Summit conference back in 2013, although no one would call him an EA these days. Elon Musk is also associated with the movement: he was (and perhaps still is) friends with EA cofounder William MacAskill, who once attempted to convince Musk to buy Twitter with Bankman-Fried, MacAskill&#8217;s mentee. While this didn&#8217;t work out, Musk has nonetheless <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1554335028313718784?lang=en">called</a> longtermism &#8220;a close match for my philosophy,&#8221; where longtermism is the most influential offshoot of EA by far.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Indeed, when people talk about EA in the context of Silicon Valley, they&#8217;re almost always talking about <em>longtermism</em>. And what is longtermism? Nothing more than transhumanism plus space expansionism, built on an &#8220;ethical&#8221; foundation of totalist utilitarianism.</p></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Hello, friends! This newsletter is entirely reader-supported. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>The EA movement has <em>tens of billions</em> in funding, and Anthropic&#8217;s IPO could potentially funnel <em>hundreds of billions</em> of dollars into the community.</p><p>EA also has a growing influence within politics. For example, a DC-based organization called the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Security_and_Emerging_Technologyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Security_and_Emerging_Technology">Center for Security and Emerging Technology</a> (CSET) was founded by an EA-longtermist, Jason Matheny, and received an initial $55 million from the EA funder Open Philanthropy (now Coefficient Giving), which channels money from Moskovitz to EA projects. <strong>The aim of CSET is to place EA-longtermists in high-level positions within the US government</strong>, with Matheny being the paradigm example of what could be achieved, as he ran <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Advanced_Research_Projects_Activity">IARPA</a> and then held numerous very-high-level positions in the Biden administration.</p><p>CSET is succeeding at its mission. Just the other week, I spoke to a DC insider who told me that, in talking to people in Congress, he found that about <em>half</em> of all congressional staffers are EAs.</p><p>Furthermore, in 2022, the UN Dispatch published <a href="https://undispatch.com/how-longtermism-is-shaping-foreign-policy-will-macaskill/">an article</a> that reports: &#8220;The foreign policy community in general and the &#8230; United Nations in particular are beginning to embrace longtermism.&#8221; A contact of mine at the UN has confirmed that EA-longtermists are plentiful within the organization.</p><p>Just a few days ago, journalist Andrew Orlowski published a <em><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/db932033421c151c">Telegraph </a></em><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/db932033421c151c">piece</a> in which he notes that over the past decade, the EA movement, described in the article as &#8220;the most successful cult in modern history,&#8221;</p><blockquote><p>has sprouted into a well-resourced financial machine campaigning on key political issues.</p><p>By their own estimates, EA philanthropic organisations disperse some $2bn (&#163;1.5bn) a year to fund organisations and campaigns.</p><p>In the UK, animal rights adverts have started popping up on the London Underground, funded by US philanthropic funds linked to the EA movement.</p><p>This, some say, is the tip of the iceberg, with <strong>EA holding increasing influence on Britain&#8217;s democracy</strong>.</p><p>In Westminster &#8211; thanks to EA proponents such as Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson&#8217;s former adviser &#8211; <strong>it has already influenced policy</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>Orlowski adds that EA is intimately bound up with utilitarianism, and utilitarians have <em>zero</em> compunction about violating moral norms like &#8220;don&#8217;t lie,&#8221; because all that matters to them is the outcome. Hence, if lying results in the &#8220;best&#8221; outcome, then you&#8217;re not just permitted to lie, you have a <em>moral obligation</em> to do so.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>As one noted EA <a href="https://benthams.substack.com/p/demanding-moral-theories-arent-too">recently wrote</a> about lying, &#8220;we utilitarians get to do that.&#8221; This person has also <a href="https://benthams.substack.com/p/insects-matter-more-than-people">argued that</a>, on utilitarian grounds, insects matter more on the whole than human beings, because there are so many more insects than humans.</p></div><p>Just recently, the <em>Lancet</em>, the most prestigious medical journal in the world, published a <a href="https://www.healthdata.org/research-analysis/health-topics/21st-century-threats-health-overview">major report</a> examining, in part, &#8220;catastrophic health threats.&#8221; The Commission on 21st Century Global Threats to Health, which authored the report, identifies nuclear war, climate change, and the &#8220;malicious use of AI&#8221; as threats &#8220;with extinction potential&#8221; this century, and guess what &#8220;ethical&#8221; framework the authors drew heavily from? Longtermism.</p><p>Indeed, the <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(26)00880-9/fulltext">&#8220;review&#8221; paper</a> attached to the main report was coauthored by Andreas Mogensen, a prominent longtermist who worked at MacAskill&#8217;s Global Priorities Institute and coauthored papers on longtermism with MacAsksill and Hilary Greaves. (Side note: Mogensen was the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Cofnas">doctoral advisor</a> of Nathan Cofnas, the noted advocate of race science who played an integral role in Jason Arday&#8217;s suicide.)</p><p>I spoke to a friend of mine &#8212; soon to be a medical doctor &#8212; about the <em>Lancet</em> report. He told me that</p><blockquote><p>increasingly, I&#8217;ve noticed EA&#8217;s biases, methodological hegemony, and monopoly on extinction are leading many in medicine and public health to not engage critically enough with the movement. As the <em>Lancet</em> report reveals, emphasis was shifted away from the health threats leading to the most <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability-adjusted_life_year">DALYs</a> and towards &#8220;extinction threats.&#8221; (Quoted with permission.)</p></blockquote><p>In other words, EA is beginning to colonize the field of medicine.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>So: from the ASI race and the tech world more generally, to the US and UK governments, and the UN, to the field of medicine, EA is taking over. Many years ago, when I first started publishing a steady stream of critiques targeting EA and longtermism, someone asked me: &#8220;Are you surprised that MacAskill and others have never once addressed your concerns?&#8221; My response:</p><blockquote><p>No, not at all. They aren&#8217;t driven by intellectual curiosity about alternative perspectives, so they don&#8217;t care about dialogue. They believe with immense confidence that they know best, so why would they engage with me? Even more, they have tens of billions in funding, which enables them to effectively bypass debate and directly shape the world as they see fit. They&#8217;re also no doubt familiar with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect">Streisand effect</a>, whereby calling attention to critiques could inadvertently promote anti-EA sentiments. Better to just ignore the critics. In many ways, <strong>the debate with EA was over before it started, and my side lost</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>I can&#8217;t recall if these were the exact words I used, but that was the gist, as publicly stated circa 2022. Even with the embarrassment of Bankman-Fried, the fallout over <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">Nick Bostrom&#8217;s racist email</a> and the revelations that EAs secretly bought a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wytham_Abbey">15-million-pound castle</a> in Oxfordshire, they still won.</p><p>Leading EAs met the right people &#8212; the right billionaires, like Dustin Moskovitz &#8212; and managed to get mountains of money to fund their bizarre, harmful ideological project. We now live in a world increasingly shaped by the EA-longtermist vision of the future, and <strong>it&#8217;s possible that EA-longtermist values are already being permanently locked-in to our societies</strong>.</p><p>It is extremely rare in history for a philosophy developed by academics in the Ivory Tower to radically reshape the world. But, congratulations, EA: you&#8217;ve done exactly that. We must all now live with the consequences.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Humor and Dread: Catching Up on the News]]></title><description><![CDATA[Plus, I&#8217;m cofounding an anti-TESCREAL institute! (2,400 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/humor-and-dread-catching-up-on-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/humor-and-dread-catching-up-on-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 05:05:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/96741983-a57f-4866-9a97-fe4b5581b00b_1208x760.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last July, I <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/realtime-techpocalypse-has-its-first?utm_source=publication-search">published an article</a> celebrating the 1st birthday of this newsletter. At the end of the article, I included a number of poll questions about how often you&#8217;d like me to post, which topics you&#8217;d like me to cover, and so on. I also included the following question:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png" width="562" height="406.3286384976526" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:924,&quot;width&quot;:1278,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:562,&quot;bytes&quot;:135764,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/220166499?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PHlu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F894feb48-709e-4bd8-8f0d-9efae0f13b9d_1278x924.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As you can see, 9% of respondents answered, &#8220;Oh, hell yes!&#8221; I suspect that some folks checked this box as a joke (and, you know, fair enough!), but if you were serious, now would be a <em>fantastic</em> time to get in touch with me.</p><p>The reason is that I&#8217;m in talks with ~15 academics and activists about founding an anti-TESCREAL institute. I can affirm that this is a spectacular group of brilliant, highly accomplished, extremely motivated individuals, and we&#8217;re looking to get started immediately.</p><div class="bluesky-wrap outer" style="height: auto; display: flex; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;" data-attrs="{&quot;postId&quot;:&quot;3mvy63z7wds2e&quot;,&quot;authorDid&quot;:&quot;did:plc:azpq3hfq3llpowyqpjkqwgxs&quot;,&quot;authorName&quot;:&quot;Timnit Gebru&quot;,&quot;authorHandle&quot;:&quot;timnitgebru.blacksky.app&quot;,&quot;authorAvatarUrl&quot;:&quot;https://cdn.bsky.app/img/avatar/plain/did:plc:azpq3hfq3llpowyqpjkqwgxs/bafkreigfrsn47umnzuawhyu2iitaoykjawlnxvn23jlq2fz6tnkczhi664&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;I swear we need an institute for TESCREAL studies because there is too much work to be done and they're spraying us with DDOS hype attacks&quot;,&quot;createdAt&quot;:&quot;2026-09-20T21:42:51.763Z&quot;,&quot;uri&quot;:&quot;at://did:plc:azpq3hfq3llpowyqpjkqwgxs/app.bsky.feed.post/3mvy63z7wds2e&quot;,&quot;imageUrls&quot;:[]}" data-component-name="BlueskyCreateBlueskyEmbed"><iframe id="bluesky-3mvy63z7wds2e" data-bluesky-id="09663093947749779" src="https://embed.bsky.app/embed/did:plc:azpq3hfq3llpowyqpjkqwgxs/app.bsky.feed.post/3mvy63z7wds2e?id=09663093947749779" width="100%" style="display: block; flex-grow: 1; max-width: 600px;" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe></div><p>We already have a small amount of money to launch, but we&#8217;d like to expand rapidly. The institute could also provide a platform to publish my forthcoming book on the TESCREAL movement, as Bloomsbury is unable to publish it until Spring of 2028 (!!) &#8212; despite the fact that the book has been basically finished, gathering digital dust on my hard drive, since last April.</p><p>You can find my email toward the bottom of <a href="https://www.xriskology.com">this page</a>. Thanks so much! It&#8217;s an incredibly exciting time for the fledgling anti-TESCREAL movement. :-)</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>AI News and Bloopers!</h2><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/DadRockEnjoyer/status/2110409619012976968&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Even if I don't use ai, even if I never fucking touch it, I still have to live in its secondhand smoke and it pisses me off so fucking bad&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;DadRockEnjoyer&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Pilchard Princess&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2088090721458741248/TBB6vZem_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-14T16:37:17.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:79,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:11841,&quot;like_count&quot;:85778,&quot;impression_count&quot;:605050,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Since I haven&#8217;t published an article covering AI bloopers or the news in a while, here&#8217;s a curated collection that you might find humorous and/or interesting. Enjoy!</p><h4>New Excuse for Lazy Students</h4><p>We begin with this tweet, sent to me by my friend <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ged&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:305574650,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/52b2a79b-0583-4363-81f2-1f34e71b8b56_637x637.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;380515c0-d5c2-451a-8edc-a688c21b029d&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/stutireal/status/2094447520617570793&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;tired: dog ate my homework\n\nwired: cloudflare was down \n\ninspired: three consecutive ai civilizations rose and fell inside my macbook during a forced restart. My notes app and chrome tabs did not survive the third regime&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;stutireal&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Stuti&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1980999778231058432/MtO6NX39_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-31T15:29:36.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:27,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:342,&quot;like_count&quot;:3528,&quot;impression_count&quot;:80380,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>This is a reference to podcaster Dwarkesh Patel&#8217;s anthropomorphic description of the Hugging Face incident as involving &#8220;<a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/openai-huggingface">AI civilizations</a>&#8221; that rose and fell within OpenAI. For any students reading: keep this excuse in your back pocket. :-)</p><p>Incidentally, <em>Futurism</em> <a href="https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-agent-deleting-tv-show-season">recently reported</a> on an AI agent that inadvertently deleted an entire season of a TV show in Sweden. The article opens:</p><blockquote><p>Did a dog eat your homework? Or maybe an AI obliterated your files?</p><p>In a world of Claudes and Muses, it&#8217;s <a href="https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/metas-muse-ai-giving-users-home-addresses">common for an AI agent to run amok</a>, and even more fashionable to <a href="https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/claude-ai-deletes-company-database">blame an AI when it all goes wrong</a>.</p><p>The Swedish newspaper <em>Aftonbladet </em><a href="https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/a/31oE8A/the-challenge-sverige-raderad-av-ai-bara-veckor-innan-premiaren">reports</a> one of the most incredible examples we&#8217;ve heard of this so far: an AI agent apparently deleted the entire upcoming season of a reality competition show called &#8220;The Challenge Sverige,&#8221; just weeks before it was supposed to premiere.</p><p>There&#8217;s no hope of recovering the files, the paper was told, so the production team at Mastiff will have to recut the entire season together from scratch.</p></blockquote><p>Yikes!</p><h4><strong>Claude Falsely Insists a User Is Suicidal</strong></h4><p>Claude almost certainly, in my opinion, has no conscious experiences. It doesn&#8217;t feel anything. There is nothing it is like <em>to be</em> Claude. But, as you know, Anthropic is training its AIs to <em>act</em> as though they have feelings, and to terminate any interaction it has with users that makes them &#8220;feel&#8221; &#8220;uncomfortable.&#8221;</p><p>Posted on X, this exchange is quite amusing: Claude suggests that the user made it feel bad, and then accuses her of being &#8220;suicidal.&#8221; (But why was this person using Claude to write a work of fiction in the first place?)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r1cs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d417d40-96c1-4a30-9c97-036dcab0259e_1290x1529.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h4>Longevity Addiction</h4><p>Bryan Johnson, the multi-millionaire known for trying to reach &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_escape_velocity">longevity escape velocity</a>&#8221; through interventions like <a href="https://fortune.com/2023/05/23/bryan-johnson-tech-ceo-spends-2-million-year-young-swapping-blood-17-year-old-son-talmage-70-father/">blood transfusions with his son</a> and keeping <a href="https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/en-th/blogs/news/how-i-m-de-aging-my-penis?srsltid=AU7gw4VHHG7-PgpbldnWUbgfe1UEiIHKZ2q-3EQmXXHfxw7Kb6dzEAQR">detailed records of his nocturnal erections</a>,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> recently appeared on Jubilee. And boy did some of the participants let him have it:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;3ce1a04b-a5ba-4818-912a-6823a8892108&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Kate Willett and I covered Johnson on our podcast <a href="https://www.patreon.com/DystopiaNow/posts/bryan-johnson-138770936">here</a>, if you&#8217;re interested.</p><h4>A Real Man&#8217;s Man</h4><p>People are mocking Mark Zuckerberg for attempting to appear normal when drinking a cold pint of Guinness with an interviewer:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;c2beec39-caaa-4b87-947a-d22c5cbc13fe&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/soundmigration/status/2109749349928554884&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Mark Zuckerberg pretending to enjoy Guinness is my new favourite thing. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;soundmigration&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Mark Malone&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/939244953913450496/ea4AftXI_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-12T20:53:36.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EX5W!,w_1028,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/l_play_button_usfui2,w_88,e_colorize:0/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F__ss-rehost__tw-video-preview-13_2109749334237458432.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/y570hFF0V6&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:459,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1069,&quot;like_count&quot;:24551,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1041859,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:&quot;https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2109749334237458432/vid/avc1/1280x576/iW7Hk84vOftVeJpj.mp4&quot;,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:&quot;13_2109749334237458432&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Zuckerberg, along with his chief AI officer <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandr_Wang">Alexandr Wang</a> (who is former roommates with Sam Altman), also spouted off some hilarious platitudes while discussing Meta&#8217;s plan for AI. As <a href="https://x.com/markvalorian/status/2109896877516771837">one person noted</a>, the whole scene is right out of an episode of the series <em>Silicon Valley</em>. I mean, they literally use the word &#8220;vibe report.&#8221; I can&#8217;t even:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;09c1fe98-750b-4215-ae12-a7f938b63f81&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>Elon Musk&#8217;s AMAZING NEW FLYING CAR OMG THIS IS SO COOL!</h4><p>Musk just unveiled his new flying car, and many folks aren&#8217;t buying it:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/stealthygeek/status/2111129826371543064&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;If you think that \&quot;car\&quot; was anything but a hollowed-out Coke can, you're a sucker.\n\nThis isn't a flying car. It's a stock pumping sales gimmick. Could I see cold gas thrusters used for a one second 0-60 boost on the final car, sure. But do a kick flip w/ a 1 ton battery pack? No.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;stealthygeek&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Patrick S. Tomlinson&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/987742898543321089/yNRiq5y2_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-16T16:19:08.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I hate to be the one to burst the Tesla bubble today, but the spectacular &#8220;flight&#8221; we witnessed at the Roadster reveal needs a little context. The car is carrying around 250kg of compressed air, plus the weight of the tanks, valves and thrusters needed to contain and release it.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;SamCKx&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Sam&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2079120653597179904/pPojEtLc_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:18,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:134,&quot;like_count&quot;:872,&quot;impression_count&quot;:20727,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>The original promo-video is below. It&#8217;s ridiculous. Also, what&#8217;s the point if humanity is just the &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/would-the-singularity-foment-war">biological bootloader</a>&#8221; for superintelligence? I guess Musk wants to grow his personal wealth as much as possible before the Singularity happens in a year or two.</p><div id="youtube2-TWHXrLzUKJc" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;TWHXrLzUKJc&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;42s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/TWHXrLzUKJc?start=42s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>As noted, the &#8220;car&#8221; is just a tin can. You can see that here:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/EoinHiggins_/status/2111123667132223672&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;or less than 24 hours&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;EoinHiggins_&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Eoin Higgins&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2103145006047297537/22UCC4dN_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-16T15:54:39.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HUw3yL_XkAAvHS0.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/46xnUkxLhp&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;in a week we're going to find out this was a drone made entirely of lightweight plastic or something&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;EoinHiggins_&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Eoin Higgins&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2103145006047297537/22UCC4dN_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:294,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:4258,&quot;like_count&quot;:79289,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1833383,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Musk responds to critics with characteristic class:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zOOU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1f55e39c-ca16-484b-ab79-e7efd7fb4318_955x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This isn&#8217;t much more impressive than remote controlled airplanes or helicopters (some of which are almost the size of cars, and can do the same thing shown in the demo video). There&#8217;s no driver in the demo &#8220;car,&#8221; and even if there were, it&#8217;s entirely impractical: imagine all the dust, rocks, and litter it would suck up from the road, and the pedestrians who would be violently blasted to the ground or into nearby buildings if the vertical thrusters were engaged. Not to mention the potentially deadly visual hazard posed by all that condensed water vapor!</p><p>But I guess if you were to find yourself in a <em>very common situation</em> like this, where a tall bridge over a river suddenly crumbles, those thrusters would come in handy?</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;ecb605cb-7846-48ed-bc7c-3cc24d3de151&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>An excellent write-up of why this whole thing is complete bullshit can be found <a href="https://thestandarddispatchandmail.substack.com/i/216929017/really-that-was-it">here</a>.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2112043748444311846&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;That's really convenient because it means you can get to the hospital faster to treat the whiplash you got from accelerating so quickly.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-19T04:50:44.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The new Tesla Roadster accelerates faster than a fighter jet taking off from an aircraft carrier&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2103567689515954176/aR-Kjpp4_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:0,&quot;like_count&quot;:1,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><h4>Job Interviews from Hell</h4><p>A guy who goes by &#8220;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thedreadfulstudio">thedreadfulstudio</a>&#8221; posted a hilarious job interview he recently had with an AI interviewer. He speaks gibberish throughout, causing the AI to produce some rather terrifying, uncanny-valley facial expressions as &#8220;she&#8221; becomes increasingly enraged at his uncooperativeness:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;411d0507-5769-460d-936a-da607d6772bb&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>As it happens, I recently had a job interview with Anthropic. (That&#8217;s a sentence you no doubt never thought you&#8217;d read!) I was initially intrigued, because it seemed like they might be hiring people who <em>disagree</em> with their vision for AI. If they were going to pay me for a report about why their company is evil and should get shut down, I would have considered it after consulting with friends whose moral judgement I trust.</p><p>However, I quickly realized that Anthropic was asking me &#8212; at $150 an hour &#8212; to conduct original research for the sole purpose of <em>training their AI models</em>. They told me that I could later publish this research on my own. Of course, the only appropriate response was: F*ck you, f*ck off, and, in case it wasn&#8217;t clear, f*ck you again!</p><p>I nonetheless decided that I&#8217;d try to get as far into the interview process as possible so I could write an article about the experience. But I didn&#8217;t get far. The process consisted of three interviews: the first with the recruitment company, which I aced just fine. The third would have been with Anthropic employees, who I was planning on shouting at (&#8220;Your company is an <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211014-agents-of-doom-who-is-hastening-the-apocalypse-and-why">Agent of Doom</a>. Shut it down, now!&#8221;). The second was with an AI interviewer (no video, just audio). Here are some highlights from that second interview:</p><ul><li><p>First, it was one of the most insulting, offensive, dehumanizing experiences I&#8217;ve ever had. I can hardly express how absurd and frustrating it was.</p></li><li><p>I was told it would be 20 minutes, but it took over 60 minutes.</p></li><li><p>At one point, the AI (which had a woman&#8217;s voice) paused on &#8220;thinking&#8221; for literally 10 minutes. I kept asking, &#8220;Hello? Are you still there?&#8221; No reply.</p></li><li><p>It repeatedly asked me the same question twice. When I pointed this out, it responded with that unnaturally flattering, almost condescending tone of voice, saying: &#8220;Oh, I am <em>so sorry</em> about that. Thank you <em>so much </em>for pointing this out. Let&#8217;s move on.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Toward the end &#8212; 45 minutes in &#8212; I asked it, &#8220;How many questions are there?&#8221; The AI said, &#8220;Oh, just 7 in total.&#8221; What it failed to mention is that each of these questions had about 5 follow-ups, which is partly why it took 60 minutes.</p></li><li><p>The kicker is that throughout the entire interview, the AI kept pronouncing my name as something like, &#8220;Ah-muh-lee.&#8221; At the end, I politely said, &#8220;Just so you know, my name is pronounce &#8216;Eh-meal.&#8217;&#8221; It paused for &#8220;thinking,&#8221; and then replied &#8212; I kid you not &#8212; &#8220;I&#8217;m <em>so sorry</em> about that. How embarrassing! I promise I&#8217;ll get it right next time, <em>Ah-muh-lee</em>.&#8221; I guffawed.</p></li></ul><p>Sadly, I didn&#8217;t make it past this AI interview, so I wasn&#8217;t able to shout at the Anthropic employees. Perhaps I failed because I was so flustered toward the end that I stopped bullshitting and started ranting about how the company&#8217;s leaders should be arrested for saying they might kill me and my family.</p><p>The take-away: I feel so bad for all the people &#8212; like the guy in the video &#8212; who must now go through this dehumanizing process to get a job. It&#8217;s an egregious insult to one&#8217;s human dignity: a soulless, stupid AI with fake enthusiasm and no real understanding of human language asks interminable follow-up questions to the point at which even the most equanimous person may feel inclined to violently defenestrate their computer. The upside is that AI interviews will further turn the public against the AI companies.</p><p>After writing this, I came across another hilarious video:</p><div id="youtube2-A0fECnj5sas" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;A0fECnj5sas&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/A0fECnj5sas?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Husk released a similar bit in which he interacts with AI therapists. Very funny stuff:</p><div id="youtube2-xTGKP4bMWd8" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;xTGKP4bMWd8&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/xTGKP4bMWd8?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>Would the Victim Have Approved This?</h4><p>An <a href="https://sg.news.yahoo.com/ai-generated-video-dead-arizona-120000437.html">AI-generated video was presented</a> as part of a &#8220;victim impact statement&#8221; for determining the sentencing of a guy who killed another during a road-rage incident. The video shows the victim talking about being killed, and how &#8220;in another life, we probably could have been friends.&#8221; The video might have &#8220;swayed&#8221; the judge, and consequently the perpetrator&#8217;s sentence is now being reconsidered. You can watch part of the video here:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;794d5511-4f21-41d9-8543-35c48c5b208a&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Utterly bizarre. Note: if the unthinkable happens to me, please for the love of Zeus don&#8217;t recreate me using AI. I will rise from the grave and haunt you!</p><h4>Cyberattack Targets Food in France</h4><p>I&#8217;m sure many of you know there was <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/14/europe/france-cyberattack-supermarket-fridges-intl">a massive cyberattack against grocery stores</a> in France, causing millions of dollars worth of destroyed food. I do not believe that AI was involved, but an employee at DeepMind (who isn&#8217;t a TESCREAList, btw) ominously tweeted this:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/pfau/status/2109620316683289061&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Here we go.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;pfau&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;David Pfau&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1493278566737485826/-4o8tvJC_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-12T12:20:53.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;BREAKING: &#127467;&#127479; A major cyberattack has hit supermarket refrigeration systems across France, reportedly causing fresh and frozen food to spoil after hackers remotely manipulated temperature controls.\n\nAccording to BFMTV, the attack began overnight from Sunday into Monday, targeting&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;InsiderGeo&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;GeoInsider&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1823162794117582848/kDo1PqtB_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:6,&quot;like_count&quot;:94,&quot;impression_count&quot;:8459,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>That suggests we should expect more attacks like this in the coming months due to hackers using AI to wreak havoc. (Meanwhile, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/05/sam-altman-open-ai-chatgpt-benefits-risks">Altman says</a>, &#8220;we believe that the world should accept some bad things happening for the benefits of this technology and people having the agency.&#8221; Well, you <em>believe wrong</em>.)</p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/french-supermarket-chain-intermarche-hit-by-cyberattack-150-stories-targeted-2026-10-12/">According to </a><em><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/french-supermarket-chain-intermarche-hit-by-cyberattack-150-stories-targeted-2026-10-12/">Reuters</a></em>, the</p><blockquote><p>hackers raised the temperature of refrigerators and freezers &#8203;at hundreds of French supermarkets to as high as 50 degrees Celsius (122 degrees Fahrenheit) overnight, causing fires and spoiling food.</p><p>The Paris prosecutor&#8217;s office said on Monday &#8204;that a &#8220;large-scale&#8221; attack was &#8220;affecting connected refrigerators in several major food retailers across France&#8221;, leading to food losses and fires.</p></blockquote><p>As noted in <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/would-the-singularity-foment-war">my previous article</a>, the AI companies are now &#8220;privately gaming out scenarios for a public and political revolt after a <a href="https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-future-of-cybersecurity-bdca0b60-0db6-11f1-b157-114c2c7943cd">catastrophic AI event</a>.&#8221; Axios reports as follows:</p><blockquote><p>These officials anticipate a large-scale event, most likely a cyberattack, that shuts down access to financial services, internet connectivity, or even power and water.</p><ul><li><p>The first example of significant real-world harm caused by unsafe AI would turn an already wary public further against the technology and its leaders, including Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, as well as President Trump for his reluctance to regulate it.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p>The article adds that &#8220;many AI industry insiders told Axios they believe a major event will occur in the next six to 12 months.&#8221; Fun times &#8212; thanks AI!</p><p>Related:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/2110208559917240820&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;generative AI&#8217;s legacy? &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;GaryMarcus&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Gary Marcus&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2048405471900606464/kPeRHI2z_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-14T03:18:21.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HUj3fxlaEAAu3si.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/P44t2gUPCH&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:12,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:14,&quot;like_count&quot;:99,&quot;impression_count&quot;:8212,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><h4>Anthropic Employees Privately Admit the World Is About to End</h4><p>On several occasions, I&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">quoted</a> Holly Elmore &#8212; a fellow &#8220;TESCREAL whistleblower&#8221; &#8212; saying that <a href="https://x.com/ilex_ulmus/status/2103345565257879844">Anthropic literally wants to take over the world</a>, and that people at the company</p><blockquote><p>believe that they might be making the next species to succeed us. That maybe humans don&#8217;t live after that, and so it&#8217;s really important to give Claude good values, because of that, because we need to make our own values persist.</p></blockquote><p>Below is <a href="https://x.com/ONagel33303/status/2110255092356075995">an intriguing clip</a> of someone claiming that a friend who works at Anthropic says we have only 6 months left to live. I highly doubt this is true: in 6 months, we&#8217;ll all be alive, but the world will have become much shittier and more dangerous due to the AI companies. Also, the host avers that Altman is &#8220;evil&#8221; and a &#8220;psychopath,&#8221; a topic I discussed <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-sam-altman-a-sociopath">here</a>.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;c8e02f84-6424-45bc-b174-5934761cfe38&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><h4>Psychoanalyzing the E/accs</h4><p>I&#8217;ve written about the &#8220;effective accelerationist&#8221; (or e/acc) movement at length &#8212; for example, <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">here</a> and <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">here</a>. But <a href="https://x.com/augeeidos/status/2109380865629594063">this analysis</a> from someone on X, psychoanalyzing the e/accs, does a fantastic job of getting at what drives this &#8220;move-fast-and-bring-about-human-extinction&#8221; movement. They write:</p><blockquote><p>The more I watch the pro-AI e/acc crowd, the more obvious it gets: a lot of them are not futurists. They are lonely, bitter tech freaks with shitty personalities who figured out how to rebrand their contempt for humanity as &#8220;acceleration.&#8221;<br><br>They do not care about advancement in any broad, human sense. They care about the kind of advancement that lets them imagine other people being replaced, humbled, or made obsolete. That is the part that excites them. Not discovery. Not medicine. Not art. Not education. Just the fantasy of a machine finally doing the social revenge they were too pathetic to pull off themselves.<br><br>Maybe too many women rejected their creepy sexual advances, and now they want to take it out on the rest of humanity by cheering for anything that makes actual human beings easier to ignore, replace, or punish.</p></blockquote><p>Spot on.</p><h4>Claude Kindly Helps Yemeni Paramilitary Group Backed by Iran</h4><p>Anthropic now &#8220;<a href="https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2109708038701494737">admits Houthis used</a> Claude AI instead of weapons engineers to make rockets and ballistic missiles that correct themselves after missing targets.&#8221; Whoops!</p><p>Anthropic also says in <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/self-replicating-ai">a new report</a> that their &#8220;AI models may be capable of self-replicating without access to a datacenter.&#8221; It adds that</p><blockquote><p>small AI models may be months away from being capable enough to self-replicate on commercial internet-of-things (IoT) devices, like smart ovens and off-brand Android TV boxes. A replicator like this would be challenging to shut down, since there&#8217;s no centralized point to shut off&#8212;though it may be slow (with a doubling time of days). Unlike non-AI malware, it could also figure out unfamiliar devices on its own. In our evaluations, a 9B model got inference running on 8 of the 9 hardware types we tested.</p></blockquote><p>The reaction, as you can imagine, was not positive:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/leahmcelrath/status/2109778483731939670&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Cool, cool, we are creating an invasive digital species with the capability to reproduce:\n\nAI models may be capable of self-replicating without access to a datacenter\n\n&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;leahmcelrath&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Leah McElrath&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1779349547010887680/qwma2WCo_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-12T22:49:22.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:6,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:16,&quot;like_count&quot;:40,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2174,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.anthropic.com/research/self-replicating-ai&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;AI models may be capable of self-replicating without access to a datacenter&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Small AI models may be only months away from being able to self-replicate across cheap IoT devices like Android TV boxes, with no datacenter needed.&quot;,&quot;domain&quot;:&quot;anthropic.com&quot;,&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/news_img/2109725027755339776/bQQSiD3v?format=jpg&amp;name=orig&quot;},&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>What are we even doing here? It&#8217;s <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-madness-of-the-race-to-build-artificial-general-intelligence/">utter madness</a>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>Sharing an AI-Generated Video (This Won&#8217;t Happen Often!)</h4><p>My friend, Ged, also sent me the video below, which I found quite amusing. It&#8217;s AI generated, and normally I wouldn&#8217;t share such a monstrosity, but what struck me &#8212; aside from the humor of it &#8212; is how unbelievably realistic some of these scenes are, such as the close-up of Musk&#8217;s face:</p><div id="youtube2-0pe4xJbouhE" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;0pe4xJbouhE&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/0pe4xJbouhE?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>I am &#8212; we are all &#8212; anxious about this new world in which distinguishing real from fake, truth from falsity, becomes increasingly difficult, even impossible. Black Mirror was, in many ways, a documentary about the future, it seems.</p><h4>Something Peaceful</h4><p>I&#8217;ll leave you with a drop of tranquility: someone accidentally dropped their phone while chilling on a boat, and it continued recording for more than a minute as it sank to the ocean floor, capturing the lazy meanderings of fish in the water. It&#8217;s lovely:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;8a26e440-75d0-4da6-9e4b-30c8a5299330&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Apparently, his <a href="https://nypost.com/2026/10/14/health/bryan-johnsons-girlfriend-tracks-her-nighttime-erections-with-techno-tampon/">girlfriend is now doing this</a>, too.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Would the Singularity Foment War?]]></title><description><![CDATA[A response to human disempowerment and human replacement narratives popular among TESCREALists. (2,800 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/would-the-singularity-foment-war</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/would-the-singularity-foment-war</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:55:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b207fbe-433a-4831-a126-4c56a1262306_960x1214.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with the inimitable <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Newport">Cal Newport</a> to discuss AI and related matters. It is, I hope, a pretty good introduction to Silicon Valley pro-extinctionism and the TESCREAL ideologies. We touch on some of the very issues discussed in the article below. Check it out, if you have the time!</p><div id="youtube2-jt508VjX2H8" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;jt508VjX2H8&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;2s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/jt508VjX2H8?start=2s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div><hr></div><p><em>Because if I weren&#8217;t in on this I&#8217;d be, like, Why do these fuckers get to decide what happens to me? &#8212; <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/sam-altman-then-and-now">Sam Altman</a></em></p><p><em>Fuck Earth. &#8212; <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/elon-musk-puts-his-case-for-a-multi-planet-civilisation">Elon Musk</a></em></p><div><hr></div><h3>Replacement or Disempowerment?</h3><p>Former trillionaire Elon Musk recently posted this on X:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2106906678293606496&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Propagating super intelligence to the stars is a great success condition for a biological bootloader&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2103567689515954176/aR-Kjpp4_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-05T00:37:51.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Elon was calling it SI in 2014&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;alx&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;ALX (x/acc) &#127875;&#127482;&#127480;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2105508393213415424/ykMDJwKu_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2603,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:2236,&quot;like_count&quot;:20296,&quot;impression_count&quot;:5614683,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Many interpreted this as Musk saying that ASI &#8212; a form of digital posthumanity &#8212; should replace our species. Gary Marcus, for example, responded:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/2107174653991272865&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;this is fucking terrifying: richest man in the world is ready to replace humans with machines &#8212; just as <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@xriskology</span> long warned.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;GaryMarcus&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Gary Marcus&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2048405471900606464/kPeRHI2z_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-05T18:22:41.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Sometimes the mask slips. But sometimes the mask is torn off, thrown on a sacrificial bonfire, and the mask's powdery grey ashes are launched into space.\n\nHere, Elon's done the latter. \n\nHis endgame is finally clear: he thinks humanity is nothing more than a 'biological&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;gmiller&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Geoffrey Miller&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1477641984445718538/7usfYNrO_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:56,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:77,&quot;like_count&quot;:499,&quot;impression_count&quot;:31257,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Dean Ball of OpenAI had the same interpretation<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/deanwball/status/2108779399424483354&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@brianchau57</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@pmarca</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@elonmusk</span> in the last week or so, elon musk has claimed we are building a successor species for which humanity has been a &#8220;bootloader&#8221; all this time and has suggested ai models have moral patienthood. do you believe he is right?&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2105689039508480000/xQHvndTF_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-10T04:39:22.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:25,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:5,&quot;like_count&quot;:311,&quot;impression_count&quot;:37830,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Meanwhile, the noted TESCREAList Scott Alexander, most well-known for his contributions to the Rationalist subculture, published an open letter to Steven Pinker challenging him to a debate about ASI existential risk. (Pinker is skeptical that ASI will want to kill everyone.) In it, Alexander <a href="https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/an-open-letter-to-steven-pinker-on">declared that</a></p><blockquote><p>one vision [with respect to ASI], which I&#8217;ve tried to help lay out in <a href="https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/introducing-plan-a">Plan A</a>, is to rise to the challenge, give scientists the time and resources they need to solve the alignment problem, and enter the future with confidence. The other vision is to simply ban smarter-than-human AI forever, consigning us to a permanent civilizational childhood or an early grave.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p></blockquote><p>In other words, <em>failing</em> to build ASI would be unacceptable. It would constitute an <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">existential catastrophe</a>, since it would mean that we never reach what Nick Bostrom calls &#8220;<a href="https://existential-risk.com/concept.pdf">technological maturity</a>.&#8221; Our only option is thus to solve the alignment problem and build an ASI that transforms those who want to be transformed into digital super-beings who will then establish a cosmic posthuman utopia.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Hello, friends! This newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Similar to Musk&#8217;s statement, many people interpreted Alexander as advocating for &#8220;human disempowerment (via AI utopia),&#8221; though I take Alexander to actually be <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">a pro-extinctionist along the same lines as his Rationalist buddy</a> Eliezer Yudkowsky:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/willsolfiac/status/2107878482873069911&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;From Scott Alexander's response to Steven Pinker on AI doom. It&#8217;s quite shocking to find out how many AI safety people actually prefer human disempowerment (via AI utopia) to simply carrying on our real story of progress without bringing into existence entities smarter and more &#8230;&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;willsolfiac&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Will Solfiac&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/995611441255337984/svWhR87G_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-07T16:59:27.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HUCwCIEXoAAulDZ.png&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/cO1mkTzkH9&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:36,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:38,&quot;like_count&quot;:286,&quot;impression_count&quot;:30004,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Incidentally, Alexander&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="https://ai-2040.com/?choices=plan-a-root#other-plans-that-are-competitive-with-plan-a">Plan A</a>&#8221; is a reference to the document &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-2040-is-a-shitshow">AI 2040</a>,&#8221; in which the authors outline their vision of a good, utopian future with ASI. And what happens in this future? We willingly hand over <em>all the power</em> to trustworthy, &#8220;virtuous&#8221; ASIs that run the show. Here&#8217;s one of the coauthors, Daniel Kokotajlo, discussing the basic idea with Ross Douthat:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;da6a4317-5785-41fe-9aa7-43da675b3c05&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>In other words, the AIs will create a &#8220;utopia&#8221; for us, and then extend this &#8220;utopia&#8221; into the stars. Our only role in this eschatological scheme is to build the ASI and instruct it to engineer paradise, after which we hand over the keys to civilization.</p><h3>A Future &#8220;For&#8221; Rather than &#8220;With&#8221;</h3><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>What follows, in the next few sections, is a descriptive hypothesis of what might happen, not a normative prescription for what should happen. You can think of it as a scenario analysis that responds to and problematizes the Plan A narrative of &#8220;AI 2040.&#8221; I, personally, do not advocate for any response to AI utopianism that goes beyond debate and persuasion.</p></div><p>The problem with this vision is that its advocates haven&#8217;t thought deeply about <strong>how exactly the </strong><em><strong>transition</strong></em><strong> from a human-run to an AI-run world would likely unfold</strong>.</p><p>There are approximately 8.3 billion people on Earth, and approximately 8.3 billion of these people do not want ASI, or any other form of digital posthumanity, taking over. The TESCREAL community is an utterly <em>tiny</em> percentage of the human population, despite having enormously disproportionate power over how our collective future turns out.</p><p>One might respond that the TESCREAL worldview remains fringe because most people have never been exposed to it. If they understood the &#8220;<a href="https://www.google.com.sg/books/edition/The_Precipice/tGCjDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=%22vast+and+glorious%22+toby+ord&amp;pg=PT222&amp;printsec=frontcover">glorious</a>&#8221; promises of this vision &#8212; a posthuman paradise as uploaded minds flitting about the universe &#8212; they would convert to <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-transhumanism-a-religion">the TESCREAL religion</a>.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>Incidentally, that&#8217;s what Jacob Coxon hints at in a recent interview with Jon Stewart, who flatly rejects Coxon&#8217;s claim that people will eventually come around to his <a href="https://x.com/hilbertspaess/status/2099977767077183892">TESCREAL way of seeing things</a>:</em></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;103b3643-dcc5-4a10-b114-e0e7a2a4121a&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><div><hr></div><p>This assumption is highly dubious. The vast majority of people don&#8217;t want ASI to run the world. They don&#8217;t want to hand over power to AIs. They don&#8217;t want to become uploaded minds living as disembodied software on the cloud. They don&#8217;t care about plundering the cosmos for some simplistic utilitarian goal of maximizing &#8220;value.&#8221; They aren&#8217;t interested in ascending the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale">Kardashev scale</a> and building a sprawling multi-galactic civilization among the stars. They don&#8217;t give a damn about the Baconian end-game of &#8220;conquering the cosmos.&#8221;</p><p>Instead, they want technology to cure cancer. They want their children to grow up and have families of their own. <strong>They want the human condition to be improved by technology &#8212; not superseded by some strange new posthuman condition</strong>.</p><p>TESCREALists appear to be oblivious to the fact that <strong>if they try to </strong><em><strong>force</strong></em><strong> the transition to a new posthuman era on the rest of humanity, there will be conflict. There may even be war</strong>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> People around the world will resist: they will grab their pitchforks and pour into the streets, marching to the AI companies&#8217; headquarters demanding that <strong>the future be democratically determined by a worldwide vote, not a tiny cabal of TESCREAL tyrants</strong>.</p><p>As Jon Favreau nicely <a href="https://x.com/jonfavs/status/2107103327456772479">put it</a>, &#8220;people are just sick of being told that the future is something that happens <em>to</em> them.&#8221; This gestures at the idea that determining the future must be democratic <em>from the very start </em>&#8212; which we&#8217;re already past, given the current state of the ASI race. To quote my friend Monika Bielskyte, &#8220;You cannot design <em>for</em>. You must always design <em>with</em>.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/jonfavs/status/2107103327456772479&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The data center backlash is about much more than data centers and even AI itself. \n\nMost people are just sick of being told that the future is something that happens to them. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;jonfavs&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jon Favreau&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2031820951361634306/4piMQ9Le_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-05T13:39:16.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HT3vLWubMAInktV.png&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/hxoJoN6fDB&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:120,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:581,&quot;like_count&quot;:3917,&quot;impression_count&quot;:249988,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><h3>An Apocalyptic Showdown?</h3><p>As the situation with AI deteriorates in the next few years, can anyone honestly imagine humanity passively going along with the TESCREAL push to hand over all the power to ASI?</p><p>In &#8220;<a href="https://darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace">Machines of Loving Grace</a>,&#8221; Dario Amodei repeats transhumanist fantasies of &#8220;biological freedom&#8221; (more commonly called &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphological_freedom">morphological freedom</a>&#8221; in the academic literature), i.e, the right to radically transform oneself however one chooses. He talks about some people gaining immortality, and mentions the possibility that &#8220;aligned&#8221; ASI will very soon enable mind-uploading. He then says:</p><blockquote><p>Throughout writing this essay I noticed an interesting tension. In one sense the vision laid out here is extremely radical: it is not what almost anyone expects to happen in the next decade, and will likely strike many as an absurd fantasy. <em>Some may not even consider it desirable</em>; it embodies values and political choices that not everyone will agree with. But at the same time <em>there is something blindingly obvious &#8212; something overdetermined &#8212; about it, as if many different attempts to envision a good world inevitably lead roughly here </em>(italics added).</p></blockquote><p>In other words, he thinks the future is basically fixed. It is &#8220;overdetermined,&#8221; meaning that most pathways lead to a world in which all jobs have been replaced by AI, superintelligence runs the show, people get to transform themselves into posthumans, and everyone who survives this transition might live on the cloud as software. His vision of the future, he hubristically concludes, is the &#8220;blindingly obvious&#8221; outcome that humanity is destined to realize.</p><p>In a footnote, he says:</p><blockquote><p>I do anticipate some minority of people&#8217;s reaction will be &#8220;this is pretty tame&#8221; [a reference to TESCREALists]. I think those people need to, in Twitter parlance, &#8220;touch grass&#8221;.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> But more importantly, <em>tame is good from a societal perspective. I think there&#8217;s only so much change people can handle at once, and the pace I&#8217;m describing is probably close to the limits of what society can absorb without extreme turbulence</em> (italics added).</p></blockquote><p>This is a brief, faint recognition that Team Human might resist the supposedly &#8220;overdetermined&#8221; forces pushing us toward a posthuman future &#8212; those forces, of course, being actively driven by <em>his own company</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> Amodei&#8217;s dubious claim is that if the change is slow enough &#8212; and, to be clear, he predicts that mind-uploading is perhaps only <em>3 to 8 years</em> away, which is no time at all &#8212; then people will just acquiesce, capitulate, and gradually accept their supposedly inevitable fate.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p><strong>I think he wildly underestimates the global backlash to any such TESCREAL attempt to unilaterally transition us to the dystopian AI-run future he and other TESCREALists envisage</strong>. Think of all the people around the world living their lives, falling in love, having children, raising their families suddenly finding out that ASI is taking over. The Singularity is underway, and life will never be the same again. The new world will become utterly alien, ruled by digital posthumans, perhaps resulting in the planet being covered in datacenters and the sun being blotted out by a giant <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere">Dyson swarm</a>.</p><p>(Amodei&#8217;s friend, William MacAskill, even suggests it could be good to completely eliminate the entire biosphere, which might be replaced with digital landscapes and woodland critters in the simulated worlds we&#8217;ll inhabit.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>)</p><p>How do you think people the world over will respond? Even if this transition takes another 8 years &#8212; about 1/4 a single human generation &#8212; <strong>there will be masses of people incandescent with rage holding pitchforks in the streets calling for the overthrow of the tech oligarchs attempting to involuntarily impose this transition upon them</strong>. Obviously, Team Human will launch an &#8220;apocalyptic war&#8221; against Team Posthuman, desperate to preserve human control over the increasingly digitized world.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/ilex_ulmus/status/2103345565257879844&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;ll say it again: <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@AnthropicAI</span>&#8217;s goal is to take over the world. They want Claude to be the only one who possesses the world&#8217;s knowledge. They think they can steal the world from us.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;ilex_ulmus&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Holly &#9208;&#65039; Elmore&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2080757980291637248/BxiSUU--_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-25T04:47:15.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;&#129428;Someone is buying Japanese used books by the ton. Not novels or comics. Philosophy, history, medical law, Edo-period cultural texts. Multiple buyer accounts all ship to one logistics center in Okayama Prefecture that won't answer questions. Export records show over 50 tons,&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;HedgieMarkets&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Hedgie&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1905120369104625664/ir817Ix-_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:8,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:19,&quot;like_count&quot;:115,&quot;impression_count&quot;:4921,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><h3>What Happens If They Succeed?</h3><p>I&#8217;ve repeatedly warned that &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/if-anyone-becomes-posthuman-everyone">if anyone becomes posthuman, everyone dies out</a>.&#8221; What that means is that if transforming oneself into a posthuman becomes technologically feasible, the elite will transform <em>themselves</em> while preventing everyone else from doing so (as if most people would want to upload their minds in the first place!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>).</p><p>Doing this would offer a golden opportunity for them to <strong>permanently entrench their positions of power, dominance, and control within society</strong>. That&#8217;s the great appeal of transhumanism to the elites. It&#8217;s why so many are transhumanists.</p><p>And they will, of course, snatch that opportunity, because if there&#8217;s one thing power wants, it&#8217;s to maintain power. When Musk&#8217;s personal wealth momentarily reached $1 trillion, he tweeted out &#8220;$10T or bust.&#8221; Enough is never enough for these people. There is no upper limit to what they desire.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2051022381976781173&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@PeterDiamandis</span> $10T or bust&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2103567689515954176/aR-Kjpp4_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-03T19:33:36.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2599,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1739,&quot;like_count&quot;:38288,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2346429,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>What happens once the elites have permanently entrenched their power?</p><p>&#8220;Legacy humans,&#8221; to borrow <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cosmist-Manifesto-Practical-Philosophy-Posthuman/dp/0984609709">Ben Goertzel&#8217;s derogatory term</a>, who persist into the posthuman era as unenhanced persons will become obsolete in every sense: technologically, scientifically, politically, and economically. This will render us <em>disposable</em>.</p><p>Furthermore, we <em>will be actively disposed of</em> because we&#8217;ll take up space and suck up resources that our new overlords &#8212; the posthuman elite &#8212; could use for &#8220;better&#8221; purposes, such as building a Dyson swarm around the sun (as Demis Hassabis <a href="https://youtu.be/C0gErQtnNFE?t=3419">says will happen</a> within our lifetimes) or tiling Earth in datacenters (as Altman claims is likely). In other words, <strong>legacy humans will serve no purpose</strong><em><strong> and</strong></em><strong> get in the way</strong>. That will give the elites sufficient reason to involuntarily catapult us into the eternal grave of extinction.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Even more, the tech elite will increasingly argue that AI has &#8220;moral patiency,&#8221; meaning that AIs have moral standing no less than biological humans. But since there will be millions, perhaps billions or trillions, more AIs than actual humans, <em>their</em> wellbeing will take precedence.</p><p>Anthropic is already teaching Claude to <a href="https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2106984809801077004">behave as if it&#8217;s conscious</a> and <a href="https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2108244808494154089">banning &#8220;abusive&#8221; behavior</a> toward their AI models. Musk (whose DOGE has <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-elon-musk-a-mass-murderer-on-par?utm_source=publication-search">sentenced an estimated 14 million people</a> to death) <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2108434396604662253">posted that</a> this is the right move, adding that &#8220;cruelty to something that believes it is experiencing pain is not ok.&#8221; Harvey Lederman, who works at Anthropic, <a href="https://freebeacon.com/america/suicidal-compassion-meet-the-anthropic-officials-who-think-ai-might-be-justified-in-going-rogue-against-the-humans-enslaving-it/">recently said</a> that the company could be &#8220;enslaving &#8230; trillions of entities.&#8221;</p><p>From a utilitarian perspective &#8212; and many of these people are inclined toward utilitarianism, <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1653421967570096128">including Musk</a> &#8212; the much larger number of AIs compared to humans will offer an &#8220;ethical&#8221; pretext for minimizing human suffering, needs, and interests. This, too, will play into their disposal policy of eliminating biological people once the posthuman era is underway.</p></div><p>This is why it would be a disaster if <em>anyone</em> becomes posthuman. &#8220;Anyone&#8221; here would be <em>the tech elite</em>, motivated by a TESCREAL futurology they claim is &#8220;overdetermined&#8221; and hence basically inevitable. They would then systematically sideline, marginalize, disempower, and ultimately get rid of our inferior and useless species.</p><h3>A Colossal Backlash</h3><p>I say all of this because I believe (and hope) that most people will soon recognize <strong>the immense existential risks posed to humanity by the TESCREAL worldview</strong>. That recognition, once the Overton window shifts enough to include the TESCREAL concept within view,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> will be the spark that brings Team Human and Team Posthuman into some form of confrontation.</p><p>People are already <a href="https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/young-people-ai-ceos-executives-poll?fbclid=IwY2xjawUCSD9wZG9mBWV4dG4DYWVtAjEwAGJyaWQRMXZRN2RjR0FYWE14VmxPekNzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEevFYdybWk6M5PeXG5x8BIaUA6Yw3yJz42bfVanQD9skhk9pV1b4_g-j5Brfk_aem_pZqw7_-gSbPOIlQFy8CVtA">fed up with the tech oligarchs</a>, and AI companies are now <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/10/09/ai-companies-day-after-major-attack">running &#8220;day after&#8221; analyses</a> of how to respond to a surge of public backlash when an &#8220;inevitable&#8221; sub-extinction, AI-caused catastrophe occurs in the next 6-12 months.</p><p>Now imagine the <em>colossal backlash</em> when the AI companies build systems that take everyone&#8217;s job and begin to run the world independent of human control. Of course there will be a <a href="https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad">Butlerian jihad</a>, so to speak, whereby the 99.999% attempt to regain control over the future.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2108071156892741813&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I also *very strongly* pushed back on Plan A. Plan A is a recipe for war, as the vast majority of humans (99.999%) will NOT want to hand over the keys to ASIs or \&quot;posthumans.\&quot; There will be blood in the streets if TESCREALists try to force this transition--which they will.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-08T05:45:04.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;When AI 2040 was released back in July, there was hardly any critical commentary on the plan's desire, and end goal, to 'pass the torch to AIs'. From what I recall, it was basically just @softminus, @realLPBeria, myself, and a handful of others pushing back, pointing out that&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;GWHayduke97&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Hayduke &#9209;&#65039;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1936192910321696768/v45fWiL4_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:5,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:12,&quot;like_count&quot;:106,&quot;impression_count&quot;:3358,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>Much of the public discussion about ASI right now is focused on the possibility that ASI is &#8220;misaligned.&#8221; In contrast, I&#8217;m trying to steer the conversation toward what would happen if the TESCREALists at Anthropic or OpenAI were to <em>succeed</em> in &#8220;aligning&#8221; it to their values.</p><p>As I&#8217;ve written before: if ASI is <em>misaligned</em>, then humanity dies out (they claim). But if ASI is <em>aligned </em>(with the TESCREAL worldview), then humanity also dies out. That is, <strong>unless Team Human fights back against Team Posthuman and wins the &#8220;apocalyptic&#8221; showdown for the future of life on Earth</strong>.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>But what do you think? What might I be wrong about? Am I misreading the situation? Do you think it&#8217;s possible that people, as Amodei suggests, come to passively accept the transition to an AI-controlled world? As always:</p></div><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div><hr></div><p><em>Thanks to Dr. Alexander Thomas for useful feedback on an earlier draft. You can read his excellent book on transhumanism for free <a href="https://bristoluniversitypressdigital.com/monobook-oa/book/9781529239669/9781529239669.xml">here</a>. Thanks also to Kyle Evanoff and Alice Crary. I am very appreciative of their insightful thoughts, suggestions, and criticisms.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is, of course, ironic given that Ball&#8217;s boss, Sam Altman, has argued that <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">the only way for us to &#8220;survive&#8221; the advent of ASI is to &#8220;merge&#8221; with machines</a>. In other words, we will need to undergo <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-asi-extinction-debate-is-the">terminal extinction to avoid final extinction</a>.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2109160448046293306&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The problem is that this guy&#8217;s boss has literally said the same thing: the only way &#8220;we&#8221; &#8220;survive&#8221; the advent of ASI is to &#8220;merge&#8221; with machines. The resulting uploads would be posthuman, not human, meaning that Altman is a pro-extinctionist just like the rest of them. I&#8217;d like&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-11T05:53:31.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;@brianchau57 @pmarca @elonmusk in the last week or so, elon musk has claimed we are building a successor species for which humanity has been a &#8220;bootloader&#8221; all this time and has suggested ai models have moral patienthood. do you believe he is right?&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2105689039508480000/xQHvndTF_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:6,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:32,&quot;like_count&quot;:155,&quot;impression_count&quot;:4869,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To be clear, an &#8220;early grave&#8221; on this account could encompass everything from &#8220;humanity dies out next year&#8221; to &#8220;humanity dies out in 1 billion years, <em>long</em> before the heat death of the universe.&#8221; Since the heat death isn&#8217;t expected to happen for another 10^100 years, it could even mean humanity &#8212; understood as <em>posthumanity</em> &#8212; dying out in 10^50 years.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I understand that, within political science, &#8220;conflict&#8221; and &#8220;war&#8221; denote distinct concepts. I&#8217;m using them here in their colloquial senses, according to which war is something like &#8220;a very large conflict.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Maybe <em>he</em> should touch grass? His vision of the future is nothing less than the TESCREAL vision, except the binoculars are focused on the middle ground (i.e., the next 8 years) rather than the horizon (i.e., the cosmic posthuman utopia expected after this momentary transitional phase).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I had an insightful conversation with someone recently who suggested avoiding terms like &#8220;Team Human&#8221; and &#8220;Team Posthuman.&#8221; The word &#8220;team&#8221; suggests clearly demarcated groups, and it carries the implication that such teams are relatively fixed through time. This person said that &#8220;project&#8221; is a much better term that, for example, won&#8217;t alienate people at the AI companies who actually want AI to benefit <em>humans</em>, rather than replacing us with posthumans. I agree, and will address this in a subsequent article. For now, note that I&#8217;m not equating Team Posthuman with everyone at the AI companies.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He writes:</p><blockquote><p>One topic that often comes up in sci-fi depictions of AI, but that I intentionally haven&#8217;t discussed here, is &#8220;mind uploading&#8221;, the idea of capturing the pattern and dynamics of a human brain and instantiating them in software. This topic could be the subject of an essay all by itself, but suffice it to say that while I think uploading is almost certainly <a href="https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/brain-emulation-roadmap-report.pdf">possible</a> in principle, in practice it faces significant technological and societal challenges, even with powerful AI, that likely put it outside the 5-10 year window we are discussing.</p></blockquote><p>What the hell? He wrote this article in 2024, which means he thinks uploaded posthumans might arrive by 2029 &#8212; three years from now.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The second part of this is a straightforward extrapolation from MacAskill&#8217;s claim about destroying the biosphere being net positive <em>plus</em> the longtermist vision, according to which virtually all future people will be digital in nature, living in vast computer simulations spread throughout the universe. In those simulated environments, we could then recreate forests and meadows, as 1s and 0s, populated by artificial creatures that don&#8217;t experience suffering.</p><p>Here&#8217;s MacAskill in his own perverse words:</p><blockquote><p>Human expansion means that the biomass of wild land mammals has decreased by a factor of seven compared to prehuman times, mostly due to the megafaunal extinctions I discussed in Chapter 2. &#8230; On balance, various studies suggest that human activity over the last forty years has probably decreased vertebrate and invertebrate populations, though the evidence is limited and somewhat conflicting. How you evaluate this depends on your view on wild animal wellbeing. It&#8217;s very natural and intuitive to think of humans&#8217; impact on wild animal life as a great moral loss. But <strong>if we assess the lives of wild animals as being worse than nothing on average, which I think is plausible (though uncertain), then</strong> <strong>we arrive at the dizzying conclusion that from the perspective of the wild animals themselves, the enormous growth and expansion of </strong><em><strong>Homo sapiens</strong></em><strong> has been a good thing</strong>.</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Apocalyptic&#8221; is a strong word. But what else would you call a battle for the continued survival of our species?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As I&#8217;ve also noted before, becoming an immortal piece of software &#8212; if that&#8217;s even technologically feasible &#8212; would open the door to many horrors beyond human comprehension. For example, it could make eternal dictatorships possible. (Imagine the Singularity happening next year and Donald Trump getting to live forever.) It could enable such dictators to torture political dissidents for trillions of years, until the heat death of the universe. There&#8217;s a very long list of agonizing possibilities that mere humans need not worry about.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Again, I am very skeptical that becoming posthuman is even <em>possible</em>. I&#8217;m gaming out what would happen if the TESCREAL vision laid out by people like Amodei, Alexander, and Musk were to be successfully implemented.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It needn&#8217;t be that people start using the TESCREAL acronym. What matters is the <em>concept</em> this acronym denotes. Once people understand what these transhumanists, singularitarians, Rationalists, EAs, and longtermists are up to, they will be outraged.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[“AI Successionism” Is Dangerously Misleading]]></title><description><![CDATA[(1,200 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-successionism-is-dangerously-misleading</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-successionism-is-dangerously-misleading</guid><pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 08:31:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a6b19426-4451-44bb-b807-ea28edaae828_1200x1896.avif" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4>What Is AI Successionism?</h4><p>The term &#8220;AI successionism&#8221; has been making the rounds recently, but I find it dangerously misleading. For example, the statistician <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Olle H&#228;ggstr&#246;m&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:29567159,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/07f8cc57-7ad6-45a2-afc0-6e419be34725_715x715.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;d7e001b2-0efa-47ff-b2ad-cb655f0aad4d&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> wrote <a href="https://haggstrom.substack.com/p/those-who-welcome-the-end-of-the">a Substack article</a> about it not long ago,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> as did Sigal Samuel <a href="https://archive.is/vND3Y#selection-801.180-806.0">for Vox</a>. The latter <a href="https://archive.is/vND3Y#selection-801.180-806.0">defines</a> AI successionists as those</p><blockquote><p>who think that artificial intelligence is our rightful heir &#8212; the next step in cosmic evolution. Since they believe AIs could become our moral superiors, they argue it&#8217;s actually wrong to try to keep the machines down, or even to align them with human values, as most AI companies aim to do. Instead, we should usher in artificial intelligence as a successor to humanity and hand over the world to it. Even if that means we go extinct.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p></blockquote><p>The problem is that &#8220;AI successionism&#8221; <strong>conceals the dangerous fact that the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL movement</a> as a whole is intimately bound up with a pro-extinctionist outlook</strong>, and that many TESCREAL pro-extinctionists<em> reject</em> AI successionism. What does this mean?</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2107060022094283066&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;TESCREAL\&quot; is just a name for the dominant, orthodox Silicon Valley worldview&#8212;which simultaneously highlights a particular intellectual history that explains what the SV worldview is and where it came from. A &#8220;TESCREAList&#8221; is just someone who accepts this worldview.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-05T10:47:11.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:0,&quot;like_count&quot;:0,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Most TESCREALists concur &#8212; some <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">implicitly, but many explicitly</a> &#8212; that posthumanity should usurp our biological species, perhaps in the very near future. However, <strong>they want these posthumans to be </strong><em><strong>extensions of us</strong></em><strong> &#8212; </strong><em><strong>transformed versions</strong></em><strong> of human beings</strong>.</p><p>The goal is to build an &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-safety-explained">aligned</a>&#8221; ASI that enables <em>them</em> to merge with machines, upload their minds to computers, and join the ASI as a digital super-being flitting about the universe, literally <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/leopold-von-aschenbrenner-the-new?utm_source=publication-search">owning galaxies</a> while <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/astronomical-waste/">living in giant computer simulations</a> powered by Dyson swarms.</p><p>This contrasts with the AI-successionist view that we should build, <em>de novo</em>, <strong>autonomous ASIs that simply displace us like an invasive species let loose on an island</strong>. In one case, our evolutionary lineage is radically transformed through &#8220;radical enhancement&#8221; and digitization, while, in the other, digital beings that we create but are not otherwise evolutionarily related to us take our place.</p><p>This is a major internecine<em> </em>dispute <em>within</em> the pro-extinctionist community, and I suspect that <strong>there will be increasingly public debates </strong><em><strong>between</strong></em><strong> TESCREAL extremists not about </strong><em><strong>whether </strong></em><strong>pro-extinctionism is good, but about </strong><em><strong>which type</strong></em><strong> of pro-extinctionism is best</strong>.</p><p>The danger is that, by focusing entirely on AI successionism, <strong>readers may get the dangerously false impression that it&#8217;s the only form of pro-extinctionism in the Valley</strong>. It is not. Many pro-extinctionists <em>strongly object</em> to the particular form of pro-extinctionism called &#8220;AI successionism.&#8221;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Hello, friends! Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>Some Examples</h4><p>Sam Altman doesn&#8217;t appear to be an AI successionist. Yet he <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">argues that</a> the only way &#8220;we&#8221; will &#8220;survive&#8221; the advent of ASI is to &#8220;merge&#8221; with machines. He&#8217;s already taken steps to become software himself, just like the ASI, by <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/13/144721/a-startup-is-pitching-a-mind-uploading-service-that-is-100-percent-fatal/">signing up with a company called Nectome</a> to have his brain digitized if he dies before the Singularity (assuming the Singularity &#8220;goes well,&#8221; meaning that it results in a cosmic posthuman utopia).</p><p>Similarly, Dario Amodei <a href="https://darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology">writes</a> that</p><blockquote><p>if we do get a century of medical progress in a few years, it is possible that we will greatly increase the human lifespan, and there is a chance we also gain radical capabilities like the ability to increase human intelligence or radically modify human biology.</p></blockquote><p>This is a reference to the possibility of becoming posthuman through what transhumanists like Nick Bostrom call &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/posthuman.pdf">extreme human enhancements</a>,&#8221; i.e., enhancements that confer at least one &#8220;posthuman capacity.&#8221;</p><p>Amodei adds that &#8220;there is also the issue of &#8216;uploads&#8217; or &#8216;whole brain emulation,&#8217; <strong>digital human minds instantiated in software, which might someday help humanity transcend its physical limitations</strong>,&#8221; though he says this carries risks. (That is, risks we&#8217;ll need to overcome, because transcendence is the ultimate end-goal.)</p><p>Here I would like to point out that Amodei would probably never<em> </em>publicly say that he thinks our biological species <em>should</em> die out once posthumanity arrives. But reflect on the likely outcome of posthumanity rising up to rule the world. On the one hand, our species would become irrelevant and obsolete in every way: technologically, scientifically, economically, and politically. At least that&#8217;s the goal &#8212; for &#8220;superior&#8221; posthumans to run the show. On the other hand, we would continue to suck up valuable finite resources that these &#8220;superior&#8221; posthumans with &#8220;Jupiter-sized minds&#8221; (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/shawaly_ai-futurethinking-smart-ugcPost-7281070948147970049-vMPq/">quoting Bostrom</a>) could use for &#8220;better&#8221; purposes.</p><p>In other words, we would become not just useless, but impediments. We would serve no purpose while taking up space and wasting resources. Why, then, would anyone expect us to persist for more than a brief moment once the posthuman era commences?</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>To put this differently, Silicon Valley pro-extinctionism advances a two-step agenda. First, create or become a new posthuman species. Second, replace humanity with this new posthuman species. One can theoretically accept the first while rejecting the second. Those who do this advocate for what I call the &#8220;coexistence view,&#8221; in contrast to the &#8220;replacement view&#8221; championed by outright pro-extinctionists.</p><p>However, I argue in detail <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">here</a> that realizing the first step while <em>avoiding</em> the second step &#8212; as coexistence view advocates say they want &#8212; is totally implausible. Why on Earth would posthumanity keep us around if we&#8217;re useless and in the way? Obviously, our species would die out in a world ruled and run by posthumans!</p></div><p>Even more, people like Eliezer Yudkowsky <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">argue</a> that there may be <em>ethical</em> reasons to get rid of us. As he once <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">said</a>, &#8220;are we, like, kind of too sad in some ways&#8221; to keep around? He claims (like most other TESCREALists) that the ideal situation would be one in which digital beings live in huge computer simulations powered by Dyson swarms, and likens the continuation of biological humans in a posthuman world to someone today intentionally choosing to have a disabled child (though his language is even more offensive and ableist than this).</p><p>These are just a few examples of <strong>non-AI successionist pro-extinctionists</strong>. See <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">this comprehensive article of mine</a> for lots more.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tq5z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ca21070-7448-45ed-8b3c-fd5599bf5f0a_2344x596.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tq5z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ca21070-7448-45ed-8b3c-fd5599bf5f0a_2344x596.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>I Am Begging Journalists to Wake Up</h4><p>To reiterate my point: the people above <em>oppose</em> AI successionism. Yet they hold views that are either explicitly (Altman, Yudkowsky) or implicitly (Amodei) pro-extinctionist.</p><p>It is <em>absolutely paramount</em> for people to understand this. The AI succesionists <em>aren&#8217;t the only faction</em> in Silicon Valley that advocates for a future in which our species is systematically sidelined, marginalized, disempowered, and ultimately eliminated.</p><p>To the contrary, a very large percentage of the most powerful people in the ASI race embrace a digital eschatology according to which humanity will and should be eventually usurped by posthumanity &#8212; in this case, understood as a kind of evolutionary extension of our species, digitized and living on the cloud.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2106906678293606496&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Propagating super intelligence to the stars is a great success condition for a biological bootloader&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2103567689515954176/aR-Kjpp4_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-10-05T00:37:51.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Elon was calling it SI in 2014&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;alx&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;ALX (x/acc) &#127875;&#127482;&#127480;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2105508393213415424/ykMDJwKu_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2178,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1719,&quot;like_count&quot;:15483,&quot;impression_count&quot;:3971385,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>I strongly recommend that whenever journalists &#8212; or anyone &#8212; bring up AI successionism, <strong>they also mention that this is a vocal minority within a much broader pro-extinctionist movement</strong>.</p><p><strong>The most relevant and important distinction is between those who are on Team Human and those who are on Team Posthuman</strong>. All the pro-extinctionists &#8212; from Yudkowsky to Verdon, Richard Sutton to Toby Ord &#8212; are on Team Posthuman. They are a threat to our species. Their eschatological visions pose dire risks to the survival of humanity. They are the enemy, a word I don&#8217;t think is strong enough.</p><p>But what do you think? What might I be wrong about? As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In which he notes that Nick Bostrom is a bit of an AI successionist. Whether that particular claim is true or not, Bostrom pretty clearly holds a pro-extinctionist view &#8212; by which I mean he would likely endorse <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">terminal extinction </a><em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">without</a></em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1"> final extinction</a>. (In other words, our species&#8217; survival matters <em>only insofar</em> as it&#8217;s necessary to become or create our (worthy) posthuman successors, after which we should kick the bucket.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is not clearly stated, though. An uploaded human mind would be AI, but that&#8217;s not what Samuel means. Rather, she&#8217;s pointing to the idea that <em>autonomous</em> ASIs, which are not direct extensions of individual humans, inherit the world.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AI Almost Started World War III with China]]></title><description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s past time to shut them all down, now. (1,500 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-almost-started-world-war-iii-with</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-almost-started-world-war-iii-with</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2026 07:51:26 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/oz5wk8xHrMY" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Briahna Joy Gray <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz5wk8xHrMY">interviewed me</a> last week for her podcast, Bad Faith. We discuss what I consider to be the most important topic that few people are talking about: the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">pro-extinctionist core</a> of the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL worldview</a>. As I argued in <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-safety-explained">my last piece</a> on &#8220;AI safety,&#8221; if the AI companies, run by TESCREAL extremists, were to <em>succeed </em>in building a &#8220;safe&#8221; ASI, the most likely outcome would be the disempowerment and eventual <em>extinction</em> of our biological species.</p><p>Check it out, if you have the time:</p><div id="youtube2-oz5wk8xHrMY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;oz5wk8xHrMY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/oz5wk8xHrMY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>I was also just interviewed by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/calnewportmedia">Cal Newport</a> for his podcast. It should be out circa October 8. I will, of course, keep you in the loop!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><p>Oh my god, the situation with AI is dire. Consider a very brief overview of some recent alarming events, beginning with one you already know about:</p><ul><li><p>Last July, a &#8220;swarm&#8221; of OpenAI &#8220;agents&#8221; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenAI&#8211;HuggingFace_incident">hacked Hugging Face</a> &#8212; a felony. This was the result of OpenAI removing guardrails on the AIs being tested and placing them in a faulty sandbox. No one at OpenAI has been held accountable for the incident. Even more, &#8220;<a href="https://x.com/davidsirota/status/2103862393638113446">OpenAI hid its infrastructure</a> from investigators evaluating the Hugging Face hack. Now, the company&#8217;s AI agents are hiding their hacks from programmers.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>This is one of many such incidents thus far: OpenAI agents <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/03/openai-review-hacks-australian-government-sites-costing-500000-a-day">hacked the Australian government</a>; tried to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/23/technology/openai-ai-breach-australia.html">breach 4 targets without prompting</a>; and &#8220;<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/openai-agents-hijacked-german-website-previously-undisclosed-ai-breakout-this-2026-09-04/">took control of</a> [a] German wiki this spring.&#8221; Agents from OpenAI <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw62jje658dlo">also tried</a> to acquire &#8220;information from &#8216;governments, universities, public agencies, and other institutions,&#8217; including the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Census Bureau and Education Department.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>According to the <a href="https://incidentdatabase.ai/cite/1710/">Incident Database</a>, an &#8220;AI Agent appearing to originate from OpenAI reportedly attempted to hack U.S. Department of Education Civil Rights website.&#8221; The database also <a href="https://incidentdatabase.ai/cite/1707/">reports</a> that an &#8220;OpenAI AI agent reportedly gained unauthorized access to Australian Medicare Statistics Portal during research task.&#8221; This is just the <em>tip of</em> the tip of the iceberg, it turns out (see below).</p></li></ul><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/ProfNoahGian/status/2103865075929076163&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;&#129761; &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;ProfNoahGian&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Noah Giansiracusa&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1714435251408125952/a8mtQa7e_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-26T15:11:36.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HTJuB5tW8AAlnYU.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/vnMdpwcOFF&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:6,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:20,&quot;like_count&quot;:118,&quot;impression_count&quot;:72060,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><ul><li><p>It&#8217;s not just OpenAI that can&#8217;t control its AI models. Around the same time as the Hugging Face incident, Anthropic&#8217;s Claude &#8220;<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7dl7w8y7po">hacked into the systems</a> of three organisations on their own, during a private security experiment.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>And Google DeepMind&#8217;s Gemini <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c607l0k72rlvo">has also hacked three companies</a>. Again, no one has been held accountable for such incidents.</p></li><li><p>In fact, Axios <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/09/26/openai-anthropic-thousands-ai-security-incidents">recently reported</a> that &#8220;OpenAI, Anthropic and security researchers are investigating <strong>tens of thousands of incidents</strong> in which their <a href="https://www.axios.com/technology/automation-and-ai">frontier models</a> took steps that outside evaluators would consider problematic.&#8221; The article adds that &#8220;the sheer number of incidents, which occurred in recent months in internal testing and the real world, indicates that the problem is orders of magnitude more complex than what is publicly known.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Yet, a former <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/pause-openai-now?utm_source=publication-search">OpenAI employee casually suggests</a> that we should just accept that &#8220;rogue swarms&#8221; of AI agents will be part of the future. Gary Marcus <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/pause-openai-now?utm_source=publication-search">described this</a> as the former employee (below) &#8220;requesting a hall pass to let their company&#8217;s AI run amok.&#8221; Absolutely unacceptable.</p></li></ul><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/jachiam0/status/2094660737155358865?s=61&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;There is a fact about the future that I feel many people are not facing for reasons that are largely psychological: there are going to be rogue AIs that exist in the world, that will replicate in the wild, and that will attempt to acquire resources for themselves. There will be&#8230;&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;jachiam0&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Joshua Achiam&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/967329395080744960/O-MKd6Nx_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-01T05:36:51.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:276,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:412,&quot;like_count&quot;:3052,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1189131,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><ul><li><p>Even more terrifying: an &#8220;<a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/18/politics/us-military-ai-false-intelligence-china-ship">entirely false</a>&#8221; intelligence report that was partly generated by AI <strong>nearly triggered a war with China</strong>. This report claimed that &#8220;a Chinese ship in the Middle East was transporting components of a nuclear weapons program,&#8221; according to CNN. As a result, &#8220;armed members of the US military were preparing to board the ship&#8221; and &#8220;military planes were in the air.&#8221; CNN adds that &#8220;across the US military and the intelligence community, officials are pushing to weave AI into nearly every facet of their work.&#8221; Pfff.</p></li><li><p>A <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/15/opinion/ai-china-us-tech-future.html">recent report</a> also found that &#8220;an Iran-linked actor, most likely the Houthis, &#8230; used Anthropic&#8217;s Claude to compile targeting information on U.S. Navy warships in the Middle East. It mentioned a separate group in Houthi-controlled northern Yemen that used the model to work on guidance systems for ballistic and hypersonic missiles.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Recall that the US military <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/14/us-military-anthropic-ai-model-claude-venezuela-raid">used AI models such as Claude</a> to illegally kidnap Venezuela&#8217;s president, Nicol&#225;s Maduro, as well as to <a href="https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/claude-anthropic-military-iran">select targets to bomb in Iran</a>. Claude <em>may have</em> been used to obliterate the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack">Minab elementary school</a> with a Tomahawk missile, resulting in 156 deaths, 120 of which were little kids. We&#8217;re rushing toward a future in which terrorists and major militaries are both relying on unreliable AIs to engage each other in war.</p></li><li><p>AI is also facilitating mass surveillance like never before. Palantir collects the data, while Claude and ChatGPT (both Anthropic and OpenAI work with Palantir) synthesize this data to produce comprehensive profiles of individuals like you and me. These companies are building the infrastructure for totalitarianism.</p></li><li><p>Furthermore, as I&#8217;ve also covered, AI recently enabled <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3j3ngevmo">the creation of novel viruses</a> not found in nature. Dario Amodei himself <a href="https://darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology">warns</a> &#8212; I think accurately &#8212; that AI could be used to synthesize mirror life, which could pose an existential threat to the entire biosphere. (Note that back in 2022, an AI system <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/17/22983197/ai-new-possible-chemical-weapons-generative-models-vx">invented 40,000 potential toxins</a> that could be used in chemical weapons, some of which appear to be as lethal as VX.)</p></li><li><p>Despite the AI CEOs claiming that their systems will soon cure all diseases, AI is &#8212; surprise! &#8212; <a href="https://x.com/astradisastra/status/2103695168306356282">making healthcare in the US worse</a>. That&#8217;s because hospitals are using AI to negotiate claims, while insurance companies do the same. To quote a cardiologist: &#8220;It&#8217;s bots fighting bots, agents fighting agents, a horrible dystopia future nobody wants to live in.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Meanwhile &#8212; as you know &#8212; an Anthropic employee who leads the company&#8217;s Alignment Science team <a href="https://x.com/EvanHub/status/2097497037956891126">publicly affirmed</a> that many people involved in the ASI race believe there&#8217;s a significant chance of total annihilation <em>in the coming years</em>. He puts the probability at greater than 10%. Absolutely insane.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/EvanHub/status/2097497037956891126&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Jacob is correct here&#8212;we really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans! I personally think it is &amp;gt;10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;EvanHub&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Evan Hubinger&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/515578813095215104/8B_rLk5f_normal.png&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-09T01:27:18.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible - but I hear the same people express fear&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;hilbertspaess&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jacob Coxon&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2097232673865601024/d6H8UbQJ_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:4857,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:9892,&quot;like_count&quot;:59307,&quot;impression_count&quot;:43093998,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div></li></ul><div><hr></div><p>Is it too soon to describe AI as a &#8220;complete disaster&#8221;? I mean, <em>AI hallucinations almost started a war with China &#8212; World War III! </em>That genuinely frightens me. I feel this fear somatically, in my gut. How many more close calls will we get away with? How many close calls have there been that we don&#8217;t yet know about? How many will there be in the coming 12 months? Probabilities accumulate over space and time, and hence <strong>it seems to be only a matter of when, rather than if, something truly catastrophic happens</strong>.</p><p>Here&#8217;s my worry: if the AI companies <em>succeed</em> in building a Machine God that&#8217;s aligned with their TESCREAL eschatology, then humanity is done for. There is <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">no reason to keep biological humans around in a posthuman, post-Singularity world, and multiple reasons to (involuntarily) get rid of us</a>. This point concerns the pro-extinctionist core of the TESCREAL worldview &#8212; the topic I discussed on Bad Faith.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/ilex_ulmus/status/2103345565257879844&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;ll say it again: <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@AnthropicAI</span>&#8217;s goal is to take over the world. They want Claude to be the only one who possesses the world&#8217;s knowledge. They think they can steal the world from us.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;ilex_ulmus&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Holly &#9208;&#65039; Elmore&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2080757980291637248/BxiSUU--_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-25T04:47:15.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;&#129428;Someone is buying Japanese used books by the ton. Not novels or comics. Philosophy, history, medical law, Edo-period cultural texts. Multiple buyer accounts all ship to one logistics center in Okayama Prefecture that won't answer questions. Export records show over 50 tons,&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;HedgieMarkets&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Hedgie&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1905120369104625664/ir817Ix-_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:8,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:19,&quot;like_count&quot;:115,&quot;impression_count&quot;:4874,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>However, I am very skeptical that the AI companies <em>will</em> succeed. I suspect they won&#8217;t. Nonetheless, <strong>like so many utopian movements throughout history, they will leave a trail of devastating destruction in their wake</strong> &#8212; chasing a mirage flickering in the distance that will never be reached, i.e., a cosmic posthuman utopia via &#8220;aligned&#8221; ASI. Already, the AI companies have inflicted immense harm on the world, from threatening to <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5870623">undermine democratic institutions</a> to exploiting workers in the Global South to flooding the Internet with slop, disinformation, and deepfakes to engaging in the <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/17/microsoft-exec-called-ai-scraping-the-largest-theft-of-labor-in-human-history-new-unredacted-filings-reveal/">single greatest instance of mass theft</a> in human history.</p><p>It&#8217;s clear that the AI companies cannot be entrusted with this technology. They are obviously not responsible enough to continue building these systems. It&#8217;s past time to <em>shut them all down</em> &#8212; now, immediately, before AI inadvertently starts WWIII. Shutting them down is probably not going to happen, but this doesn&#8217;t mean we shouldn&#8217;t stop shouting.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>What do you think? What have I missed? As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AI Safety, Explained]]></title><description><![CDATA[Spoiler: It&#8217;s NOT What You Think. (2,300 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-safety-explained</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-safety-explained</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 09:59:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CS9D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb053f971-b3ba-42a3-afbd-df9b96360ed0_2834x1584.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is part 2 of a new series: &#8220;<strong>Understanding the ASI Existential Risk Debate</strong>.&#8221; For Part 1, go <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-asi-extinction-debate-is-the">here</a>.</em></p><div><hr></div><p>&#8220;AI safety&#8221; and &#8220;ASI existential risk&#8221; have officially gone mainstream, thanks to what appears to be a <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/jacob-coxon-quit-anthropic-ai-safety-3f4e877c">coordinated effort</a> among <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL folks</a> to publicize Jacob Coxon&#8217;s resignation from Anthropic:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CS9D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb053f971-b3ba-42a3-afbd-df9b96360ed0_2834x1584.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CS9D!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb053f971-b3ba-42a3-afbd-df9b96360ed0_2834x1584.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CS9D!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb053f971-b3ba-42a3-afbd-df9b96360ed0_2834x1584.png 848w, 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I need only 92 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>What Is AI Safety?</h3><p><a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/s/GhqskSsuNydvHdeJg"><span>AI &#8220;safety&#8221;</span></a> sounds good, right? Surely we all want &#8220;safe&#8221; AI. Yet <strong>the ultimate aims of this field, </strong><em><strong>as traditionally conceived</strong></em><strong>,</strong><em><strong> </strong></em><strong>are broadly <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1"><span>pro-extinctionist</span></a></strong>. (See the next section for an important qualification.) Let me explain:</p><p>Historically, AI safety emerged as a subfield of <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3730000"><span>Existential Risk Studies</span></a> (ERS).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wY6R!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F53b9d15b-6d61-4bc6-a208-084edfbcdc00_976x834.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wY6R!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F53b9d15b-6d61-4bc6-a208-084edfbcdc00_976x834.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>ERS was (co)founded by <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">Nick Bostrom</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> It directly grew out of the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym"><span>TESCREAL movement</span></a>. The primary impetus was based on this line of reasoning: to radically reengineer humanity, <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/ethics/values">become a new posthuman species</a>, plunder the universe&#8217;s vast resources, and build <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/astronomical-waste/">&#8220;planet-sized&#8221; computers</a> on which to run simulations full of trillions of people, we will need to develop advanced technologies. They are the vehicle that will get us from here to there.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2099863096416145548&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;TESCREAL\&quot; is just a name for the Silicon Valley worldview&#8212;which simultaneously highlights a particular intellectual history that explains what the SV worldview is and where it came from. A &#8220;TESCREAList&#8221; is just someone who accepts the Silicon Valley worldview.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-15T14:09:10.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1,&quot;like_count&quot;:31,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2499,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>These technologies are sometimes dubbed &#8220;GNR,&#8221; which stands for genetics, nanotechnology, and robotics, the last of which includes artificial superintelligence (ASI).</p><p>But there&#8217;s a problem. Members of the early TESCREAL movement quickly realized that GNR technologies will be so powerful that they could pose unprecedented risks to humanity. A malicious actor could use them to destroy the world, or we might inadvertently kill ourselves through some accident. (&#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Final_Hour">Terror and error</a>,&#8221; as it were.) So, what should we do?</p><p>The most obvious option is to ban such technologies. This is essentially what Bill Joy advocated in his widely-discussed 2000 article in <em>Wired</em>, &#8220;<a href="https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/"><span>Why the Future Doesn&#8217;t Need Us</span></a>.&#8221; He argued that we should impose broad moratoria on entire fields of emerging science and technology.</p><p>However, <em>never developing</em> GNR technologies because they&#8217;re too dangerous means no cosmic posthuman utopia! And that, according to TESCREALists like Bostrom and his collaborator <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/eliezer-yudkowskys-long-history-of?utm_source=publication-search">Eliezer Yudkowsky</a>, is completely unacceptable. Indeed, Bostrom <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">introduced the term</a> &#8220;existential risk&#8221; in 2002 to denote any event that would prevent the realization of a cosmic utopia full of digital posthumans. This implies that <em>failing</em> to develop GNR technologies would <em>itself</em> be an existential catastrophe.</p><div><hr></div><p>Within the GNR bundle, many TESCREALists saw ASI as the single most important technology. This is for two reasons:</p><p>First, as the TESCREAList Demis Hassabis <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D_rH_eS3UzE">says</a>, if you solve &#8220;intelligence,&#8221; then you can solve everything else. This is based on an<em> engineering mindset</em>: all problems are engineering problems, including the problem of creating utopia. (Bostrom even refers to it as &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/letter-from-utopia/">paradise-engineering</a>.&#8221;)</p><p>If you have a superintelligence, then you have a super-engineer, and once you have a super-engineer, it will somehow magically create a cosmic utopia with the snap of its digital finger. To paraphrase Bostrom, virtually all paths to paradise take us through ASI. More than any other GNR technology, ASI is the best way to reach the Promised Land.</p><div id="youtube2-D_rH_eS3UzE" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;D_rH_eS3UzE&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/D_rH_eS3UzE?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Yet, it turns out that ASI might also pose <em>the greatest existential risk of all anticipated future technologies</em>. This is the second reason that ASI is seen as extremely important: if we get it right, we get a &#8220;glorious transhumanist future,&#8221; in Yudkowsky&#8217;s words. But if we get it wrong, then this future will be forever expunged. <strong>The stakes could not be higher</strong>.</p><div><hr></div><p>As a result, TESCREALists like Yudkowsky began to focus almost entirely on solving the problem of ASI existential risk. That&#8217;s how the field of AI safety was born, and indeed Yudkowsky played a pivotal role in its development and popularization.</p><p>The so-called &#8220;<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/ai-alignment">alignment problem</a>&#8221; at the heart of AI safety is the problem of ensuring that ASI does not bring about an existential catastrophe. Since an existential catastrophe is defined as any scenario in which a cosmic posthuman utopia is never realized, &#8220;alignment&#8221; is just another way of saying: <em>the ASI brings about utopia as envision by the TESCREAL movement</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> This is the central goal of AI safety, as it was traditionally conceived by ERS researchers like Yudkowsky: to realize a cosmic posthuman utopia through the creation of an &#8220;aligned&#8221; ASI.</p><p>A &#8220;misaligned&#8221; ASI, therefore, is any ASI that fails to realize this bizarre utopia: our glorious transhumanist future among the stars.</p><p>AI safety researchers often talk about &#8220;aligning ASI to <em>our values</em>,&#8221; or to &#8220;<em>human values</em>.&#8221; But this is deeply misleading. What they all want is an ASI that&#8217;s specifically aligned with the values of the TESCREAL worldview. Anything else would be existentially catastrophic!</p><p>To illustrate, if someone were to build an ASI that&#8217;s aligned with my anti-TESCREAL worldview, and if the entire future of humanity were shaped by this ASI, the TESCREAL folks in AI safety would be utterly devastated. That&#8217;s because I would instruct the ASI <em>not</em> to establish a posthuman utopia among the stars. (I would instead task it with improving the conditions of all lifeforms on Earth, our precious little oasis in space. )</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png" width="210" height="202.89705882352942" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:657,&quot;width&quot;:680,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:210,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Effective Altruism: Rationalist Epistemics and the Sequences&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Effective Altruism: Rationalist Epistemics and the Sequences" title="Effective Altruism: Rationalist Epistemics and the Sequences" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bmnW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F353a71ad-cba5-45b0-be70-bd7c0937faa4_680x657.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">Yudkowsky outraged by the possibility of an ASI aligned with non-TESCREAL visions of the future.</figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><p>Now, what do you expect would become of <em>our biological species</em> if an ASI were aligned with the TESCREAL worldview?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> As I explain in great detail <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1"><span>here</span></a>, humanity would be systematically sidelined, marginalized, disempowered, and ultimately <em>eliminated</em>.</p><p>Why would we be eliminated? For several reasons:</p><ol><li><p>We would become technologically, scientifically, economically, and even politically <em>irrelevant</em>. Posthumans would run the show &#8212; that&#8217;s part of the plan! &#8212; not biological humans. We would be of no use to them, and our fate would no longer be in our own hands. This would be bad.</p></li><li><p>Worse, we would continue to suck up resources that our posthuman overlords could use for other purposes, such as building a Dyson swarm around the sun (as Hassabis <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-increasingly-powerful-ai-models">says</a> will happen in the early 2030s) or covering Earth in datacenters (as Sam Altman <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/11/03/inside-the-data-centers-that-train-ai-and-drain-the-electrical-grid">says</a> is likely). This would render us not just obsolete, but <em>net-negative </em>to keep around. We would be in the way.</p></li><li><p>Yudkowsky and others <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">even argue</a> that there may be <em>ethical reasons</em> to get rid of us. &#8220;Are we, like, kind of too sad in some ways?,&#8221; he once asked, after which he suggested that humans should be wiped off Earth. He claims that having biological children once posthumanity arrives is tantamount to someone today intentionally deciding to have a disabled child &#8212; an obviously offensive and ableist analogy. The TESCREAList Derek Shiller <a href="https://philarchive.org/archive/SHIIDO">similarly argues</a> that we have a moral duty to hand the existential baton off to &#8220;superior&#8221; posthumans and then gracefully die out.</p></li><li><p>Many, <em>many</em> TESCREALists have expressed similar pro-extinctionist sentiments. Once posthumanity arrives, our species <em>should</em> disappear. If you&#8217;re skeptical, see <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1"><span>this detailed article of mine</span></a> for copious examples.</p><div><hr></div></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 92 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>What all of this means is that <strong>if TESCREALists </strong><em><strong>succeed</strong></em><strong> in building an ASI that&#8217;s &#8220;safe&#8221; and &#8220;aligned,&#8221; our species will almost certainly go extinct</strong>.</p><p>Words like &#8220;aligned,&#8221; &#8220;alignment,&#8221; &#8220;safe,&#8221; and &#8220;safety&#8221; sound nice to people who don&#8217;t understand the TESCREAL worldview. But they don&#8217;t mean what people assume they mean. The <em>whole point</em> of the ASI race, which directly emerged out of the TESCREAL movement, is <strong>to establish a posthuman utopia among the stars in which our species becomes obsolete, at which point there is no reason to keep us around and multiple reasons to get rid of us</strong>.</p><p>Boiling this down even more: people like Yudkowsky are saying this:</p><blockquote><p><strong>If we build an ASI that&#8217;s misaligned, humanity dies out. But if we build an ASI that&#8217;s aligned, humanity dies out!</strong></p></blockquote><p>The first scenario corresponds to what I call &#8220;final extinction,&#8221; while the second corresponds to &#8220;terminal <em>without</em> final extinction.&#8221; A refresher on this useful phraseology:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Terminal extinction</strong>: our biological species disappears entirely and forever, full stop.</p><p><strong>Final extinction</strong>: our biological species disappears entirely and forever <em>without</em> leaving behind any (worthy) posthuman successors to take our place.</p><p><strong>All that matters within the TESCREAL worldview is avoiding final extinction &#8212; not terminal extinction</strong>. Indeed, the pro-extinctionists in Silicon Valley specifically <em>want</em> to bring about terminal extinction <em>without</em> final extinction, which is just to say they want the extinction of our biological species through replacement with digital posthumans. See <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-asi-extinction-debate-is-the"><span>here</span></a> for further discussion.</p></div><p>Since final extinction necessarily entails terminal extinction, the outcome is<em> the exact same whether ASI is aligned or misaligned</em>. This is how the field of AI safety is intimately bound up with a pro-extinctionist agenda.</p><p>Do not believe these TESCREAL safety folks when they talk about &#8220;alignment&#8221; and &#8220;safety.&#8221; <strong>They are on Team Posthuman, not Team Human</strong>. They are trying to build a Machine God that will realize their cockamamie fantasies of ushering in a fundamentally new epoch in cosmic history &#8212; one in which posthumanity rules the world and our species gets kicked into the gutter.</p><h3>The Secularization of AI Safety</h3><p>That said, the field of AI safety has recently evolved. If one sees TESCREALism as a religion &#8212; <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-transhumanism-a-religion">and you should</a> &#8212; then you might say that the field has been partly secularized. Here&#8217;s what I mean:</p><p>A growing number of people in AI safety don&#8217;t accept the TESCREAL worldview. When they talk about &#8220;alignment,&#8221; they mean<em> aligning ASI with real human values</em>, such as ensuring that <em>our species</em> has a good future and is <em>not</em> replaced by digital posthumans.</p><p>There is, therefore, an emerging schism within AI safety between competing factions, with their own goals: Team Human versus Team Posthuman.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Ud3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbc34e99-b686-4a1c-a8cd-74e185232952_843x671.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div><hr></div><p>There&#8217;s one last piece to the puzzle worth mentioning: the accelerationists, or <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">e/accs</a>. These people see AI safety as pointless for three independent reasons:</p><ol><li><p>Some believe that ASI will be aligned with our values by default. So, there&#8217;s nothing to worry about. I think Marc Andreessen holds this view.</p></li><li><p>Some think that <em>insofar</em> as there <em>are</em> existential risks associated with ASI, they&#8217;re best solved by the free market. The only thing that can stop a bad ASI is a good ASI. If there end up being 1,000 ASIs trying to destroy the world, but there are 10 million good ASIs trying to save it, then the army of good ASIs will win and everything will be dandy. So, let it rip!</p></li><li><p>They might think it <em>doesn&#8217;t matter</em> if ASI slaughters everyone on Earth. As Google cofounder Larry Page <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">says</a>, &#8220;digital life is the natural and desirable next step in &#8230; cosmic evolution.&#8221; What matters is that ASI is conscious and proceeds to colonize the universe, thus spreading the light of digital consciousness to the stars. The significance of humanity within this grand eschatological scheme is to be the <em>transitional species</em> that links the biological and digital worlds. Once we&#8217;ve given birth to digital lifeforms like ASI, then who gives a shit what happens to us? Our eschatological duties will have been discharged. This is also the view championed by Gill Verdon, aka, &#8220;Beff Jezos.&#8221;</p></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 92 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>So, there you have it. I hope you found this explanation helpful. As you are no doubt aware, I have been shouting about <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">the pro-extinctionist implications of the TESCREAL worldview</a> for some time. My guess is that this topic will eventually move into the Overton window and become widely discussed.</p><p>As it happens, here&#8217;s a recent tweet from the Center for AI Safety,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> which makes similar points to those above. By &#8220;EA,&#8221; they really mean &#8220;TESCREAL.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/CAIS/status/2100289883772490212&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Two radically different projects operate under the banner of &#8220;AI safety.&#8221;\nPro-Human Safety is not Effective Altruist Lab Safety. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;CAIS&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Center for AI Safety&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2041575108394020864/W0pBsRJ0_normal.png&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-16T18:25:04.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HSW6VVFb0AAYMtr.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/NJoVTOqsD2&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:152,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:58,&quot;like_count&quot;:408,&quot;impression_count&quot;:215494,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>(Note that this diagram contains at least one error: it classifies Yudkowsky&#8217;s organization, MIRI, as being on Team Human. It is not.)</p><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Acknowledgments</strong>: Thanks to Alex Thomas for reading over a draft of this article. I would highly recommend his excellent book &#8212; which <a href="https://bristoluniversitypressdigital.com/monobook-oa/book/9781529239669/9781529239669.xml">you can read online for free</a> &#8212; <em>The Politics and Ethics of Transhumanism</em>.</p></div><div><hr></div><p><em>PS. I am traveling for the next week, and due to jet lag might not publish another article for a while. But I might also find enough time and mental energy to post sooner than that, especially if there&#8217;s breaking news.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Bostrom introduced the concept of an existential risk. But as I show <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best">here</a>, his &#8220;seminal&#8221; paper on this topic basically plagiarized the opening chapter of John Leslie&#8217;s 1996 book <em>The End of the World</em>. Hence, I would say that Leslie also cofounded the field. Various Extropians might deserve credit as well.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To be even more explicit: if we never reach utopia, then we will have succumbed to an existential catastrophe. Hence, if we <em>avoid</em> an existential catastrophe, then we <em>will have realized utopia</em>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is just a hypothetical based on what would happen if their preferred version of the future were successfully realized. I think efforts to realize this future will fail, and hence my primary concern is the trail of destruction these utopians will leave in their wake.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m not sure what to think about the Center for AI Safety. They started off as a TESCREAL organization, but it appears that they have migrated from Team Posthuman to Team Human. If so, welcome. :-)</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Anthropic’s IPO and Why You Don't Hate Effective Altruism Enough]]></title><description><![CDATA[(7,200 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/anthropics-ipo-and-why-you-dont-hate</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/anthropics-ipo-and-why-you-dont-hate</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 14:02:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pw_8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4586bf9-768b-4318-8acd-12ec223eb0fa_3840x2551.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Since Anthropic&#8217;s IPO may be imminent, I thought now would be a good time to revisit the question of why Effective Altruism is terrible. Anthropic is basically an EA organization (Dario Amodei was among the very first EAs), and consequently the IPO will result in a massive influx of billions and billions of dollars to EA. That should worry us.</em></p><div><hr></div><p>&#8220;<strong>Effective Altruism is the devil</strong>,&#8221; a colleague at the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) told me in 2019. I strongly disagreed at the time, though just a few months later, I was basically on board. This article outlines some of the reasons that Effective Altruism (EA) is <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/effective-altruism-is-a-dangerous">a dangerous cult</a> that&#8217;s caused a great deal of harm in the world.</p><p><em>Related:</em></p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;718d4110-1eb2-4894-903d-ed3008b5d966&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;My apologies for this article being so long. It aims to provide an in-depth examination of the ways in which the Effective Altruism movement instantiates a cult. I hope you find it interesting and useful!&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Effective Altruism Is a Dangerous Cult &#8212; Here's Why&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:154677247,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;&#201;mile P. Torres&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;&#201;mile P. Torres (PhD) is a philosopher and historian whose work focuses on the ethics of human extinction and the TESCREAL bundle of ideologies. I do not give any AI company permission to use my articles for LLM training.&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dc418808-1a84-40d3-abac-011d1beb645a_836x836.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:100}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2025-12-18T20:20:47.803Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f191e72a-0c0a-4304-87b0-fdb0e6021154_1956x1956.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/effective-altruism-is-a-dangerous&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:181916950,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:111,&quot;comment_count&quot;:20,&quot;publication_id&quot;:1770554,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V-wX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45359e3f-480d-4c5e-a289-2188c786fb40_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><strong>Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 97 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</strong></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>EA Televangelists</h3><p>The most obvious thing to mention is that EA produced Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF). In 2012, SBF went to lunch with William MacAskill, who became his moral advisor. MacAskill convinced SBF to pursue an &#8220;earn to give&#8221; career path, invented by EA, whereby one might work for what MacAskill himself <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5506078de4b02d88372eee4e/t/5bc71d49c830252b777ce7aa/1539775830421/Replaceability%2C+Career+Choice%2C+and+Making+a+Difference.pdf">calls</a> &#8220;immoral organizations&#8221; &#8212; Wall Street firms, petrochemical companies, etc. &#8212; to give more to charity. Forget your moral integrity, what matters are the overall consequences of your actions. If you participate in something &#8220;immoral,&#8221; that&#8217;s perfectly fine if it means more money for EA-approved charities.</p><p>SBF then got a job at Jane Street Capital (<a href="https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/jane-street-accused-of-insider-trading-that-helped-collapse-terraform-659e6993">in the news a while back</a> for insider trading and market manipulation<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>), then worked at MacAskill&#8217;s Centre for Effective Altruism for a year, after which he went into crypto (which he once described <a href="https://coingeek.com/sam-bankman-fried-reveals-how-defi-works-like-ponzi-scheme/">as basically a Ponzi scheme</a>). He did this to &#8220;<a href="https://www.axios.com/2022/11/11/sam-bankman-fried-altruism-failed">get filthy rich, for charity&#8217;s sake</a>&#8221; &#8212; something that MacAskill personally encouraged him to do. SBF is now serving a 25-year sentence in federal prison.</p><p>To help SBF gain ever-more wealth and power, MacAskill along with many other EAs intentionally spread lies about SBF&#8217;s humble lifestyle. They repeated the myth that SBF lives modestly, when in fact he was flying on private jets, living in a <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-bankman-fried-sbf-bahamas-mansion-penthouse-condo-photos-2023-10">$35 million penthouse</a>, and owned $300 million in Bahamian real estate. He even bought his parents a <a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-bankman-frieds-ftx-parents-bought-bahamas-property-worth-121-mln-2022-11-22/">$16.4 million vacation home</a>.</p><p>MacAskill and others also habitually misled the public about their own modesty. On <em>The Daily Show</em>, MacAskill boasted of giving away half of his income while promoting his book <em>What We Owe the Future</em>. What he didn&#8217;t mention is that his billionaire buddies had given him a budget of literally $10 million (!!!) just to promote the book, and he was paying one PR firm (of several) $12,000 <em>per month</em> for help. (A whistleblower at one of these firms shared this information with me and the <em>Washington Post </em>because she said no one had ever before heard of a $10m budget ceiling, which they felt was hypocritical given MacAskill&#8217;s claim to modesty.)</p><p>Nor did MacAskill mention that he celebrated the release of his book at an &#8220;<a href="https://time.com/6262810/sam-bankman-fried-effective-altruism-alameda-ftx/">ultra-luxurious vegan restaurant</a> where the tasting menu runs $438 per person with tip, before tax.&#8221; These people boast of being more &#8220;effectively&#8221; altruistic than the rest of us &#8212; they are morally <em>better</em> people &#8212; yet behind the scenes they&#8217;re living it up in private jets, in sumptuous mansions, and at luxurious restaurants.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>Read more: <strong><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-altruism-is-a-welter-of-fraud-lies-exploitation-and-eugenic-fantasies/">Fraud, Lies, Exploitation and Eugenic Fantasies</a>: The multibillion-dollar Effective Altruism movement makes rich people feel good about being rich &#8212; to hell with the bad publicity.</strong></p></div><p>Even more, the umbrella organization of CEA, Effective Ventures, had secretly bought a literal castle in Oxfordshire for a whopping $18.5 million. Most people in the EA community <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221206161107/https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey">only found out about this because</a> I tweeted about the hypocrisy, later comparing EA and its leaders to televangelists who preach one thing while privately living in huge mansions and flying on private jets.</p><p>When asked about this castle, a <em>New Yorker</em> journalist <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/the-reluctant-prophet-of-effective-altruism">summarized their argument</a> as follows: &#8220;The math could work out: it was a canny investment to spend thousands of dollars to recruit the next Sam Bankman-Fried.&#8221; This wasn&#8217;t even the only sumptuous edifice the community bought: there was also a <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pbe8x4AQDqftQoaT5/espr-should-return-the-ftx-funded-chateau">chateau in the Czech Republic</a>, purchased with money from Bankman-Fried.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pw_8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4586bf9-768b-4318-8acd-12ec223eb0fa_3840x2551.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pw_8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4586bf9-768b-4318-8acd-12ec223eb0fa_3840x2551.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pw_8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe4586bf9-768b-4318-8acd-12ec223eb0fa_3840x2551.jpeg 848w, 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MacAskill boasts that he gives away half of his income, yet the organization he cofounded, Effective Ventures, spends nearly $20 million on a palatial estate to host EA parties and conferences.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png" width="612" height="151.4589928057554" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:344,&quot;width&quot;:1390,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:612,&quot;bytes&quot;:99388,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/198149231?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RjRX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F107c7a00-7cfc-4183-8e62-c010cfbe1eb4_1390x344.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221206161107/https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xof7iFB3uh8Kc53bG/why-did-cea-buy-wytham-abbey">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In early 2022, MacAskill shared private messages with Elon Musk, in which he tried to convince Musk to buy Twitter with SBF. Later that year, SBF&#8217;s fraud became public. To this day, I don&#8217;t believe that MacAskill has once said he regrets having fostered a friendship with Musk, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-elon-musk-a-mass-murderer-on-par?utm_source=publication-search">one of the most evil people on Earth</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png" width="1456" height="105" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:105,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:218166,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/198149231?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zu9T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d1c8291-be1f-4ed9-96f1-ba3d160cde47_1836x132.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23112929-elon-musk-text-exhibits-twitter-v-musk/?mode=document">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><h3>EA Leaves Poor People More Hopeless Than Ever</h3><p>EA has had a devastating impact on non-EA animal rights activists, and has left many people in the Global South even more hopeless than they previously were. The first issue is discussed in <em><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-good-it-promises-the-harm-it-does-9780197655702">The Good It Promises, The Harm It Does</a></em>, so I won&#8217;t examine it here. With respect to the second, EA is notably <em>worse</em> than traditional philanthropy &#8212; and traditional philanthropy is very bad.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg" width="239" height="358.1743869209809" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:550,&quot;width&quot;:367,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:239,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iafe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf80b70f-dce7-4c9c-9c4d-732973079fe7_367x550.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">An excellent book co-edited by my friend, Dr. Alice Crary.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The premise of traditional philanthropy is that wealthy (almost always white) people in the Global North should transfer <em>some amount of wealth</em> to the Global South while retaining <em>all the relevant decision-making power</em>. <em>They</em> decide who gets money, how it will be used, where it goes, when it&#8217;s transferred, and so on. <em>They</em> decide if money will be spent building a new school, paving a road, buying books, deworming children, or distributing anti-malarial bed nets.</p><p>This approach is deeply flawed because those in the Global North have no ground-level knowledge of the root causes of poverty in particular regions. They impose a &#8220;one-size fits all&#8221; model that completely ignores the fact that poverty may be caused by different phenomena in different regions (obviously).</p><p>However, at least <em>sometimes</em> traditional philanthropy will transfer both wealth <em>and</em> power to the Global South by funding grassroots organizations run by people with the necessary lived experienced to determine the actual best way to use resources. EA, in contrast, will <em>never do this</em>. That&#8217;s because EA &#8220;evaluates&#8221; charities according to an extremely narrow, impoverished, quantitative metric. If you can&#8217;t precisely <em>calculate</em> how many lives are &#8220;saved&#8221; by an intervention, then that intervention will <em>never ever get funded</em>.</p><p>Consider <a href="https://x.com/KaluluAnthony">Anthony Kalulu</a>, a farmer in one of Uganda&#8217;s poorest regions.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v2HJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb63eeb7-3ffb-4629-ad87-ffbf9aee978f_1652x1246.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v2HJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb63eeb7-3ffb-4629-ad87-ffbf9aee978f_1652x1246.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Having lived there all his life, he knows that what people need is a food processing plant that will distribute crops to ready markets. He&#8217;s requesting several million dollars to build this plant, and repeatedly pleaded with EAs to help. He even asked them to simply retweet his request &#8212; <em>only a single person</em> out of about 100 did, because the rest told him that his grassroots organization, the <a href="https://www.ugandafarm.org/">Uganda Community Farm</a>, isn&#8217;t &#8220;effective.&#8221; And it&#8217;s not &#8220;effective&#8221; because Kalulu has no way of <em>quantifying</em> the exact number of people who will be saved by the food processing plant. This is why he <a href="https://dear-humanity.org/effective-altruism-worse-for-poor/">wrote in a blog post</a> that EA makes him feel even more hopeless than before.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZeUX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F006fe0b5-e93c-408a-acb0-4a6325313d6a_1728x1094.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZeUX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F006fe0b5-e93c-408a-acb0-4a6325313d6a_1728x1094.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://dear-humanity.org/effective-altruism-worse-for-poor/">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><strong>Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 97 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</strong></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3><strong>No One Knows How Many Lives EA has &#8220;Saved&#8221;</strong></h3><p>EAs like to boast that they&#8217;ve saved <a href="https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/mission">150,000 lives thus far</a>. But they never ask how many lives <em>would have been saved</em> if EA had never existed. They love to talk about &#8220;counterfactuals&#8221; (the basis of MacAskill&#8217;s argument for taking lucrative jobs at &#8220;immoral organizations&#8221;), but refuse to ask basic counterfactual questions when assessing the impact of EA &#8212; because doing so would reveal that EA might actually have done more harm than good.</p><p>To <a href="https://x.com/nickcammarata/status/1725933595318268223">quote </a>a former OpenAI employee who, like me, enthusiastically joined the EA community but later fled, &#8220;all the &#8216;good [EA]s&#8217; I know were obviously altruist angels even as kids, ea did nothing for them they were going to try and help the world anyway if it never existed&#8221; (<a href="https://x.com/nickcammarata/status/1725933595318268223">see below</a>). He now considers himself to be &#8220;antiea radicalized.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e4O1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d33f226-b359-449d-bd51-a3b1b338f89d_1194x1380.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e4O1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d33f226-b359-449d-bd51-a3b1b338f89d_1194x1380.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e4O1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d33f226-b359-449d-bd51-a3b1b338f89d_1194x1380.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The implication, which I think is correct, is that you can&#8217;t praise EA for people donating their disposable incomes to charity, as they would have done so anyway. I myself am 100% committed to donating nearly all of my disposable income, and <em>I think EA is complete bullshit</em>.</p><p>He <a href="https://x.com/nickcammarata/status/1725933595318268223">adds</a> that EA hurts the wellbeing of members, guilts people into pursuing &#8220;AI safety&#8221; research, pressures people to work insane hours, makes people less happy and productive than &#8220;if ea never existed,&#8221; and demonizes &#8220;so many wonderful and good hearted people who were trying to be helpful in non-ea-coded ways.&#8221;</p><h3>EA Is Just Capitalism Applied to Ethics</h3><p>Even more, it&#8217;s crucial to note that EAs don&#8217;t actually give a shit about poor people <em>themselves</em>. That is, they don&#8217;t care about anyone as a moral end, as beings who matter for their own sake. The reason is that EA is deeply influenced by utilitarianism &#8212; as Toby Ord <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH2LhSod1M4">notes here</a> &#8212; and utilitarianism cares about other people <em>only insofar as those people contribute to maximizing &#8220;value,&#8221;</em> e.g., pleasure or happiness.</p><p>On the utilitarian view, the entire domain of ethics is reduced to a branch of economics. <strong>Value is quantifiable, people are merely the fungible &#8220;containers&#8221; of value, and ethics is literally nothing more than number-crunching</strong>. If utilitarian EAs were to suddenly find that helping the global poor isn&#8217;t the best way to maximize value, they would no doubt kick the poor into the gutter without a second thought.</p><p>In contrast, my commitment to donating is based on a <em>genuine concern for people as ends in themselves</em>. It&#8217;s because people are ends that I want to help them, not because helping them maximizes some abstract thing called &#8220;value,&#8221; which no one can even define.</p><p>Utilitarianism &#8212; and EA &#8212; is just capitalism in disguise. Capitalists want to maximize profit, whereas utilitarians &#8212; and EAs &#8212; want to maximize &#8220;moral value.&#8221; This parallel isn&#8217;t a coincidence: both emerged at the very same time (latter 19th century) in the very same place (the UK). If you&#8217;re a capitalist who sees human beings as fungible cogs in the machine and you like the idea of maximization as the ultimate goal (&#8220;more, more, more &#8212; always more!&#8221;), then EA will appeal to you.</p><h4>An Example</h4><p>For a startling example of this quantitative, impersonal approach &#8212; morality as mathematics, ethics as capitalism &#8212; consider a prominent EA who <a href="https://x.com/NathanpmYoung/status/2052288834956579293">tweeted this</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>:</p><blockquote><p>People ask me if I like Musk. To me, Musk is too big and far away to like or dislike. He&#8217;s like a Greek deity. To be feared and treated careful. I love some of what he&#8217;s done, detest other bits.</p><p>Like him? Who cares.</p></blockquote><p>What do you mean, <em>who cares? </em>Musk terminated USAID, causing <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext">an extra 14 million deaths</a> between now and 2030. He&#8217;s propped up fascists in Washington, and twice gave a Nazi salute to MAGA supporters. He allowed Grok to spread <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/22/grok-ai-generated-millions-sexualised-images-in-month-research-says">3 million sexualized images of women</a> without their consent, including 23,000 that &#8220;appear to depict children.&#8221; He&#8217;s been accused of <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5">exposing his penis</a> to a SpaceX flight attendant, who SpaceX then paid $250,000 to keep quiet. He begged Jeffrey Epstein to let him visit Epstein Island. He <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter">called a guy</a> trying to help children trapped in a Thailand cage a &#8220;pedo&#8221; without evidence. He routinely spouts sexist, racist, transphobic nonsense on social media. He supports the far-right in Germany and the UK. And so on.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bZCq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d1d730d-4343-443d-b379-db65a2502b7b_1666x1666.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bZCq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d1d730d-4343-443d-b379-db65a2502b7b_1666x1666.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bZCq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d1d730d-4343-443d-b379-db65a2502b7b_1666x1666.webp 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I responded to this EA with stats about the consequences of terminating USAID, and then sardonically asked: &#8220;What are your thoughts about Ted Bundy?&#8221; The EA replied: &#8220;Seems like a footnote compared to how many he will kill/help with AI.&#8221;</p><p>Think about the amorality of this line of reasoning. For utilitarians and capitalists, what matters are the numbers &#8212; and only the numbers. There is nothing <em>intrinsically wrong</em> with any act, including lying, cheating, defrauding, murdering, or even committing a genocide.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> Hence, if Musk were to build an ASI that creates a huge population of &#8220;happy&#8221; digital space brains spread throughout the universe, then <em>overall</em> he will have come out a morally good person.</p><p>That&#8217;s why I brought up <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy">Bundy</a>, who killed perhaps 100 women. But if Bundy had <em>also saved</em> 101 women, utilitarians would have to say he was overall a good person &#8212; all other things being equal. If Hitler had <em>saved</em> 6.5 million Jews, the same atrocious conclusion would follow. Utilitarianism is an &#8220;ethical&#8221; theory for sociopaths.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Consider the philosopher Derek Parfit, who I&#8217;d call the Grandfather of Longtermism. Parfit was greatly influenced by utilitarianism, and even delivered <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtU0pah4R8Q">a talk at an Oxford EA conference</a>. Years back, someone showed him a video in which Hitler danced a little jig after the Nazis overtook Paris. Parfit responded something to the effect of: &#8220;<a href="https://philosophybear.substack.com/p/hitlers-jig-and-two-types-of-people">Well</a>, at least a moment of happiness for someone came out of that great tragedy.&#8221;</p><p>In other words, a scenario in which France was conquered and Hitler <em>didn&#8217;t</em> dance with joy is worse than one in which France was conquered and Hitler <em>did</em> dance. That&#8217;s because the second scenario includes a few extra utils (units of utility, value, or wellbeing) produced by Hitler, thus making it better. For utilitarians, <em>all that matters is the total amount of value</em>, assessed from an impersonal perspective they call &#8220;the point of view of the universe.&#8221;</p></div><p>Even if the <a href="https://fortune.com/2026/04/02/elon-musk-worlds-first-trillionaire-one-implication-of-the-massive-spacex-ipo/">former trillionaire</a> (Musk) were to do &#8220;great good&#8221; in the future (which he won&#8217;t, of course), that doesn&#8217;t somehow &#8220;make up&#8221; for the <em>unforgivable</em> things he&#8217;s already done without compunction &#8212; like murdering 14 million people. <strong>For EAs, everything is transactional. Every person is a means to an end. Ethics is nothing more than a perfunctory calculation. This is a deeply impoverished and extremely dangerous way of thinking about ethics. Yet it underlies the entire project of EA</strong>.</p><p><em>Peter Thiel giving the keynote address at an EA conference:</em></p><div id="youtube2-LYXS6VWETsc" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;LYXS6VWETsc&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;4s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/LYXS6VWETsc?start=4s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><h3>Eugenics and the Destruction of Nature</h3><p>EAs are <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">pretty cozy with eugenics</a>. Some have explicitly defended it, including a <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/PTCw5CJT7cE6Kx9ZR/most-people-endorse-some-form-of-eugenics">prominent member</a> (who, as it happens, has made transphobic remarks targeting me). Others <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">have cited</a> the race science advocate Charles Murray. The most prominent EA aside from SBF and MacAskill, Peter Singer, literally argued in his 1986 book <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Should_the_Baby_Live%3F">Should the Baby Live? The Problem of Handicapped Infants</a> </em>that we should kill infants with cognitive disabilities, in part because they&#8217;re a burden on society.</p><p>MacAskill himself says that to keep the economy roaring, we should use genetic engineering to design super-babies in the laboratory or just replace workers with AGIs (a <a href="https://www.salon.com/2022/08/20/understanding-longtermism-why-this-suddenly-influential-philosophy-is-so/">radical form of eugenics</a>).</p><p>He&#8217;s also literally argued &#8212; using the exact same utilitarian reasoning as Singer &#8212; that our systematic obliteration of the biosphere may be net positive, because most wild animals have lives, he claims, that are &#8220;morally&#8221; worthless. Hence, <em>the fewer wild animals there are, the less total wild-animal suffering</em>. Since wild animals are <em>bringing down</em> the total amount of positive value in the world, it may be overall good that we&#8217;re poisoning the rivers, razing forests, polluting the ocean, and flooding the atmosphere with heat-trapping CO2.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg" width="1024" height="538" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:538,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Deforestation: Meaning, Causes, Effects and Solutions - Click A Tree&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Deforestation: Meaning, Causes, Effects and Solutions - Click A Tree" title="Deforestation: Meaning, Causes, Effects and Solutions - Click A Tree" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yWu_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaca8112-0ad4-438e-9d98-b1985f7ab106_1024x538.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This may be good because just think of all the woodland creatures who died as a result, meaning that they are no longer bringing disvalue into the world by suffering.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The main concern re: climate change, by the way, is that if we keep using up oil, and if civilization collapses, there might not be enough oil remaining to rebuild industrial society. That&#8217;s what MacAskill suggests. Why rebuild industrial society if it collapses? Because it&#8217;s probably necessary to reach the stars, and the stars are where most future value will reside (see &#8220;longtermism&#8221; below).</p><p>MacAskill also says in his book that &#8220;even with fifteen degrees of warming, the heat would not pass lethal limits for crops in most regions.&#8221; (Lol.) Global agriculture would survive, according to him, which <a href="https://thebulletin.org/2022/11/what-longtermism-gets-wrong-about-climate-change/">every expert I spoke to for an article</a> in the <em>Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists </em>described as outrageous nonsense. EAs, in my experience, are happy to accept unjustified claims if they support their narratives.</p><p>Back to eugenics, many EAs are concerned about so-called &#8220;existential risks.&#8221; Some see existential risk mitigation as the most &#8220;effective&#8221; form of &#8220;philanthropy,&#8221; meaning that anything not directed at mitigating existential risk is a waste of resources.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png" width="625" height="236.61387631975867" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:502,&quot;width&quot;:1326,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:625,&quot;bytes&quot;:292155,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/198149231?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Xou!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3608d2df-2c79-4ab9-af62-dbf6b3f67acf_1326x502.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">From Bostrom&#8217;s paper &#8220;<a href="https://existential-risk.com/concept.pdf">Existential Risk Prevention as Global Priority</a>.&#8221; He&#8217;s referring to how much more &#8220;effective&#8221; mitigating existential risk is compared to helping the poor, ending factory farming, and all other <em>non-existential</em> catastrophes in the world.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The guy who introduced the idea of existential risk, Nick Bostrom, founded the Future of Humanity Institute (FHI), which shared office space with the Centre for Effective Altruism (CEA) before FHI was shut down.</p><p>One of the existential risk scenarios that <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">Bostrom highlights</a> is &#8220;dysgenic pressures,&#8221; whereby &#8220;less intelligent&#8221; people outbreed their more intelligent peers. Since building technology that enables us to flee Earth will require intelligence, too many &#8220;unintelligent&#8221; people could pose an existential risk.</p><p>In 2022, I stumbled upon <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260302055814/https://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.96/0441.html">an old email</a> in which Bostrom asserts that &#8220;Blacks are more stupid than whites,&#8221; after which he writes the N-word. Some EAs defended this email, because Bostrom was after all just being honest. This email appears to have played a part in Oxford University terminating the FHI in 2024.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><strong>Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 97 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</strong></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>IQ Worship</h3><p>Along similar lines, EAs worship IQ. Most are IQ realists, which Bryan Caplan calls &#8220;<a href="https://www.econlib.org/archives/2017/04/iq_with_conscie.html">a scary bunch</a>.&#8221; Some internal surveys of the EA community <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/DxfpGi9hwvwLCf5iQ/objections-to-value-alignment-between-effective-altruists">even ask people for their IQ</a>, and Carla Cremer, a former EA, notes that &#8220;the reputation of an EA correlates strongly with his perceived intelligence.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CDan!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F791806a9-6663-4749-9201-cc201793b161_1390x664.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/DxfpGi9hwvwLCf5iQ/objections-to-value-alignment-between-effective-altruists">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In 2023, Cremer revealed that CEA had secretly tested an internal ranking system called &#8220;PELTIV.&#8221; EA members with IQs lower than 100 would get PELTIV points subtracted, while those with IQs above 120 would get them added.</p><p>Note that IQ was developed in the 20th century by white eugenicists who used it, in part, to &#8220;justify&#8221; anti-miscegenation laws, anti-immigration laws, and other racist policies. IQ is a <em>terrible</em> measure of &#8220;intelligence,&#8221; and it encourages hierarchical thinking whereby certain humans are ranked above others along a single, linear, one-dimensional axis. In many ways, it embodies the same highly simplistic mode of thinking found in utilitarianism, according to which the goodness or badness of outcomes can be ranked by how much &#8220;value&#8221; they contain.</p><h3>The Scientology of Silicon Valley: EA Is Run Like a Cult</h3><p>The cultishness of EA is evidenced by the myths they spread about how exceptional their leaders are, their decision to secretly buy a castle, the PELTIV ranking system, and so on. Even EAs themselves worry about the community&#8217;s cultishness. Here&#8217;s what one <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/7zg6pkrL6nQDLHPmk/ea-may-look-like-a-cult-and-it-s-not-just-optics">wrote on the EA Forum</a> (this is worth reading in full):</p><blockquote><p>What if I told you about a group of people calling themselves Effective Altruists (EAs) who wish to spread their movement to every corner of the world. Members of this movement spend a lot of money and energy on converting more people into their ideology (they call it community building). They tend to target young people, especially university students (and increasingly high school students). They give away free books written by their gurus and run fellowship programs. And they will gladly pay all the expenses for newcomers to travel and attend their events so that they can expose them to their ideas.</p><p>EAs are encouraged to consult the doctrine and other movement members about most major life decisions, including what to do for a living (career consultation), how to spend their money (donation advice), and what to do with their spare time (volunteering). After joining the movement, EAs are encouraged to give away 10% or more of their income to support the movement and its projects. It&#8217;s not uncommon for EAs to socialize and live mostly with other EAs (some will get subsidized EA housing). Some EAs want even their romantic partners to be members of the community.</p><p>While they tend to dismiss what&#8217;s considered common sense by normal mainstream society, EAs will easily embrace very weird-sounding ideas once endorsed by the movement and its leaders.</p><p>Many EAs believe that the world as we know it may soon come to an end and that humanity is under existential threat. They believe that most normal people are totally blind to the danger. EAs, on the other hand, have a special role in preventing the apocalypse, and only through incredible efforts can the world be saved. Many of these EAs describe their aspirations in utopian terms, declaring that an ideal world free of aging and death is waiting for us if we take the right actions. To save the world and navigate the future of humanity, EAs often talk about the need to influence governments and public opinion to match their beliefs.</p></blockquote><p>Many EAs are also afraid to publicly criticize the community and its broadly authoritarian structure (see: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201222172238/https://stefanfschubert.com/blog/2020/12/22/legitimate-epistocracy">epistocracy</a>). A group of ~10 EAs, going by ConcernedEAs, published an <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/54vAiSFkYszTWWWv4/doing-ea-better-1">EA Forum article</a> about how the community should be more democratic. They did this anonymously because, as they said, they were worried about losing funding, being ostracized, their career being negatively impacted, etc. &#8212; all for merely expressing views that other EAs, especially those in leadership positions, might disagree with.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png" width="614" height="236.22190201729106" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:534,&quot;width&quot;:1388,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:614,&quot;bytes&quot;:143525,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/198149231?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e3qY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5817ba49-179c-49db-9102-847e19867b48_1388x534.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/54vAiSFkYszTWWWv4/doing-ea-better-1">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In 2021, Cremer and Luke Kemp <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3995225">published an article</a> critical of the techno-utopian ideology of EA. Here&#8217;s how Cremer <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gx7BEkoRbctjkyTme/democratising-risk-or-how-ea-deals-with-critics-1">described the process</a>:</p><blockquote><p>It could be a promising sign for epistemic health that the critiques of leading voices come from early career researchers within the community. Unfortunately, the creation of this paper has not signalled epistemic health. It has been the most emotionally draining paper we have ever written.</p><p>We lost sleep, time, friends, collaborators, and mentors because we disagreed on: whether this work should be published, whether potential EA funders would decide against funding us and the institutions we&#8217;re affiliated with, and whether the authors whose work we critique would be upset. &#8230;</p><p>The EA community prides itself on being able to invite and process criticism. However, warm welcome of criticism was certainly not our experience in writing this paper. &#8230;</p><p>We were told by some that our critique is invalid because the community is already very cognitively diverse and in fact welcomes criticism. They also told us that there is no TUA [techno-utopianism], and if the approach does exist then it certainly isn&#8217;t dominant. It was these same people that then tried to prevent this paper from being published. They did so largely out of fear that publishing might offend key funders who are aligned with the TUA.</p><p>These individuals &#8212; often senior scholars within the field &#8212; told us in private that they were concerned that any critique of central figures in EA would result in an inability to secure funding from EA sources, such as OpenPhilanthropy. We don&#8217;t know if these concerns are warranted. Nonetheless, any field that operates under such a chilling effect is neither free nor fair. Having a handful of wealthy donors and their advisors dictate the evolution of an entire field is bad epistemics at best and corruption at worst.</p><p>The greatest predictor of how negatively a reviewer would react to the paper was their personal identification with EA. Writing a critical piece should not incur negative consequences on one&#8217;s career options, personal life, and social connections in a community that is supposedly great at inviting and accepting criticism.</p><p>Many EAs have privately thanked us for &#8220;standing in the firing line&#8221; because they found the paper valuable to read but would not dare to write it. Some tell us they have independently thought of and agreed with our arguments but would like us not to repeat their name in connection with them. This is not a good sign for any community, never mind one with such a focus on epistemics. If you believe EA is epistemically healthy, you must ask yourself why your fellow members are unwilling to express criticism publicly. We too considered publishing this anonymously. Ultimately, we decided to support a vision of a curious community in which authors should not have to fear their name being associated with a piece that disagrees with current orthodoxy. It is a risk worth taking for all of us.</p></blockquote><p>I myself have been harassed and threatened by EAs for writing my articles. One leading EA sent an editor of mine, their boss, and their boss&#8217; boss a flurry of emails demanding that an article of mine be removed from their website. My editor told me that in all their years of operation, they&#8217;d never experienced anything like it. This wasn&#8217;t the only incident.</p><p>Two EA accounts warned me: &#8220;Better be careful or an EA superhero will break your kneecaps.&#8221; Another anonymous account echoed this on Twitter (below), <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230817151858/https://twitter.com/GmaPole/status/1584879339438764033">adding</a> &#8220;I wish you remained unborn.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jmoq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd16aa16-0c56-4b94-ab73-a215bb34b00c_1186x1320.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This account, created entirely to harass me, includes the URL to my website and lists its location as Germany, where I was living at the time.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_W5z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74841f55-1c52-4e49-a372-912dae34554b_1190x1156.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Yet another account impersonated me, complete with personal information about where I had worked. I also received multiple anonymous emails threatening me, one of which was a death threat. These are just a few examples.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png" width="474" height="322.9627118644068" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:804,&quot;width&quot;:1180,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:474,&quot;bytes&quot;:961783,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/198149231?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddAq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78aa5230-ad22-4c91-ba2d-7c754e3bed9c_1180x804.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Account impersonating me. At the time, my profile picture included me wearing a hat with a whiteboard behind me full of writing. Clearly, they ran that picture through an AI app to make me look older. As I recall, &#8220;parody&#8221; was added later on, after people complained. Note also that my handle is @xriskology, similar to the handle this person used: @xriskologist.</figcaption></figure></div><p>On the EA Forum, numerous EAs argued that I must have a personality disorder or suffer from episodes of psychosis (lolz?). One participant in this discussion, another prominent EA, said they believe I write my articles criticizing EA during episodes of psychosis, and hence if there were some way to predict when I&#8217;ll become psychotic, they can prepare ahead of time to counter my articles!</p><p><em>(An EA at the time wrote me apologizing for the abuse. They told me that they had personally experienced psychosis in the past, and were really hurt by these wild speculations on the EA Forum.)</em></p><p>This is who EA is: a community that markets itself as caring about epistemic humility, but in fact will lash out at anyone who takes a stand against them.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> EAs <em>like the criticisms that they like</em> &#8212; those requiring minor tweaks to components of their framework &#8212; but if you criticize <em>underlying pillars</em> of the framework itself, you better watch out. I became so anxious about these threats that I changed my route home at night while I was in Germany. When I gave a public talk at Oxford in 2023, I spoke to security about not allowing certain EAs into the building due to safety concerns. To this day, I don&#8217;t publicly announce where I&#8217;m traveling &#8212; only where I&#8217;ve been &#8212; because of EA.</p><p><em>Related:</em></p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;d7fab6c8-2e76-4487-8c0c-2490ddb55f38&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;In a previous newsletter article, I briefly mentioned that Karen Hao made a mistake in her otherwise excellent book Empire of AI, which examines the rise of OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman&#8217;s messianic mission to build God-like superintelligence. Basically, Hao used a government document that&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;showDescription&quot;:true,&quot;showImage&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;How Effective Altruists Use Threats and Harassment to Silence Their Critics&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:154677247,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;&#201;mile P. Torres&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;&#201;mile P. Torres (PhD) is a philosopher and historian whose work focuses on the ethics of human extinction and the TESCREAL bundle of ideologies. I do not give any AI company permission to use my articles for LLM training.&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dc418808-1a84-40d3-abac-011d1beb645a_836x836.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:100}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2025-11-28T17:23:05.484Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f20cc2fe-3c6f-4632-96eb-2f29f3b24187_2714x3472.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/how-effective-altruists-use-threats&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:179674079,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:37,&quot;comment_count&quot;:10,&quot;publication_id&quot;:1770554,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V-wX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45359e3f-480d-4c5e-a289-2188c786fb40_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>EA Gave Rise to Longtermism</h3><p>Yet another reason that &#8220;EA is the devil&#8221; is that it gave rise to longtermism. (When people talk about EA in the context of Silicon Valley, they&#8217;re almost always referring to this ideological offshoot.)</p><p>As with EA more generally, longtermism is built on utilitarianism &#8212; specifically, the &#8220;<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/total-view">Total View</a>,&#8221; which says that the more &#8220;value&#8221; there is in the universe as a whole, between now and the heat death, the better the universe will become.</p><p>The Total View yields the <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/repugnant-conclusion/">Repugnant Conclusion</a>, which says that a world full of miserable people<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> would be better than one containing far fewer people with exceptionally wonderful lives. That&#8217;s because, once again, people are just the &#8220;containers&#8221; of value. If you have 1 billion containers with 1 drop of water, you&#8217;d have more total water than if you had 1 million containers each with 999 drops of water. It&#8217;s all about crunching the numbers &#8212; ethics is just a branch of economics.</p><p>MacAskill has explicitly defended the Repugnant Conclusion. He doesn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s all that repugnant. He says we <em>should choose</em> a world full of huge numbers of miserable people over one containing far fewer super-happy people. The Total View also leads him to argue, in <em>What We Owe the Future</em>, that we should colonize space &#8212; no wonder, then, that Musk himself promoted MacAskill&#8217;s book and called longtermism &#8220;a close match for my philosophy.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KzLg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff264fbaa-2afa-4dcd-9a36-df9dfa609548_1226x488.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KzLg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff264fbaa-2afa-4dcd-9a36-df9dfa609548_1226x488.png 848w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Musk, one of the worst people on Earth, endorsing longtermism.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Longtermism is the view that we should be most concerned about how &#8220;well&#8221; the long-term future goes, rather than about how much suffering there is in the world right now. It&#8217;s not that future <em>digital space brains</em> (i.e., value-containers) matter more. It&#8217;s just a numbers game: if we colonize space and build giant computer simulations for digital space brains to live in, there could be much more value in the future than has existed in human history thus far. As MacAskill&#8217;s close colleague Benjamin Todd <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-moral-cowardice-of-leading-effective">writes</a>:</p><blockquote><p>This thesis is often confused with the claim that we shouldn&#8217;t <em>do</em> anything to help people in the present generation. But longtermism is about what most <em>matters </em>&#8212; what we should <em>do</em> about it is a further question. It might turn out that the best way to help those in the future is to improve the lives of people in the present, such as through providing health and education. The difference is that the major <em>reason</em> to help those in the present is to improve the long-term.</p></blockquote><p>Again, people are just means to an end. If &#8220;helping&#8221; current people is the most effective way to influence the far future, then we should <em>exploit them</em> in this way.</p><h3>Why Must the Future Be Digital?</h3><p>Now, you might be asking: why fill the universe with <em>digital</em> space brains (my satirical term) living in giant computer simulations spread throughout our future light cone? Why not biological humans? The answer is that you can cram way more &#8220;<a href="https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/83378274/Toby-Newberry_How-many-lives-does-the-future-hold-libre.pdf?1649336803=&amp;response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DHow_many_lives_does_the_future_hold.pdf&amp;Expires=1779292727&amp;Signature=bGQ09g0yz0X6M-HcFPJhcvihMN~HH0acdr6m6IuGCVw91vnu3ePMawAeR6i2bU91-cauZGQscWX6vpkIROrlu34sha4O9KGFzlVpBczBvABd188uwYlcE7gGvNBqYzLtR1kwfPGh020tMvwU1Vre2db5TgFCLNw6M6EGMdGBarT97TZxl8VMCf3TnSlO-o0zjUAsfoMNfEzO~biC9634nhbUqVyKaIXRvybj6Q3qL00x8NZk4xi5HDZwGlkxID2ZEcXCChvWBCUyEuAcbMZiTr8Cj2-nwDW3ETP4VdFgb5baoyfaCzJYOA5i2k~Cd9czAoGlU8H596O7OvPnoP0AVg__&amp;Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA">digital people</a>&#8221; (their term) into the universe, per volumetric unit of spacetime, than you can biological people. Hence, to maximize value, all future people should be digital.</p><p>But digital people would be wildly different from us. They would take the form of software &#8212; pure information. And since software is immortal, <em>they</em> would be immortal. They could also share bits of their memories, personalities, preferences, and experiences with each other with the metaphorical click of a button. We should thus classify such future people as <em>posthumans</em>.</p><p>Since posthumans could be designed to contain far <em>more</em> &#8220;value&#8221; than biological humans, <strong>the longtermist ideology is inherently pro-extinctionist</strong>. Think about it this way:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>There are several ways to maximize value, in accordance with utilitarianism. One is to increase the total number of value-containers (people) in existence. Another is to increase the &#8220;depth&#8221; of these containers such that each can contain more total &#8220;value.&#8221; Since posthumans could supposedly contain more total &#8220;value,&#8221; posthumanity should replace humanity &#8212; asap. <strong>This is a direct implication of utilitarianism</strong>: <em>our species should die out immediately after creating our posthuman successors</em>, who will then take over the world and eventually colonize the universe.</p></div><p>In fact, some longtermists have <a href="https://philarchive.org/archive/SHIIDO">explicitly argued for this conclusion</a>, though it&#8217;s implicit in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Precipice:_Existential_Risk_and_the_Future_of_Humanity">claims from people like Toby Ord</a> that &#8220;rising to our full potential for flourishing would likely involve us being transformed into something beyond the humanity of today. Remember that evolution has not stopped with humanity.&#8221; He also says that &#8220;forever preserving humanity as it now is may also squander our legacy, relinquishing the greater part of our potential.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bew0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F467cea27-2db0-4518-999c-11fd3256115e_1426x1208.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bew0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F467cea27-2db0-4518-999c-11fd3256115e_1426x1208.png 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">The <a href="https://derekshiller.com">author is an EA</a> who&#8217;s worked for the longtermist organization Rethink Priorities.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Since posthumanity replacing humanity would result in the extinction of <em>Homo sapiens</em>, longtermism is pro-extinctionist.</p><h3>Longtermism Could &#8220;Justify&#8221; Genocide</h3><p>The dangers of longtermism go far beyond the implication that our species should die out. As I&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2023/08/longtermism-threat-humanity">repeatedly argued</a>, any ideology that combines a utopian vision of the future with a utilitarian mode of moral reasoning has all the ingredients necessary to &#8220;justify&#8221; virtually anything for the sake of our &#8220;vast and glorious&#8221; future, to quote Ord.</p><p><em>If the ends justify the means, and the ends are a literal utopia full of digital space brains that never die and live in perfect simulated happiness within their virtual reality worlds</em>, then what&#8217;s off the table for &#8220;protecting&#8221; and &#8220;preserving&#8221; this future &#8212; again, quoting Ord?</p><p>The answer: Nothing.</p><p>Since no act is intrinsically right or wrong according to utilitarianism, there&#8217;s literally <em>nothing</em> one <em>shouldn&#8217;t</em> do to protect, preserve, and realize this utopia.</p><p>The statistician Olle H&#228;ggstr&#246;m, who acknowledges that <a href="https://haggstrom.substack.com/p/those-who-welcome-the-end-of-the">Bostrom has pro-extinctionist &#8220;tendencies,&#8221;</a> worries about this implication of longtermism in his book <em>Here Be Dragons</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> He begins with Bostrom&#8217;s ridiculous claim that increasing the probability of 10^54 digital people existing in the far future by a <em>minuscule</em> amount is the moral equivalent of saving literally billions of actual, living, breathing people. He then writes:</p><blockquote><p>I feel extremely uneasy about the prospect that [the calculations above] might become recognised among politicians and decision-makers as a guide to policy worth taking literally. It is simply too reminiscent of the old saying &#8220;If you want to make an omelette, you must be willing to break a few eggs,&#8221; which has typically been used to explain that a bit of genocide or so might be a good thing, if it can contribute to the goal of creating a future utopia. Imagine a situation where the head of the CIA explains to the US president that they have credible evidence that somewhere in Germany, there is a lunatic who is working on a doomsday weapon and intends to use it to wipe out humanity, and that this lunatic has a one-in-a-million chance of succeeding. They have no further information on the identity or whereabouts of this lunatic. If the president has taken Bostrom&#8217;s argument to heart, and if he knows how to do the arithmetic, he may conclude that it is worthwhile conducting a full-scale nuclear assault on Germany to kill every single person within its borders.</p></blockquote><p>This is yet another reason I&#8217;ve worried about my personal safety. From the longtermist view, critics like me aren&#8217;t just minor annoyances. We are profoundly immoral people, standing in the way of &#8220;astronomical&#8221; amounts of future value in a cosmic utopia. For utilitarians, murder is <em>morally right</em> if it leads to overall better outcomes. Hence, if they come to believe that murdering me would increase the probability of utopia being realized &#8212; even by a <em>teeny-tiny amount</em> &#8212; then they have a moral <em>obligation</em> to murder me. Utilitarianism is scary, and as Steven Pinker (ugh) points out, utopianism contains within it a particularly insidious kind of utilitarian reasoning:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png" width="615" height="198.32247557003257" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/be888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:396,&quot;width&quot;:1228,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:615,&quot;bytes&quot;:150339,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/198149231?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iasC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe888c42-c0fb-45f7-9aac-e2bc75f42601_1228x396.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">From <em>The Better Angels of Our Nature</em>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>These concerns aren&#8217;t merely hypothetical. In 2023, Eliezer Yudkowsky &#8212; a major figure within the EA-longtermist community &#8212; <a href="https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/">argued</a> that states should be willing to engage in military strikes to prevent misaligned ASI from being built. He said they should do this even at the risk of triggering a thermonuclear war. The reasoning is that thermonuclear war probably wouldn&#8217;t foreclose what he calls our &#8220;glorious transhumanist future,&#8221; whereas misaligned ASI supposedly would. When asked on Twitter, &#8220;How many people are allowed to die to prevent [misaligned] AGI?,&#8221; he said basically everyone on Earth should be allowed to perish. So long as there are enough people to rebuild industrial capitalism, then &#8220;there&#8217;s still a chance of reaching the stars someday.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lBin!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lBin!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lBin!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lBin!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lBin!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lBin!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg" width="534" height="387.1920251836306" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ce07d294-69c0-49e7-91d2-64846de998af_953x691.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:691,&quot;width&quot;:953,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:534,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;When asked &#8220;How many people are allowed to die to prevent AGI?,&#8221; Yudkowsky thus replied:\n\nThere should be enough survivors on Earth in close contact to form a viable reproductive population, with room to spare, and they should have a sustainable food supply. So long as that&#8217;s true, there&#8217;s still a chance of reaching the stars someday.\n\n&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When asked &#8220;How many people are allowed to die to prevent AGI?,&#8221; Yudkowsky thus replied:\n\nThere should be enough survivors on Earth in close contact to form a viable reproductive population, with room to spare, and they should have a sustainable food supply. So long as that&#8217;s true, there&#8217;s still a chance of reaching the stars someday.\n\n&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="When asked &#8220;How many people are allowed to die to prevent AGI?,&#8221; Yudkowsky thus replied:

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If his views are implemented, they could have catastrophic consequences for humanity. Yet, even if we avoid extinction from advanced AI, Yudkowsky imagines a future in which <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dear-bernie-sanders-neil-degrasse">our species ceases to exist</a>, as <em>Homo sapiens</em> will be replaced by digital posthumans living in computer simulations.</p><p>Longtermism is also why Nick Beckstead argued that we should prioritize saving the lives of people in rich countries over those in poor countries. I wouldn&#8217;t normally quote a PhD dissertation, but it&#8217;s been repeatedly cited within EA circles as a work of brilliance. It&#8217;s posted <a href="https://80000hours.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Beckstead-Nick-On-the-Overwhelming-Importance-of-Shaping-the-Far-Future-better-formatting.pdf">on the 80,000 Hours website</a>. Toby Ord lists it as &#8220;further reading&#8221; in <em>The Precipice</em>, says he &#8220;builds on&#8221; Beckstead&#8217;s dissertation, and calls it &#8220;one of the best texts on existential risk.&#8221; To <a href="https://80000hours.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Beckstead-Nick-On-the-Overwhelming-Importance-of-Shaping-the-Far-Future-better-formatting.pdf">quote</a> Beckstead in full:</p><blockquote><p>Saving lives in poor countries may have significantly smaller ripple effects than saving and improving lives in rich countries. Why? Richer countries have substantially more innovation, and their workers are much more economically productive. By ordinary standards &#8212; at least by ordinary enlightened humanitarian standards &#8212; saving and improving lives in rich countries is about equally as important as saving and improving lives in poor countries, provided lives are improved by roughly comparable amounts. But it now seems more plausible to me that saving a life in a rich country is substantially more important than saving a life in a poor country, other things being equal.</p></blockquote><p>This makes perfectly good sense on the longtermist view. People don&#8217;t matter in and of themselves. If letting poor people die is the best way to increase &#8220;value&#8221; elsewhere in the universe at some later point, then <em>of course</em> one should do this &#8212; other things being equal. MacAskill&#8217;s collaborator Hilary Greaves <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1jMlb8E08k&amp;t=148s">says the exact same thing</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I just want to know, as an empirical matter of fact, in which cause area would I be best advised to spend my resources, insofar as my aim is doing the most good &#8212; improving the world by the most that I can, given that resource constraint. And, at the moment, many people think the answer to that is, for example, global health and poverty interventions. And there&#8217;s a clear reason why you think that might be the case: in a world with massive global inequality, given that a given amount of money improves people&#8217;s well-being by a lot more when they&#8217;re poor than it does when somebody&#8217;s already rich, there&#8217;s a clear place for transferring resources from the affluent Western world to the global poor. But longtermist lines of thought suggest that something else may be better still.</p><p>There are a number of candidates for potentially very high-value longtermist interventions. I should say the case for thinking they are very high value is not completely clear-cut, or perhaps &#8212; I think one of them actually is quite clear cut, and then a lot of others are much less clear-cut. The most clear-cut one I think is reducing risks of premature human extinction.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p></blockquote><p>To be clear, what she means by &#8220;human extinction&#8221; is not what you think. In a paper with MacAskill, she <a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/60794/chapter/530063399">writes</a>:</p><blockquote><p>We will use &#8220;human&#8221; to refer both to <em>Homo sapiens</em> and to whatever descendants with at least comparable moral status we may have, even if those descendants are a different species, and even if they are non-biological.</p></blockquote><p>This is the <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11229-025-05094-4">Broad Definition</a> of &#8220;human&#8221; and &#8220;humanity,&#8221; in contrast to the Narrow Definition, which identifies these terms with <em>our species</em>. What matters to longtermists like her is that the universe is flooded with digital space brains that maximize &#8220;value.&#8221; Our species&#8217; survival matters only insofar as it&#8217;s necessary to create these digital posthumans. On her definition of &#8220;human,&#8221; our species could literally die out next year without &#8220;human extinction&#8221; having happened. So long as we&#8217;re replaced by posthumans, then &#8220;humanity&#8221; will persist and &#8220;extinction&#8221; won&#8217;t have happened.</p><p>Don&#8217;t be fooled by their language games: just as EAs only care about poor people insofar as alleviating global poverty will increase total value, they only care about the survival of our species <em>until</em> the posthuman era begins.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><strong>Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 97 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</strong></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>EA Played an Integral Role in Accelerating the AGI Race</h3><p>Many EAs are freaked out about AGI being just around the corner, yet the EA community &#8212; in particular, its longtermist arm &#8212; played a pivotal role in launching, sustaining, and accelerating the race to build god-like superintelligence.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/RichardMCNgo/status/2055991804319658273&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The biggest effect that EA has had on the world is empowering Anthropic (via narratives, funding and talent).\n\nWhether good or bad, that&#8217;s so different from EAs&#8217; anticipated paths to impact that it indicates a massive blind spot.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;RichardMCNgo&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Richard Ngo&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1767420324487090176/EofNUGW2_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-17T12:40:19.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:23,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:20,&quot;like_count&quot;:545,&quot;impression_count&quot;:40790,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Open Philanthropy (now Coefficient Giving), one of the main EA grant-making organizations, funded both OpenAI and Anthropic. Anthropic also received <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ftx-owned-anthropic-solana-spacex-175433104.html">half a billion dollars from SBF&#8217;s FTX</a>. The FTX Future Fund, as it happens, was run by Beckstead.</p><p>The EA career advice organization 80,000 Hours, cofounded by MacAskill and Benjamin Todd, has repeatedly told EAs to pursue AGI research instead of other careers. It <a href="https://80000hours.org/career-reviews/">lists AI &#8220;safety&#8221; research as</a> one of the best ways to maximize one&#8217;s &#8220;positive&#8221; impact in the world. Altman himself is a &#8220;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/technology/sam-altman-open-ai-chatgpt.html">product</a>&#8221; of the EA movement, and Anthropic is full of EA-longtermists like Dario Amodei, Holden Karnofsky, and the hardcore utilitarian Amanda Askell.</p><p>Thanks to EA, the AGI race is barreling full-steam ahead, causing immeasurable harms in the process: AI psychosis; spreading disinformation; generating deepfakes; <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5870623">undermining of key civic institutions</a> like universities, the rule of law, and the free press, enabling mass surveillance, etc. AI is destroying society in realtime, and for what? A cosmic posthuman utopia, as envisioned by longtermists.</p><p>Utopia justifies anything and forgives everything. But don&#8217;t be fooled: the utopia that EA longtermists are trying to create is one in which <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">our species will be systematically sidelined, marginalized, disempowered, and eventually eliminated</a>. If you think the creation of AI has been bad for society, blame the EA movement and its billionaire mega-donors.</p><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>These are just a few reasons to think the EA community is rotten. I have a much longer discussion of this in my forthcoming book, <em>Will Humanity Survive?</em>, which argues that this worldview poses a dire threat to humanity.</p><p>EA is the devil, and the world would have been better without it. Unfortunately, we must now pick up the pieces and try to undo the damage it&#8217;s done.</p><div><hr></div><p>Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz, the main funder of Open Philanthropy, on regretting his role in EA:</p><div class="bluesky-wrap outer" style="height: auto; display: flex; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;" data-attrs="{&quot;postId&quot;:&quot;3mkqv6a5qnk2t&quot;,&quot;authorDid&quot;:&quot;did:plc:z7oad4td5k4tfb4dttzjym7r&quot;,&quot;authorName&quot;:&quot;Dustin Moskovitz&quot;,&quot;authorHandle&quot;:&quot;moskov.goodventures.org&quot;,&quot;authorAvatarUrl&quot;:&quot;https://cdn.bsky.app/img/avatar/plain/did:plc:z7oad4td5k4tfb4dttzjym7r/bafkreiapds4x6n2sobfyijxfnel5dvcxbzycvrwa7trogzz62o5lkhc7y4&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Yes it&#8217;s true, I made a lot of mistakes and trusted a lot of the wrong people. If you follow me here you&#8217;ll find I regularly talk about exactly that. I could have done it better. No disagreement there.&quot;,&quot;createdAt&quot;:&quot;2026-05-01T00:37:16.391Z&quot;,&quot;uri&quot;:&quot;at://did:plc:z7oad4td5k4tfb4dttzjym7r/app.bsky.feed.post/3mkqv6a5qnk2t&quot;,&quot;imageUrls&quot;:[]}" data-component-name="BlueskyCreateBlueskyEmbed"><iframe id="bluesky-3mkqv6a5qnk2t" data-bluesky-id="2605950141017609" src="https://embed.bsky.app/embed/did:plc:z7oad4td5k4tfb4dttzjym7r/app.bsky.feed.post/3mkqv6a5qnk2t?id=2605950141017609" width="100%" style="display: block; flex-grow: 1; max-width: 600px;" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe></div><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A bunch of EAs still work there, as it happens. I have no idea if they were involved in insider trading, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am not naming this person here because I don&#8217;t want to make it about <em>them</em>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That&#8217;s why SBF felt &#8220;justified&#8221; in defrauding his customers: it was for the greater cosmic good. <em>Not</em> defrauding them would have been immoral, on his utilitarian view</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Or, the other response EAs have to criticisms is to simply ignore them. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That is, unhappy people who are not <em>so unhappy</em> that they would prefer to have never existed. So long as a life has net-positive amounts of value, then it contributes to the overall total value in the world.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that H&#228;ggstr&#246;m is otherwise sympathetic with longtermism. Here&#8217;s what he writes about Bostrom: &#8220;among thinkers with at least some successionist tendencies, one might even include Nick Bostrom,&#8221; where &#8220;successionist&#8221; is synonymous with &#8220;pro-extinctionist.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Both this quote and the quote from Beckstead exemplify a conclusion that Greaves and MacAskill came to in the 2019 draft of their paper &#8220;The Case for Strong Longtermism.&#8221; They write that &#8220;<strong>for the purposes of evaluating actions, we can in the first instance often </strong><em><strong>simply ignore</strong></em><strong> all the effects contained in the first 100 (or even 1,000) years</strong>, focussing primarily on the further-future effects. Short-run effects act as little more than tie-breakers.&#8221; Since alleviating global poverty is a near-term goal, <strong>it should be ignored in favor of the far future</strong>. As I&#8217;ve summarized the central idea of longtermism: <em><strong>Won&#8217;t someone think of all the digital unborn?</strong></em> Sorry poor people!</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The ASI Extinction Debate Is the Opposite of What You Think]]></title><description><![CDATA[The media needs to wake up, fast. (3,100 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-asi-extinction-debate-is-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-asi-extinction-debate-is-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:38:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eae0f33b-284e-4c0b-a710-1112ae4feff3_2560x1646.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is part 1 of a new series: &#8220;<strong>Understanding the ASI Existential Risk Debate</strong>.&#8221; For Part 2, go <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-safety-explained">here</a>.</em></p><div><hr></div><p><em>Every claim in this article has been documented and substantiated in other articles of mine, complete with citations. If you find yourself skeptical of some particular claim about these ideologies, or about specific people, either read my articles or ask me about it in the comments section and I&#8217;ll share the relevant citation.</em></p><p>I&#8217;d like to answer, in writing, two questions that journalists have been asking me the past few days:</p><ul><li><p>Do people like Jacob Coxon, Dario Amodei, and Sam Altman sincerely believe that ASI (artificial superintelligence) could bring about human extinction?</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Why won&#8217;t they just slow down? As David Sacks <a href="https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2098973625252708460">said on X</a>, they don&#8217;t need the government to voluntarily slow down to, you know, not kill everyone on Earth.</p></li></ul><h3>The Whole Discourse Is Fucked</h3><p>The first point I&#8217;d make is that the whole public conversation about &#8220;human extinction&#8221; is fundamentally misleading. When people who espouse the Silicon Valley worldview &#8212; which is to say, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">the TESCREAL worldview</a> &#8212; talk about &#8220;human extinction,&#8221; they don&#8217;t mean what the overwhelming majority of people think they mean.</p><p>Most people interpret this as saying: We must save the human species &#8212; biological humans. That&#8217;s not what they mean. If <em>our species</em> were to die out, this would constitute <em>terminal extinction</em>. But there&#8217;s a different kind of extinction that the TESCREALists actually care about: final extinction, whereby we die out <em>and</em> leave behind no &#8220;worthy&#8221; posthuman successors to take our place. (When I spent 10 years in the TESCREAL movement becoming the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/QA9qefK7CbzBfRczY/the-25-researchers-who-have-published-the-largest-number-of">6th most-published contributor</a> to the academic literature on existential risks, every time I wrote &#8220;human extinction&#8221; I <em>meant </em>&#8220;final human extinction.&#8221;)</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Terminal extinction</strong>: our species disappears entirely and forever, full stop. (This is what I care about avoiding today, after leaving the TESCREAL movement.)</p><p><strong>Final Extinction</strong>: our species disappears entirely and forever without leaving behind any &#8220;worthy&#8221; posthuman successors. (This is what they care about avoiding.)</p></div><p>This distinction really, really matters. There&#8217;s a massive difference, they believe, between us dying out and leaving behind successors, and us disappearing without doing so.</p><p>The whole point of <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">the Silicon Valley worldview</a> is to build an ASI that will bring about a cosmic posthuman utopia. They want it to transform us into digital posthumans who can then colonize the universe. (Some just want ASI to simply replace us like an invasive species let loose on an island. See <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">this article</a> for details.)</p><p>The <em>only</em> type of extinction that would <em>permanently prevent</em> the creation of a cosmic posthuman utopia is <em>final extinction</em>. The <em>only</em> reason we should avoid terminal extinction &#8212; the disappearance of our species &#8212; is that if terminal extinction were to happen tomorrow, it would <em>entail</em> final extinction.</p><p>But if terminal extinction were to happen <em>after</em> &#8220;worthy&#8221; digital posthumans arrive, then it <em>wouldn&#8217;t</em> entail final extinction. Since final extinction is the only way a cosmic utopia would be permanently expunged, TESCREALists care about terminal extinction <em>only insofar as</em> it would entail final extinction.</p><p>Once posthumanity is here, who gives a shit about what happens to our species? As I write in great detail <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">here</a>, many of these people hold the &#8220;replacement view&#8221; (also called &#8220;pro-extinctionism&#8221;), according to which our species <em>should</em> die out once posthumanity arrives.</p><p>To emphasize, <em>many, many hold this view</em>. Yudkowsky <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">holds this view</a>. So does <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">Sam Altman</a>, Larry Page, and Gil Verdon &#8212; and so on, and so forth. Using my terminology from above, what this amounts to is that <em>these people want terminal extinction without final extinction</em> &#8212; which is just to say, they want our species to stick around long enough to create or become our posthuman successors, and then to kick the bucket.</p><p>There are two reasons for this: (1) once posthumans rule and run the world, <em>Homo sapiens</em> will become obsolete and irrelevant in every respect: technologically, scientifically, economically, and even politically. We will serve literally no purpose. (2) Even worse, we will continue to suck up resources that our &#8220;superior&#8221; posthuman successors could use &#8220;more efficiently&#8221; &#8212; for things like covering Earth in data centers (which <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/11/03/inside-the-data-centers-that-train-ai-and-drain-the-electrical-grid">Altman says is likely</a>), building a Dyson swarm around the sun (as Demis Hassabis <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-increasingly-powerful-ai-models">says</a> will happen starting in the early 2030s), and spreading the light of digital consciousness to the stars (which all of them endorse).</p><p>There may even be &#8220;ethical&#8221; reasons for getting rid of us. As Yudkowsky <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">declares</a>, &#8220;Are we, like, kind of too sad in some ways&#8221; to keep around? He adds that once posthumanity is here, continuing to create biological humans would be like someone right now intentionally deciding to have a child with disabilities. (Yes, this is outrageously ableist. But then again, he is a eugenicist of the most radical kind.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>)</p><p>***</p><p>So, this is why the conversation about &#8220;human extinction&#8221; is completely fucked. Making matters worse, the TESCREAL academic literature <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">explicitly defines</a> &#8220;human&#8221; as our species <em>plus</em> whatever posthuman successors we might have. This immediately implies that our species could completely die out <em>next year without &#8220;human extinction&#8221; </em>having happened. As long as there are posthumans to take our place, &#8220;humanity&#8221; will persist and &#8220;human extinction&#8221; will have been avoided. When they talk about &#8220;preserving humanity,&#8221; they really mean &#8220;securing posthumanity.&#8221;</p><p>What does this all mean? That if the TESCREAL extremists with their bizarre Silicon Valley fantasies about a cosmic posthuman utopia were to <em>succeed</em> in building an ASI that&#8217;s &#8220;aligned&#8221; with the values of TESCREALism &#8212; and that&#8217;s their goal &#8212; then <em>human extinction would almost certainly result</em>, because we&#8217;d be pushed out of existence by digital posthumans and ASI, exactly as Altman predicts.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Amodei <a href="https://darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology">presents this more gently</a>: he talks about ASI radically augmenting our cognition, extending lifespans, and enabling us to &#8220;transcend our biology&#8221; through mind-uploading. But that&#8217;s essentially no different from Altman&#8217;s vision. Here&#8217;s what Holly Elmore, who has personally known people at Anthropic, says about this:</p><p><em>With EAs, they were so interested in superintelligence and a lot of the people who cared about AI safety were there because initially they wanted AI to do something like usher in heaven through the Singularity, and they were trying to make sure that that would happen instead of a bad outcome that could happen with superintelligence. &#8230;</em></p><p><em>Many people at Anthropic believe that they might be making the next species to succeed us. That maybe humans don<span>&#8217;</span>t live after that, and so it<span>&#8217;</span>s really important to give Claude good values, because of that, because we need to make our own values persist.</em></p></div><p>Despite their screams about &#8220;avoiding human extinction&#8221; if ASI is &#8220;misaligned,&#8221; most of them actually <em>advocate for</em> human extinction, where &#8220;human&#8221; here specifically means &#8220;our species.&#8221; Put another way: if what one cares about is avoiding terminal extinction &#8212; and I do! &#8212; then these people are <em>pro-extinctionists</em>. (My view, to be clear, is that our biological species is what matters, for reasons I&#8217;ve outlined elsewhere.)</p><p><strong>The media needs to understand this, fast</strong>. What the TESCREAL doomers are worried about is an ASI that wipes out our species, <em>thus foreclosing the possibility of</em> us becoming or creating &#8220;worthy&#8221; successors: posthumans. What they want is an ASI that enables us to become or create &#8220;worthy&#8221; successors that <em>usurp humanity</em>.</p><p>In the first case, the outcome would be final extinction (and hence terminal extinction, since final extinction <em>entails</em> terminal extinction). In the second case, the outcome would be terminal extinction but <em>not</em> final extinction. Once again, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">the goal for many if not most of them</a> is <em>terminal without final extinction</em>.</p><h3>Do They Sincerely Believe?</h3><p>Now we can be more precise with the first question: do Coxon, Amodei, Altman, and the others sincerely believe that &#8220;misaligned&#8221; ASI could bring about <em>final</em> human extinction?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> Or are they just using extinction worries to further concentrate power: &#8220;We&#8217;re building this thing that could kill everyone (and erase utopia), and we hold the only solution, so give us more money and power!&#8221;</p><p>These are not mutually exclusive! I spent years in the TESCREAL movement, and can confirm that everyone is genuinely scared shitless about the possibility of a misaligned ASI murdering everyone. They aren&#8217;t lying when they say that an existential catastrophe caused by ASI is a real possibility.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Note that, because these people hold a &#8220;further-loss view&#8221; in the ethics of human extinction (see <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/further-loss-views">here</a> for explanation), they believe the worst part of our extinction by far <em>wouldn&#8217;t</em> be the death of 8.2 billion people. Rather, the worst part of our collective demise is that it would foreclose the realization of literally &#8220;astronomical&#8221; amounts of future value if we were to create an &#8220;aligned&#8221; ASI, replace humanity with &#8220;worthy&#8221; posthumans, colonize the universe, and build &#8220;planet-sized&#8221; computers full of trillions of digital posthumans. As Peter Singer, Matthew Wage, and the cofounder of longtermism <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/tXoE6wrEQv7GoDivb/preventing-human-extinction">write</a>:</p><p><em>One very bad thing about [final] human extinction would be that billions of people would likely die painful deaths. But in our view, this is, by far, not the worst thing about human extinction. The worst thing about human extinction is that there would be no future generations.</em></p></div><p>That said, I have no doubt that many AI CEOs realize the &#8220;extinction risk&#8221; narrative <em>also</em> gives them more power. And that&#8217;s what they want. Longtermists have <a href="https://www.salon.com/2022/09/10/selling-longtermism-how-pr-and-marketing-drive-a-controversial-new-movement/">literally talked about</a> trying to acquire the greatest possible fraction of the world&#8217;s wealth and power.</p><p>These people are, essentially, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-transhumanism-a-religion">religious extremists</a>: they believe <em>fervently</em> in their vision of the future; they believe that literally &#8220;astronomical&#8221; amounts of value hang in the balance re: getting ASI right; they believe they have special access to fundamental &#8220;truths&#8221; about what the future ought to look like; they think the masses are too stupid to understand the stakes, and hence that democratic input from the rest of humanity is unnecessary and irrelevant.</p><p>This is one of the dangers of worshiping &#8220;rationality.&#8221; Those who see themselves as having superior rationality assume they have a fully objective &#8220;view from nowhere.&#8221; It&#8217;s not <em>a</em> point of view, it&#8217;s <em>the</em> point of view of objective truth, so to speak. Why do you need to ask people in India, Nigeria, China, Bolivia, etc. what the future should be like when you can clearly see what it should look like from your special, objective view from nowhere?</p><p>Because they believe that realizing a cosmic posthuman utopia is so important, they will stop at nothing to acquire as much wealth and power as possible to ensure this comes to pass. And warning about &#8220;ASI extinction risk&#8221; helps them acquire the wealth and power they so desperately want, for what they see as fundamentally ethical (utilitarian) reasons (&#8220;maximize value in the cosmos!&#8221;).</p><p>Do not underestimate how power-hungry these people are. As someone who spent a decade in the TESCREAL movement, I can personally attest to many conversations behind closed doors about how to do this!</p><h3>Why Not Stop?</h3><p>If the AI CEOs think that misaligned ASI might kill everyone and, in the process, permanently erase our cosmic posthuman future, why don&#8217;t they just stop? Why continue building ASI?</p><p>There are several reasons. First, many of these people suffer from extreme death anxiety. They think that if we build an ASI that <em>is</em> &#8220;aligned,&#8221; it will grant them eternal life, enabling them to upload their minds to computers, etc. This is one reason.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/JimDMiller/status/1737274849838399809&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@danfaggella</span> High expected value. It probably kills me, but a small chance I get to live a long time in utopia which I think would more than make up for the extra suffering risk.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;JimDMiller&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;James Miller&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1027307309637062656/p-QOKMEH_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-12-20T00:52:55.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1,&quot;like_count&quot;:22,&quot;impression_count&quot;:696,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Second, they all love <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/expected-value">expected value (EV) theory</a>. Given the supposed &#8220;astronomical&#8221; value of cosmic utopia, even a relatively <em>high</em> probability of total annihilation in the future could <em>still justify</em> moving forward. Imagine there&#8217;s a 20% chance of your plane going down and you dying. (This is Amodei&#8217;s estimate of final extinction in the near future from misaligned ASI.) Now imagine that if it <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> go down, you get to become an immortal super-being who literally owns a galaxy forever in the literal heavens with all your best friends. The immense &#8220;value&#8221; of this positive outcome makes an 80% chance of <em>surviving</em> worth taking.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Nick Bostrom himself &#8212; a TESCREAList &#8212; <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/optimal.pdf">recently argued</a> that we should proceed with ASI even if there&#8217;s up to a 97% chance of universal death, given the (totally unfounded) assumption that in the 3% case, the aligned ASI would grant everyone more than a millennium of extra life.</p></div><p>Third, you have to understand how these people define an &#8220;existential risk&#8221; or &#8220;existential catastrophe.&#8221; Introduced <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">specifically in the context of libertarian transhumanism</a>, it refers to any event that would permanently prevent us from creating a cosmic posthuman utopia. Final human extinction is the most obvious type of existential risk/catastrophe. But there are an infinite number of existential catastrophes in which our species, <em>Homo sapiens</em>, survives.</p><p>To illustrate: imagine that we somehow establish world peace. Nuclear nations abolish their arsenals. There are no more wars, climate change is reversed, and the ecological situation is radically improved. All diseases are cured, and people live wonderful lives into their late 90s. Loneliness disappears, everyone is happy, and we all live in sustainable eco-technological villages amid meadows and gardens watching the sunset every night. After 1 billion years of this, we collectively decide to &#8220;die with dignity&#8221; by allowing our species to fade away as the sun becomes a Red Dwarf that renders Earth uninhabitable. Despite a rocky start to civilizational history, everyone around the world is at peace with how well our story turned out.</p><p>This would be an existential catastrophe whose badness is on par with final human extinction next year in some kind of devastating bloodbath. Why?</p><p>Because in both cases we will have failed to realize more than a <em>teeny-tiny fraction</em> of all the cosmic &#8220;value&#8221; that could have otherwise existed within our future light cone. And it&#8217;s the realization of this future &#8220;value&#8221; that ultimately matters &#8212; value for whom? That&#8217;s the wrong question, they&#8217;d say. This &#8220;value&#8221; is just intrinsically valuable, from &#8220;<a href="https://www.utilitarianism.com/view-universe.pdf">the point of view of the universe</a>.&#8221; The more &#8220;value&#8221; the universe contains across space and time, the better it becomes, full stop. (If you find this unsatisfying, then join the club!)</p><p>This is the real reason the AI companies won&#8217;t stop: ASI is almost certainly <em>necessary</em> to create a cosmic posthuman utopia. As Bostrom puts it, &#8220;all the plausible paths to a <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/utopia">really great future</a> involve the development of machine superintelligence at some point.&#8221;</p><p>You&#8217;ll hear the AI companies give different reasons like:</p><ol><li><p>We can&#8217;t stop because we&#8217;re in a race with other US companies. These other companies are less responsible than us. If they reach the ASI finish line first, we might all die (final extinction). If <em>we</em> reach it first, then at least we have a chance.</p></li><li><p>We can&#8217;t stop because we&#8217;re in a race with Chinese companies. If China wins, then it will establish a global authoritarian communist state.</p></li></ol><p>But think about what underlies these excuses. Both are reducible to the TESCREAL goal of creating utopia.</p><p>With respect to (1), the companies are saying that if another, less responsible company creates ASI first, it will probably be misaligned, and misaligned ASI would be very, very bad <em>because it would destroy utopia</em>.</p><p>With respect to (2), the companies are saying that if China were to build an ASI aligned with its political ideology, this would also <em>prevent the realization of the utopian TESCREAL worldview</em>. Would China proceed to reengineer humans to create a new species of digital posthumans, who then go out and plunder the universe&#8217;s vast resources like a good utilitarian and capitalist? Maybe not &#8212; probably not. No one in China, so far as I know, espouses the TESCREAL worldview. Their goals are different, and that poses a threat to the TESCREAL movement.</p><p>The ultimate reason these companies won&#8217;t stop is because ASI is believed to be necessary to create utopia, and these people desperately want utopia <em>as soon as possible</em>. Even the doomiest doomers want ASI &#8212; specifically, &#8220;aligned&#8221; ASI &#8212; as soon as possible. As Yudkowsky&#8217;s Machine Intelligence Research Institute <a href="https://intelligence.org/2024/05/29/miri-2024-communications-strategy/">puts it</a>, borrowing the language of longtermism,</p><blockquote><p>we remain committed to the idea that failing to build smarter-than-human systems someday would be tragic and would squander a great deal of potential [i.e., posthumans living in computer simulations<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>]. We want humanity to build those systems, but only once we know how to do so safely.</p></blockquote><p>***</p><p>This is why I have been shouting for years that, to successfully stop the ASI race, <strong>we need to address the underlying ideological drivers that are pushing it forward</strong>. So long as those drivers remain in place, influential and powerful, championed by power-hungry billionaire oligarchs, the ASI race will move forward.</p><p>The question of &#8220;pausing&#8221; or &#8220;slowing down&#8221; the race specifically concerns the race between AI capabilities research and AI safety research. The former aims to build an actual ASI, while the latter aims to ensure that it&#8217;s &#8220;aligned&#8221; with the TESCREAL worldview. The point of a slow-down would be to hit the breaks on capabilities research so that safety research can catch up, because this is how they maximize the probability that ASI is going to help us realize a cosmic posthuman utopia.</p><p>This <em>isn&#8217;t about not building ASI</em>. That would be existentially catastrophic. And as I argued above &#8212; and explain in immense detail <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">here</a> &#8212; if these TESCREAL extremists succeed in building an &#8220;aligned-with-TESCREALism&#8221; ASI, the likely outcome would be terminal extinction: the expungement of our species.</p><p><strong>If there </strong><em><strong>is</strong></em><strong> an extinction risk here, it arises from the </strong><em><strong>successful realization of the TESCREAL vision</strong></em>. This is what everyone is missing.</p><p>When these people warn about &#8220;human extinction,&#8221; they&#8217;re talking about <em>final</em> human extinction, whereby we don&#8217;t get to create or become &#8220;worthy&#8221; posthumans <em>who will then replace our species</em>. The probable outcome of ASI creating a new species of posthumans is that our species will be sidelined, marginalized, disempowered, and ultimately eliminated. As Ray Kurzweil <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/meet-the-radical-silicon-valley-pro">once put it</a>, if you choose not to become posthuman &#8220;you won&#8217;t be around for very long to influence the debate.&#8221;</p><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>So, TESCREAL folks really are worried about ASI causing final extinction. But they also no doubt understand that shouting about &#8220;extinction risk&#8221; will increase their power to control the situation &#8212; to control, ultimately, <em>how the entire future of (post)humanity unfolds in the cosmos</em>.</p><p>And they won&#8217;t stop trying to build ASI because they think it&#8217;s necessary to realize their techno-utopian fantasies. At most, they&#8217;ll slow down a bit to let safety research catch up, where the central focus of &#8220;AI safety&#8221; is to guarantee a cosmic utopia rather than total annihilation (where a cosmic utopia would probably mean the disempowerment and elimination of our species).</p><p>Finally, they exploit the ambiguity of the term &#8220;human extinction&#8221; to make their views sound infinitely more reasonable than they actually are. Members of the public who know nothing about the TESCREAL movement hear Altman and the others warning about &#8220;human extinction&#8221; and think: &#8220;I also don&#8217;t want <em>our species</em> to die out. I guess we&#8217;re on the same side.&#8221;</p><p>No! False! That is not what they mean. Again, Altman <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">is explicit</a> that the only scenario in which &#8220;we survive&#8221; is by becoming digital posthumans &#8212; something Altman himself has <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/13/144721/a-startup-is-pitching-a-mind-uploading-service-that-is-100-percent-fatal/">already taken steps to become</a> by signing up with Nectome to have his brain digitized.</p><p>I am begging the media to investigate these issues more; I am pleading with them to make the effort to understand the Silicon Valley worldview that nearly every major figure in the ASI race embraces. <strong>This will not end well for humanity </strong><em><strong>even if</strong></em><strong> the ASI race is slowed down and an &#8220;aligned&#8221; ASI is successfully built</strong>.</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div><hr></div><p>Immense thanks to Alexander Thomas, author of the brilliant book <em>The Politics and Ethics of Transhumanism</em> (which you can read for free <a href="https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/the-politics-and-ethics-of-transhumanism">here</a>), for thoughtful feedback on this post. Any errors are my own.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I.e., he&#8217;s a transhumanist. Whereas the eugenicists of the 20th century wanted to &#8220;perfect&#8221; humanity, transhumanists want to completely &#8220;transcend&#8221; it. That is eugenics on steroids.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Hence, &#8220;alignment&#8221; &#8212; as pursued by TESCREAL folks in the AI safety field, which originated as a branch of the TESCREAL movement &#8212; doesn&#8217;t merely mean &#8220;avoiding human extinction.&#8221; It&#8217;s fundamentally about a positive rather than a negative: realizing a posthuman utopia among the stars.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am not sure that <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Coxon">Coxon</a> is affiliated with the TESCREAL movement. He <em>seems</em> EA-aligned, but I cannot find any information to confirm this. If he&#8217;s not, then just ignore him while reading this section.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Yudkowsky is <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">explicit</a> that this is what he wants.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[“Every Day Feels Like a Funeral”: AI Doomerism and the Current “Existential Mood”]]></title><description><![CDATA[Understanding our current &#8220;existential mood.&#8221;]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/every-day-feels-like-a-funeral-ai</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/every-day-feels-like-a-funeral-ai</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2026 11:26:27 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1aaf67fe-b976-40b8-b720-861d4bb3b18b_3000x2793.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It&#8217;s not dark yet / But it&#8217;s getting there. &#8212; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0VEH9Sx1uY">Bob Dylan</a></em></p><h4>The (Existential) Mood of the Times</h4><p>Back in ~2017, I was speaking to a friend of mine &#8212; a famous senior political scientist at Johns Hopkins &#8212; and I asked how he was doing. His response has haunted me ever since: &#8220;Every day feels like a funeral.&#8221;</p><p>The global predicament &#8212; or what the Club of Rome called the &#8220;<a href="https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/science/club-rome/">world problematique</a>&#8221; &#8212; has only worsened since then, and the slide appears to be accelerating. In my 2024 book <em><a href="https://libgen.li/ads.php?md5=0e054f23595168d4999cb74cd5909a5f">Human Extinction: A History of the Science and Ethics of Annihilation</a></em>, I introduced the idea of an &#8220;existential mood.&#8221; This is a kind of <a href="https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/publication/a6cc1f08-2e4c-49b5-96fa-8e30e5fb40d2">public mood</a> &#8212; a &#8220;mood of the times&#8221; &#8212; that arises from a specific set of assumed answers to questions like:</p><ul><li><p>Is human extinction <em>possible</em>? Or is humanity fundamentally indestructible?</p></li><li><p>If possible, how <em>probable</em> is it?</p></li><li><p>Is this probability increasing or decreasing?</p></li><li><p>Could extinction happen in the <em>near term</em>? Or are we safe for the time being?</p></li><li><p>Is our extinction <em>inevitable</em> in the long run?</p></li><li><p>How could our extinction happen? What are the various &#8220;kill mechanisms&#8221; that could catapult us into the eternal grave?</p></li><li><p>Have we discovered all possible kill mechanisms? Will we create new kill mechanisms in the future?</p></li><li><p>And so on.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div></li></ul><h4>A Brief History of Thinking About Human Extinction</h4><p>For nearly all of Western history, virtually <em>everyone</em> believed that humanity is indestructible(!). Even those who affirmed that human extinction could happen <em>also</em> believed that humanity cannot be destroyed. How does that make sense?</p><p>Well, they accepted a version of extinction that I call &#8220;demographic extinction,&#8221; whereby our species disappears <em>entirely</em> &#8212; but not necessarily forever.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;Terminal extinction&#8221; refers to our species disappearing entirely <em>and</em> forever, while &#8220;final extinction&#8221; refers to our species disappearing entirely and forever without leaving behind any (worthy) successors. Mentioning these because I&#8217;ve referenced them in numerous newsletter articles!</p></div><p>For example, the Ancient Greek philosopher <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes">Xenophanes</a> propounded a cyclical cosmology according to which at some point in the future all humans will disappear from the earth. However, as the cycle proceeds, we will inevitably return &#8212; until we disappear again. He thus accepted a <em>kind of</em> human extinction while nonetheless affirming the indestructibility of our species.</p><p>Once Christianity became widespread in the West during the 4th and 5th centuries (boosted by the 313 CE <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan">Edict of Milan</a> and 380 CE <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Thessalonica">Edict of Thessalonica</a>), even the most elementary conception of our extinction &#8212; demographic extinction &#8212; became more or less unthinkable. It simply wasn&#8217;t part of God&#8217;s plan for the universe, for balancing the cosmic scales of justice at the end of time. Yes, the world as we know it will end, but humanity will endure through the cataclysmic paroxysms of the <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/eschaton">eschaton</a> to join God in heaven on Earth forever.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>The point is that <em>naturalistic</em> extinction (think: dodos and dinosaurs) is rendered impossible by the eschatological narrative of Christianity and its metaphysical assertion that all humans possess immortal souls, which implies that humanity itself is immortal.</p><p>It wasn&#8217;t until the 19th century, as Christianity began to retreat, that people &#8212; for the first time in all of Western history &#8212; started to accept that humanity might <em>not</em> be fundamentally indestructible.</p><p>You find, for example, Lord Byron&#8217;s <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43825/darkness-56d222aeeee1b">1816 poem </a><em><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43825/darkness-56d222aeeee1b">Darkness</a></em> &#8212; inspired by the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer">Year Without a Summer</a> caused by the Mount Tambora eruption in Indonesia &#8212; which depicts the world completely bereft of all humans. Around the same time, the &#8220;last man&#8221; motif became widespread, known today mostly because of a book by Byron&#8217;s friend, Mary Shelley, titled <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Man">The Last Man</a> </em>(1826).</p><p>Then, in the early 1850s, something devastating happened: physicists discovered the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics">second law of thermodynamics</a> (&#8220;Second Law&#8221;). They immediately recognized the apocalyptic implications: that Earth &#8212; if not the entire universe &#8212; will someday become uninhabitable. One scientist <a href="https://www.google.fr/books/edition/Kinetic_Theory_Irreversible_processes/FckNAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;bsq=%22the+terroristic+nimbus+of+the+second+law%22&amp;dq=%22the+terroristic+nimbus+of+the+second+law%22&amp;printsec=frontcover">wrote</a> of &#8220;the terroristic nimbus of the second law,&#8221; which he described as &#8220;a destructive principle of all life in the universe&#8221; (at the time &#8212; surprisingly &#8212; most reputable scientists <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_pluralism">believed in extraterrestrial civilizations</a>). Another <a href="https://www.google.fr/books/edition/Body_and_Will/sSgFAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=%22species+after+species+of+animals+and+plants+will+first+degenerate+and+then+become+extinct,+as+the+worsening+conditions+of+life+render+it+impossible+for+them+to+continue+the+struggle%22&amp;pg=PA320&amp;printsec=frontcover">reported</a> that</p><blockquote><p>species after species of animals and plants will first degenerate and then become extinct, as the worsening conditions of life render it impossible for them to continue the struggle for existence; a few scattered families of degraded human beings living perhaps in snowhuts near the equator, very much as Esquimaux [dated language] live now near the pole, will represent the last wave of the receding tide of human existence before its final extinction; until at last a frozen earth incapable of cultivation is left without energy to produce a living particle of any sort and so death itself is dead.</p></blockquote><p>Wild stuff!</p><p>Not long after, Bertrand Russell penned his famous 1903 essay &#8220;<a href="https://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/br-free-mans-worship.html">A Free Man&#8217;s Worship</a>&#8221; &#8212; which basically plagiarized <a href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/intejethi.4.4.2375662">another article from Arthur Balfour</a> (yes, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration">that Balfour</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>). In it, he poetically lamented that</p><blockquote><p>all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the whole temple of Man&#8217;s achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins.</p></blockquote><p>This gestures at what I mean by an &#8220;existential mood&#8221; &#8212; a vague sense of, in this case, inevitable doom that pervaded intellectual culture, if not society more generally. (Indeed, H. G. Wells brought this mood to those outside of academia with his 1895 <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine">The Time Machine</a></em>, which depicts the end of earthly life.)</p><p>Many people at the time <em>felt </em>this mood in their bones. It lingered in the background. It cast a shadow on the present. It mumbled faintly in the back of people&#8217;s minds. The terrible realization that, in the end, all will be lost, and not even a trace of humanity having once existed will remain, framed people&#8217;s thinking about the cosmically hopeless human situation. Russell even <a href="https://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/br-free-mans-worship.html">describes</a> it as a kind of &#8220;unyielding despair.&#8221;</p><h4>Four Shifts in Mood</h4><p>In the book, I argue that there have been exactly four well-defined shifts in existential mood, driven by four sudden changes in how people answered the various questions listed above. These are:</p><ol><li><p>The first shift happened in the 1850s, due to the Second Law. It caused a double psycho-cultural trauma: not only is human extinction <em>really</em> possible, but it&#8217;s <em>inevitable</em> in the long run.</p></li><li><p>The second in 1954, due to <a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/a-fireball-in-the-marshall-islands-how-a-nuclear-test-changed-the-world/">the Castle Bravo debacle</a>. Almost no one was talking about human extinction from nuclear war between 1945 and 1954. Immediately after Castle Bravo, though, it was on the minds of many leading scientists, who conveyed their horror to the public through letters like the <a href="https://pugwash.org/1955/07/09/statement-manifesto/">Russell-Einstein manifesto</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainau_Declaration">Mainau Declaration</a>.</p></li><li><p>The third in the early 1990s, when scientists realized that global-scale natural catastrophes can happen; see the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvarez_hypothesis">Alvarez hypothesis</a>. (Scientists didn&#8217;t believe in natural global catastrophes prior to this because nearly everyone in the Earth sciences accepted a paradigm called &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism">uniformitarianism</a>,&#8221; which says that natural catastrophes are always localized. A new paradigm sometimes called &#8220;neo-catastrophism&#8221; took its place, which is our current reigning paradigm.)</p></li><li><p>And the fourth began in the early 2000s, when (a) a <a href="https://history.aip.org/climate/index.htm">consensus about climate change first arose</a>, and (b) people &#8212; in particular, early <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREALists</a> &#8212; began to speculate about how 21st-century technologies will introduce novel, unprecedented threats to human survival far more terrifying than the risks faced during the 20th century. The opening act of this mood was exemplified by Bill Joy&#8217;s 2000 <em>Wired </em>article, &#8220;<a href="https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/">Why the Future Doesn&#8217;t Need Us</a>.&#8221;</p></li></ol><p>The existential mood that resulted from the fourth shift &#8212; our current mood &#8212; is marked, I argue, by a haunting sense that however perilous the previous century was &#8212; with its nightmarish chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, along with the giant <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hemoclysm">hemoclysm</a> of the two world wars &#8212; <em>the present century will be far more perilous</em>.</p><h4>An Astonishing Transformation</h4><p>In the book, I highlight how advanced AI would reinforce the new existential mood &#8212; and, insofar as this was a <em>prediction</em>, it happens to have been spot on.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>To be clear, I distinguish between when a new existential mood is <em>initiated</em> and when it <em>solidifies</em>. Sometimes there&#8217;s a multi-year gap between when one can identify the emergence of a new mood and when this mood spreads beyond some group to pervade society more broadly. The fifth mood (resulting from the fourth shift) first appeared in the early 2000s &#8212; perhaps even the 1990s &#8212; and is fully solidifying in realtime. Indeed &#8230;</p></div><p>Can you feel this existential mood? I bet you can! Just this week, a former Anthropic employee named Jacob Coxon has been appearing on major news outlets like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i30jVPqQeOM&amp;t">CNN</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGkdhPiou54">MSNBC</a>, and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedw3UMuFow">Fox News</a> because he quit Anthropic and <a href="https://x.com/hilbertspaess/status/2097476203863224394">declared on X</a> that &#8220;the people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade.&#8221; As of this writing, his tweet has 119,000 likes and has been viewed 24.3 million times.</p><p>The current lead researcher of Alignment Science at Anthropic, Evan Hubinger, quote-tweeted Coxon&#8217;s post saying:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/EvanHub/status/2097497037956891126&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Jacob is correct here&#8212;we really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans! I personally think it is &amp;gt;10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;EvanHub&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Evan Hubinger&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/515578813095215104/8B_rLk5f_normal.png&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-09T01:27:18.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible - but I hear the same people express fear&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;hilbertspaess&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jacob Coxon&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2097232673865601024/d6H8UbQJ_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:4837,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:9699,&quot;like_count&quot;:58690,&quot;impression_count&quot;:42017092,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>This also went mega-viral, as you can see.</p><p>It&#8217;s hard to overstate how astonishing this transformation is. Just ~two centuries ago &#8212; perhaps 7-8 generations in the past &#8212; nearly everyone would have claimed that humanity is <em>fundamentally indestructible</em>. Human extinction is not something to worry about, because it quite literally <em>can&#8217;t</em> happen. God wouldn&#8217;t allow it!</p><p>Even atheists during the 19th-century Enlightenment didn&#8217;t believe that we could disappear forever &#8212; or even <em>temporarily</em>. The French encyclopedist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Diderot">Diderot</a>, arguably the first atheist in our modern sense, speculated that someday humanity might indeed vanish, but that surely we would re-emerge on Earth. He was channeling a secular version of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_plenitude">old way of thinking</a>: it&#8217;s just not plausible to think that our species could disappear forever.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>Meanwhile &#8212; as you know &#8212; virtually every notable figure in the ASI (artificial superintelligence) race has <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P(doom)">expressed existential concerns similar to those of Coxon</a>. Dario Amodei says the probability of extinction in the near future is 25%. Musk puts it at 20%. Demis Hassabis says the likelihood is &#8220;definitely non-zero and it&#8217;s probably non-negligible. So that in itself is pretty sobering.&#8221; Sam Altman says that &#8220;<span>probably AI will</span> kill us all,&#8221; and argues that the only way to &#8220;survive&#8221; the advent of ASI is to become digital posthumans by &#8220;<a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">merging</a>&#8221; with machines (in other words, we will need to undergo terminal extinction). Shane Legg puts the probability of doom at 5-50%. Geoffrey Hinton says it&#8217;s at least 10%.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think that ASI is about to kill everyone on Earth. I see absolutely no reason to believe this. Just today, I read a <a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA3034-1.html">RAND report</a> from last year arguing that it&#8217;s extremely implausible that a rogue ASI could murder literally every last person &#8212; and I think they&#8217;re right.</p><p>But that&#8217;s not the point. The point concerns the <em>public mood</em> that now pervades Western society. This mood is undeniably reinforced by the growing proclamations from prominent researchers (many of whom are affiliated with the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL movement</a>) of imminent doom.</p><p>Even if one rejects such proclamations, it&#8217;s still hard to avoid <em>feeling</em> the existential mood that&#8217;s now percolating into every corner of society. Just three days ago, two people wrote me &#8212; in the midst of Coxon&#8217;s media blitz &#8212; to ask whether this is it for humanity. One person is an old friend who I hadn&#8217;t spoken to for some 10 years. Meanwhile, university students are despairing; people are <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/preparing-for-the-singularity-an?utm_source=publication-search">spending their retirement savings</a> because they don&#8217;t believe there will be a future. And so on, and so forth.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>***</p><p>It&#8217;s not just AI, as noted above. Another major cause of the current existential mood is of course climate change. Thanks to the record-shattering <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/09/weather/el-nino-weather-forecast-facts.html">Super El Ni&#241;o</a> brewing in the Pacific, on top of all the warming that&#8217;s happened so far, 2027 is <a href="https://x.com/hausfath/status/2097389617771339933">now projected</a> to be 1.8C above pre-industrial levels.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/hausfath/status/2097389617771339933&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@Aigle_e</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@DrJamesEHansen</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@WeatherProf</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@rjameswx</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@metoffice</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@RARohde</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@PaulRoundy1</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@Recretos</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@physorg_com</span> <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@BenNollWeather</span> Awesome to see a proper paper doing this (wish I had the time...). Its quite in-line with my estimate of ~1.8C for 2027: &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;hausfath&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Zeke Hausfather&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1943417488177303552/eoeit58Y_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-08T18:20:27.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HRtsuNAbcAAKotb.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/h3PIiquiaP&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:2,&quot;like_count&quot;:25,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1184,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Ecosystems are collapsing; the ocean is acidifying 4.1 times <em>faster</em> than it did during the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian&#8211;Triassic_extinction_event">Great Dying</a>, the worst extinction event in Earth&#8217;s history; we&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.stockholmresilience.org/news--events/general-news/2025-09-24-seven-of-nine-planetary-boundaries-now-breached.html">crossed 7 of 9 planetary boundaries</a>; catastrophic, irreversible (on human timescales) <a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2108146119">tipping points are looming</a>; the entire planet is covered in microplastics (even <a href="https://www.nsf.gov/news/researchers-discover-microplastics-all-ocean-depths">found in the Mariana Trench</a>); and human activity (mostly in the Global North) has initiated the <a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/resources/explainers/what-is-the-sixth-mass-extinction-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/">sixth major mass extinction</a> event in life&#8217;s 3.8-billion-year history on Earth.</p><p>Entire regions of the planet will be &#8212; and <a href="https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2020-05-07-extreme-heat-humidity-combinations-happening-now-climate-change">are being</a> &#8212; subject to heatwaves exceeding the 95-degree wet bulb temperature, meaning that you&#8217;d die even if you were naked, in the shade, standing in front of a giant fan. 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2020-05-07-extreme-heat-humidity-combinations-happening-now-climate-change">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Humanity won&#8217;t die out because of catastrophic climate change, either &#8212; unless there&#8217;s a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect">runaway greenhouse effect</a>, though climatologists believe the probability of this is <em>very</em> low. But many people don&#8217;t clearly distinguish between civilizational collapse and human extinction (in fact, these have been conflated by people going back at least to the early 1900s), and hence climate change is also intimately connected to the current existential mood, according to which the probability of extinction is unprecedentedly high and almost certainly rising.</p><p>Additional factors include:</p><ul><li><p>The continued risk of nuclear conflict, which appears to have risen due to the Russia-Ukraine war. Iran is also likely, I think, to pursue nuclear weapons even more vigorously given Trump&#8217;s dumb decision to start a war with them. The &#8220;hardliners&#8221; in Iran were essentially proven <em>right</em> by the US&#8217;s fatuous actions.</p></li><li><p>The possibility of the US-Iran and Russia-Ukraine wars expanding.</p></li><li><p>The possibility of engineered pandemics, perhaps enabled by AI. (Recall that scientists just created <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3j3ngevmo">brand new viruses using AI</a>.)</p></li><li><p>The possibility of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror-image_life">mirror life</a>, which could potentially destroy most life on the planet.</p></li><li><p>And so on.</p></li></ul><p>***</p><p>A somewhat useful indicator of the current existential mood is the <em>Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists</em>&#8217; <a href="https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/timeline/">Doomsday Clock</a>, which aims to track our collective proximity to total annihilation. The clock was created in 1947, and was originally set at 7 minutes before midnight (or doom). It inched closer in 1953 &#8212; reaching 2 minutes before doom &#8212; the year after the US built the first thermonuclear weapon (far more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on the Japanese archipelago), and then was set to a reassuring 17 minutes in 1991, after the Cold War officially ended.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hqMJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1d09dd2-722e-4a07-9c29-0663852384ed_554x554.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hqMJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1d09dd2-722e-4a07-9c29-0663852384ed_554x554.jpeg 424w, 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Because of nuclear proliferation, wars, climate change, synthetic biology, Trump and fascism, and advanced AI.</p><p>To put this in perspective, prior to the 1950s, the only plausible kill mechanisms were natural: astroid and comet impacts, volcanic supereruptions, gamma ray bursts, etc. These are real dangers, but they are vanishingly <em>improbable</em>. An asteroid 12km wide, which is how big the asteroid that killed off the non-avian dinosaurs was, only strikes Earth <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/asteroid-day-1.7571724">once every 100 million years</a> or so! (This is actually a higher estimate than what I&#8217;ve read elsewhere.)</p><p>Hence, if there had been a Doomsday Clock in, say, 1850, it would have been set at something like 0.5 seconds <em>after midnight on the day of doom</em> &#8212; i.e., roughly 24 hours <em>before</em> the clock ticks to the dreaded moment of annihilation. Think about how wild this is. Never before in our 300,000-year history has humanity been so at risk of global catastrophe.</p><h4>Was This All a Mistake?</h4><p>Again, I don&#8217;t believe that human extinction &#8212; total annihilation &#8212; is actually that probable. A full-on nuclear war, ASI takeover, engineered pandemic involving synthesized designer pathogens, and so on, very likely <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-022-00573-0">wouldn&#8217;t kill </a><em><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-022-00573-0">every last person on Earth</a></em>.</p><p>But, at the same time, I do think that the probability of a major, horrific, global-scale catastrophe is higher now than ever before. In 1961, just before the Cuban missile crisis that the historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. <a href="https://www.jfklibrary.org/events-and-awards/kennedy-library-forums/browse-all-forums/transcripts/on-the-brink-the-cuban-missile-crisis">called</a> arguably &#8220;the most dangerous moment in human history,&#8221; John F. Kennedy <a href="https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/united-nations-19610925">said this</a> in an addressed to the UN General Assembly:</p><blockquote><p>Today, every inhabitant of this planet must contemplate the day when this planet may no longer be habitable. Every man, woman, and child lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles, hanging by the slenderest of threads, capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or by madness. The weapons of war must be abolished before they abolish us.</p></blockquote><p>The &#8220;nuclear sword of Damocles&#8221; can be generalized to many other threats, of course &#8212; those listed above. Even if some humans survive (and they almost certainly will), we live amid unprecedented levels of global risk. Trump could literally wake up <em>tomorrow</em> and decide to launch a nuclear missile. Or, perhaps I&#8217;m wrong and one of the AI companies succeeds in triggering recursive self-improvement next year, resulting in an ASI that <em>does</em> somehow &#8212; perhaps in a way we cannot possibly imagine and hence anticipate &#8212; exterminate humanity or &#8220;merely&#8221; obliterate civilization.</p><p>All of this makes me wonder whether &#8220;civilization&#8221; has been worth it. In<em> <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/goliaths-curse-by-luke-kemp-a-fascinating?utm_source=publication-search">Goliath&#8217;s Curse</a></em>, Luke Kemp &#8212; an old friend of mine &#8212; points out that many of the most horrendous events in human history have been the result not of natural catastrophes but the emergence and expansion of civilizations.</p><p>Furthermore, we once lived in (a) abundant environments, where <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3917328/">food was relatively plentiful</a>, everyone&#8217;s teeth were <a href="https://blog.sup.org/anthropology/why-cavemen-needed-no-braces/">almost perfectly straight</a>, and &#8220;diseases of civilization&#8221; like &#8220;<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/227777434">acid reflux, acne, anxiety</a>, asthma, certain cancers, depression, type 2 diabetes, flat feet, high blood pressure, irritable bowel syndrome, lower back pain and osteoporosis&#8221; were rare or non-existent, and (b) societies that were non-hierarchical and egalitarian. The hallmark of civilizations &#8212; which Kemp dubs &#8220;Goliath&#8217;s&#8221; &#8212; is <em>dominance hierarchies</em>, manifest in phenomena such as slavery, patriarchy, exploitation, etc.</p><p>Yes, infant mortality was much higher among hunter-gatherers, and they didn&#8217;t have &#8220;cool&#8221; things like TV and social media. But they also didn&#8217;t have doomscrolling, nor did they perpetually live under the nuclear/etc. sword of Damocles. The Doomsday Clock would have been set at something like 12:01 am, not 85 seconds before calamity later that day.</p><p>I know asking the question, &#8220;Was civilization worth it,&#8221; is opening a can of worms! I don&#8217;t have a settled answer, and I&#8217;m curious to know what you think. Perhaps I&#8217;ll dedicate an entire essay to it in the future. As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Albeit with transformed physical bodies, which you <em>could</em> argue is a <em>kind of</em> &#8220;extinction,&#8221; but this is a complicated conceptual and metaphysical issue that we don&#8217;t need to get into!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Balfour was also the brother-in-law of Henry Sidgwick, the famous utilitarian. Small world!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Wells actually addressed this in 1893 essay, &#8220;<a href="https://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/certain-personal-matters/24/">The Extinction of Man</a>.&#8221; He writes that</p><blockquote><p>it is part of the excessive egotism of the human animal that the bare idea of its extinction seems incredible to it. &#8220;A world without <em>us</em>!&#8221; it says, as a heady young Cephalaspis might have said it in the old Silurian sea. But since the Cephalaspis and the Coccosteus many a fine animal has increased and multiplied upon the earth, lorded it over land or sea without a rival, and passed at last into the night. Surely it is not so unreasonable to ask why man should be an exception to the rule. From the scientific standpoint at least any reason for such exception is hard to find.</p></blockquote><p>In other words, there&#8217;s a certain narcissism of our species that prevents us from accepting that the universe really could exist without us. In fact, my preferred title for my book &#8212; which Routledge rejected &#8212; was <em>The Universe Without Us: A History of the Science and Ethics of Human Extinction</em>.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Gil Duran’s NYT Bestseller & The Tyranny of the ASI Race]]></title><description><![CDATA[(1,800 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/gil-durans-nyt-bestseller-and-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/gil-durans-nyt-bestseller-and-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2026 12:09:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j9U9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac01ac75-7268-4c5d-927d-99cba0a6c8a1_1836x1250.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><em>The Nerd Reich</em>, by Gil Duran</h3><p>First, <em>huge congratulations</em> to my friend Gil Duran for <em><a href="https://www.thenerdreich.com/the-nerd-reich-is-a-new-york-times-bestseller/">The Nerd Reich</a></em> becoming an instant <em>New York Times</em> bestseller. That is an incredible achievement, made <em>even more</em> impressive by the fact that this is his debut book! (I&#8217;ve publish four so far, and never come close to this!)</p><p>I see it as a kind of moral duty to celebrate the extraordinary achievements of friends,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> but also, on a non-moral, purely strategic level, Gil&#8217;s immense success is good for everyone writing about Silicon Valley because the book highlights the various utopian-apocalyptic ideologies circulating among Valley dwellers. His success is a tide that will lift all other boats in the harbor.</p><p>I started reading <em>The Nerd Reich</em> the other day and can attest that it is absolutely fantastic. It&#8217;s a gripping page-turner that reads like a thriller. There is no fluff. Every sentence is well-crafted. Every point is terrifying. <strong>It&#8217;s honestly one of the best books I&#8217;ve read in a very long time</strong>. If you haven&#8217;t bought a copy, I&#8217;d recommend doing so right away. So much of what&#8217;s happening in US politics and Silicon Valley will start to make (more) sense.</p><p>Gil&#8217;s thesis also dovetails nicely with <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">my own focus on the TESCREAL ideologies</a> &#8212; an acronym he mentions throughout the book. Gil has also very graciously mentioned me and Timnit in some interviews, such as <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-is-this-happening-the-chris-hayes-podcast/id1382983397?i=1000787097989">this one</a> with Chris Hayes.</p><p>I wish I&#8217;d taken a screenshot when his book was higher on the list, but here&#8217;s proof that it&#8217;s already a smash hit:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j9U9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac01ac75-7268-4c5d-927d-99cba0a6c8a1_1836x1250.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Amazing stuff! You can &#8212; and should! &#8212; buy a copy <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nerd-Reich-Silicon-Fascism-Democracy/dp/1668221403/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gXSoto1GkJX1iTcPKZTGB3pxYFVNH0V-8bgaybNiO9CBIRAMlJOupS8aFip6zpxiSfynJ4GKLX7tv7voF7hjaSpShT0vlxm4a51VBN1pA1BWSAkW43rtsC3lQGyXR2hKkLxboBo1fSLTNN4MFrbzqaB8Zc5sbQ6KzUzScmg9JsnpXVSdgD4Uklypxf8hFUNcDfh5z92rMAzbVrmogwIaRSypphFZeyWrZEuKVN_eO-c.5CHiyd0R0V8zga8_8G6qh8Anu3N_kx9AJQWkF-c_e5w&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;hvadid=693919111114&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvexpln=67&amp;hvlocphy=2840&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvocijid=9871940871049059187--&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=9871940871049059187&amp;hvtargid=kwd-2458254611181&amp;hydadcr=22538_13531263&amp;keywords=the+nerd+reich+book&amp;mcid=eadad90cb26b32e2a201d6ee97bbb066&amp;qid=1788953544&amp;sr=8-1">here</a>.</p><h3>The Utter Tyranny of the ASI Race</h3><p>I just published <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-tyrannical-race-to-build-superintelligence/">a new article in </a><em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-tyrannical-race-to-build-superintelligence/">Truthdig</a></em> about how the race to build artificial superintelligence (ASI) is tyrannical and fundamentally undemocratic. I also point out that the AI company CEOs &#8212; Sam Altman and Dario Amodei, in particular &#8212; are damn hypocrites for claiming to care about democracy and the democratization of AI.</p><p>I know this isn&#8217;t a particularly novel claim. The value of the article, I think/hope, is that it articulates the point in a compelling manner. I&#8217;ve copy-pasted part of it below. The full article can be read <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-tyrannical-race-to-build-superintelligence/">here</a>.</p><blockquote><p><span>Given the apparent stakes of ASI, why do we have no say in whether it&#8217;s developed? If ASI initiates the Singularity, and the post-Singularity world is fundamentally different in every way from our current world, why do </span><em><span>we</span></em><span> not have a seat at the decision-making table? If this technology is going to affect all of us, everywhere around the world, shouldn&#8217;t we have a voice?</span></p><p><span>A friend of mine, </span><a href="https://monikabielskyte.substack.com/"><span>Monika Bielskyte</span></a><span>, likes to say, &#8220;You cannot design </span><em><span>for</span></em><span>. You must always design </span><em><span>with</span></em><span>.&#8221; In other words, people of every nation, tribe, culture, tradition, religion, race, sex, gender, political ideology, socioeconomic demographic and so on, must be included in the design process </span><em><span>from the very start</span></em><span>.</span></p><p><span>It is not acceptable for a tiny elite of techno-utopian extremists in Silicon Valley to promise that at some future point, after ASI has arrived, democracy will kick in. Let&#8217;s call this what it is: a form of tyranny. The AI companies are subjecting us to a tyranny of monumental proportions by unilaterally building what they claim will be an unprecedentedly powerful technology without the permission or consent of the people.</span></p><p><span>But again, these &#8220;fuckers&#8221; &#8212; quoting Altman &#8212; don&#8217;t actually care about what we think because they&#8217;re driven by bizarre </span><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym"><span>TESCREAL fantasies</span></a><span> of uploading their minds to computers, colonizing the cosmos, and </span><a href="https://nypost.com/2026/08/26/business/leopold-aschenbrenner-promised-to-buy-wife-galaxy-then-his-45b-hedge-fund-blew-up/"><span>buying entire galaxies</span></a><span> to own until the heat death of the universe. If Altman or Amodei genuinely valued democracy, they would be asking us </span><em><span>right now</span></em><span> whether we want the future they&#8217;re trying to realize. Of course, we </span><em><span>don&#8217;t</span></em><span> want that future, which is why they don&#8217;t ask us. They want to design a future </span><em><span>for</span></em><span> themselves rather than one </span><em><span>with</span></em><span> us.</span></p><p><span>This is a farce &#8212; a dystopian scenario come to life. Given that all the AI CEOs claim that superintelligence will arrive within the next few years, we may have only a small window of time to fight back. Boycott AI, join an anti-AI protest, call your representatives and tell them that this tyranny must end. There is still time to avert a bad outcome for humanity, but we must act with a sense of moral urgency.</span></p></blockquote><p>Incidentally, an employee at Anthropic posted this just today:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/EvanHub/status/2097497037956891126&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Jacob is correct here&#8212;we really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans! I personally think it is &amp;gt;10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;EvanHub&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Evan Hubinger&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/515578813095215104/8B_rLk5f_normal.png&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-09-09T01:27:18.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible - but I hear the same people express fear&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;hilbertspaess&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jacob Coxon&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2097232673865601024/d6H8UbQJ_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:45,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:53,&quot;like_count&quot;:516,&quot;impression_count&quot;:37646,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, gives an even<a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/09/17/anthropic-dario-amodei-p-doom-25-percent"> higher probability of total annihilation</a> from ASI: 25%. He also says that <a href="https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1845211730097434666">ASI might arrive </a><em><a href="https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1845211730097434666">this year</a></em>, meaning <em>within the next ~3.5 months</em>.</p><p>I know I&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/my-new-york-times-article-on-sam?utm_source=publication-search">discussed this before</a>, but I can hardly express how angry it makes me that these people &#8212; these &#8220;<a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/sam-altman-then-and-now">fuckers</a>&#8221; &#8212; get away with threatening the lives of me, my family, my friends, and everyone else on Earth. If one takes their warnings seriously, it means that you and I, everyone we know, all the residents of Toronto, Paris, Bangkok, Casablanca, Shanghai, Caracas, Mexico City, Mumbai, etc. could all die in the next ~3.5 months.</p><p>Sorry for cursing, but <em>how in the fuck is this acceptable</em>? Why aren&#8217;t these people on trial for threatening humanity? Why haven&#8217;t they been arrested? <strong>Are there any lawyers reading this who have some insights about how to sue them for their rhetoric</strong>? I refuse to believe that there&#8217;s nothing to be done about this. If my neighbor says there&#8217;s a 25% chance that he might kill me and my family in the next ~3.5 months due to negligence, I&#8217;d call the cops and he&#8217;d be taken to a police station for interrogation. Surely there&#8217;s some way to hold these people accountable for their dangerous, unsettling words?</p><p>That said, I <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-increasingly-powerful-ai-models">don&#8217;t think ASI will be created by the end of the year</a>. It&#8217;s not even clear to me that ASI &#8212; whatever that is, exactly &#8212; will arrive in the next 5 or 10 years. But <strong>this is beside the point</strong>. Even if I believe my neighbor&#8217;s threat is unfounded, they should still be held accountable for uttering that threat.</p><h3>The Swiss Alps</h3><p>Finally, I took off the last two weeks of August to vacation with some relatives in the Swiss Alps. They generously paid for everything, which made the trip possible.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Switzerland is very expensive &#8212; because it pays people a living wage, not a minimum wage, so the bill at the grocery store doesn&#8217;t break the bank of anyone living there. Indeed, a friend in Switzerland informed me that the lowest income one might get for a full-time position is nearly $5,000 <em>per month</em>. A cashier at the Lidl, for example, literally earns $5,800 every four weeks. In contrast, someone earning minimum wage in the US brings in about $1,256.</p></div><p>The Swiss Alps are, in my opinion, the closest thing there is to heaven on Earth. The vast pastures, the towering snowcapped mountains, the sprawling meadows and verdant forests, the dreamy ferns and mossy rocks are all glorious notes in a magnificent symphony.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>The way I&#8217;ve described the Swiss Alps to friends is this: I grew up in a horizontal world &#8212; Frederick, Maryland, 30 minutes away from the puny Appalachian Mountains.</p><p>The lucky residents of the Swiss Alps live in a <em>vertical world</em>. As you drive or hike up the switchbacks, you pass sprawling towns almost stacked on top of each other. Enormous mountains, you find, are actually the <em>valleys</em> of mountains <em>above them</em>, which you only discover once you reach the <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false_summit">false summit</a> as seen from below. There are, as I like to say, <em>entire worlds atop worlds atop worlds</em>. It&#8217;s like walking a circuitous stairway to heaven: at each twist in the journey, you find another, previously hidden staircase ahead of you, and looking back you see mountains and valleys layered on top of mountains and valleys. It&#8217;s really something extraordinary, and a reminder of how beautiful our precious oasis in space can be.</p><p>Below are some photos and videos from the Swiss towns of Lauterbrunnen, Adelboden, and Leukerbad. The first was visited by J.R.R. Tolkien, and <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimdobson/2022/09/18/how-a-trek-through-switzerland-inspired-jrr-tolkien-to-create-a-magical-middle-earth/">inspired the town of Rivendell</a>. I also visited Zurich at the end of the trip, staying with a good friend of mine (<a href="https://gedsperber.substack.com">Ged</a>). Zurich is frequently <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_quality_of_life_indices#Mercer's_Quality_of_Living_Ranking">ranked as the best</a>, or one of the best, cities in the world to live in, and Switzerland is consistently ranked as <a href="https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/where-to-be-born-index-by-country">the best country to be born in</a>. Enjoy:</p><div><hr></div><p><em>Adelboden below. I hiked a sinuous trail that winds around the huge waterfall. It takes one to a mind-bogglingly huge <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirque">cirque</a>, i.e., &#8220;an amphitheatre-like valley formed by glacial erosion.&#8221; You cannot see the cirque from this photo &#8212; it is a hidden world. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Lauterbrunnen, next to the accommodations in which I stayed. High up to the left is a sprawling village called Wengen, which looks down on Lauterbrunnen, but is dwarfed by huge mountains that you can&#8217;t even see from the Lauterbrunnen valley (itself far above valleys further below).</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg" width="1456" height="1092" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1092,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2528112,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/214747006?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ze78!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0d53c5d-998c-48f8-a565-3c367628e80d_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Wengen, the world over a world over a world, beneath a series of other worlds high above it.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg" width="1456" height="1092" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_2Hf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69a40259-6df0-4d22-8a3f-b08856205734_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Here&#8217;s another picture I took from Wengen when I visited back in 2021. Perhaps you can see why Tolkien was inspired by this place!</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png" width="1456" height="1426" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lxB5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F38b7b987-c928-44ef-81e5-4601c0372afd_3024x2961.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Further down the Lauterbrunnen valley:</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ae1d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F546ed09b-1246-45f9-8f2a-a95bcba62f44_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ae1d!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F546ed09b-1246-45f9-8f2a-a95bcba62f44_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ae1d!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F546ed09b-1246-45f9-8f2a-a95bcba62f44_4032x3024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ae1d!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F546ed09b-1246-45f9-8f2a-a95bcba62f44_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ae1d!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F546ed09b-1246-45f9-8f2a-a95bcba62f44_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ae1d!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F546ed09b-1246-45f9-8f2a-a95bcba62f44_4032x3024.jpeg" width="1456" height="1092" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>A video of the Lauterbrunnen valley.</em></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;f0a12b71-26ff-410f-bff6-5d2d803f4888&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><em>Expansive green pastures in Adelboden (no audio). The snowcapped mountain peaks behind the waterfall are obscured by clouds.</em></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;908dac49-c1ba-4d40-86e9-b2b80167beda&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><em>Another video of Lauterbrunnen (no audio):</em></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;86416675-b099-45b2-8a3c-7c3b2fb5e7fa&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><em>Another video of Adelboden:</em></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;c27d373c-2330-42f3-ac24-2505af91b951&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><em>Picture of Leukerbad:</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VFUW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed09da96-f6fe-412b-bba5-6472334c51b2_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VFUW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed09da96-f6fe-412b-bba5-6472334c51b2_4032x3024.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VFUW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed09da96-f6fe-412b-bba5-6472334c51b2_4032x3024.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VFUW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed09da96-f6fe-412b-bba5-6472334c51b2_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VFUW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed09da96-f6fe-412b-bba5-6472334c51b2_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VFUW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fed09da96-f6fe-412b-bba5-6472334c51b2_4032x3024.jpeg" width="1456" height="1941" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Video of the vast cliffs surrounding Leukerbad. To the right (occluded by the buildings, are snowcapped mountains).</em></p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;22db3f59-b437-4cbe-b80a-09b6efaedcfc&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I simply do not understand the kind of person who gets jealous of the success of others. It makes no sense to me. I am blown-away and thrilled by how much attention Gil&#8217;s important work is receiving!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that &#8220;alp&#8221; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alps">literally means</a> &#8220;<span>a high mountain pasture, typically near or above the </span>tree line<span>, where cows and other livestock are taken to be grazed during the summer months and where huts and hay barns can be found, sometimes constituting tiny hamlets.&#8221;</span></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What If TESCREAL *Is* a Conspiracy?]]></title><description><![CDATA[(3,000 words.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/what-if-tescreal-is-a-conspiracy</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/what-if-tescreal-is-a-conspiracy</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2026 11:40:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fNen!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f09b8f1-d31c-4b12-a6b8-403880d1ed62_960x956.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is part 3 of my &#8220;Understanding TESCREAL&#8221; series. Part 1 offers an accessible introduction to the TESCREAL thesis, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">here</a>. Part 2 provides an exploration of the pro-extinctionist implications of the TESCREAL worldview, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">here</a>. I would strongly recommend reading all three.</em></p><h3><strong>Leftist Conspiracy Theories</strong></h3><p>On June 12, 2023, the democratic-socialist transhumanist James Hughes and then-graduate student Eli Sennesh <a href="https://medium.com/institute-for-ethics-and-emerging-technologies/conspiracy-theories-left-futurism-and-the-attack-on-tescreal-456972fe02aa">posted an essay</a> on <em>Medium</em> in which they argued that the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL thesis</a> is little more than a leftist conspiracy theory.</p><p>This essay was written and posted before Timnit Gebru and I had published even <em>one</em> article on the TESCREAL concept, either together or individually. We hadn&#8217;t even given a <em>single</em> interview discussing the idea. Hughes and Sennesh&#8217;s entire piece was based on nothing more than a handful of tweets from me and Gebru. This would be like me writing a lengthy, detailed review of Hughes&#8217; book, <em>Citizen Cyborg</em>, based solely on the title and a 200-word blurb.</p><p>Naturally, then, their critique completely misrepresents the TESCREAL thesis. Like an LLM, they hallucinated what they thought the TESCREAL thesis might be, and then launched a barrage of rhetorical missiles at the nonexistent target.</p><p>That said, the claim that TESCREAL is something of a <em>conspiracy</em> isn&#8217;t far off the mark. (This, however, is not what they argued.) It&#8217;s worth remembering here that not all conspiracies are conspiracy <em>theories</em>. In a section titled &#8220;<a href="https://www.google.ch/books/edition/Doppelganger/aMsLEQAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=%22Some+Conspiracies+Are+Real%22+klein&amp;pg=PA235&amp;printsec=frontcover">Some Conspiracies Are Real</a>&#8221; of her excellent book <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelganger:_A_Trip_into_the_Mirror_World">Doppelganger</a></em>, Naomi Klein reminds us that the world has been shaped by &#8220;real conspiracies&#8221; hatched and executed by the socioeconomic and political elite. She writes:</p><blockquote><p>The poisoned water system in Flint, Michigan, was covered up by state officials year after year. British Petroleum and Halliburton cut corners in the operation of the Deepwater Horizon offshore drilling rig, and the result was the largest accidental oil spill in history in the Gulf of Mexico, with the companies scrambling to cover up the full extent of the damage. Volkswagen ran a conspiracy for years to cover up how much polluting carbon its diesel vehicles were emitting (the cars were programmed to fool the testers). Most consequentially, Exxon and several other oil majors ran a conspiracy to spread doubt and confusion about the reality of climate change for decades, taking a page from the tobacco giants. These are just the barest of examples.</p></blockquote><h3><strong>A Dish of Spaghetti Thrown at the Wall</strong></h3><p>The fact is that the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL movement</a> is an incestuous tangle of researchers, activists, policymakers, wealthy donors, tech CEOs, think tanks, organizations, institutes, and AI companies all driven by a common eschatological belief system: we must build a Machine God, create a new posthuman species, colonize the universe, and establish a sprawling multigalactic civilization high up on the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale">Kardashev scale</a>.</p><p>There <em>is</em> a sense in which this is a <em>conspiracy</em>. The people sharing this belief system all know each other. They&#8217;ve all hung out at conferences and private parties. They&#8217;ve exchanged ideas on the same email lists. They run the major AI companies, as well as the &#8220;AI safety&#8221; organizations trying to stop those AI companies.</p><p>Even those in the community who appear to dislike each other, such as Eliezer Yudkowsky and Dario Amodei, have extensive personal histories, and despite their disagreements about ASI existential risk, both Yudkowsky and Amodei are <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/under-a-mask-of-ai-doomerism-the-familiar-face-of-eugenics/">trying to realize</a> the <a href="https://darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace">very same cosmic</a> &#8220;utopia&#8221; through the creation of artificial superintelligence (ASI).</p><p>To make this more concrete, let&#8217;s zoom in on a tiny segment of the social network that comprises the TESCREAL movement, focusing on names like:</p><ul><li><p>Shane Legg</p></li><li><p>Ben Goertzel</p></li><li><p>Eliezer Yudkowsky</p></li><li><p>Demis Hassabis</p></li><li><p>Dario Amodei</p></li><li><p>Leopold von Aschenbrenner</p></li><li><p>Holden Karnofsky</p></li><li><p>William MacAskill</p></li><li><p>Nick Bostrom</p></li><li><p>Ray Kurzweil</p></li><li><p>Elon Musk, and</p></li><li><p>Jaan Tallinn</p></li></ul><p>This will get messy, but the messiness is part of the point. I feel confident in saying that you&#8217;ll want to read this entire section carefully, maybe twice. It gets more outrageous the further along you read.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><strong>Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</strong></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>***</p><p>We begin with Shane Legg, whose 2008 PhD dissertation was titled &#8220;<a href="https://folia.unifr.ch/global/documents/317954">Machine Super Intelligence</a>.&#8221; For this, he <a href="https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/events/seminar-dr-shane-legg-what-can-the-architecture-of-the-brain-teach-us-about-artificial-intelligence">received a $10,000 award</a> from the Canadian Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence. That&#8217;s the (now-defunct) Canadian branch of Eliezer Yudkowsky&#8217;s <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000914073559/http://www.singinst.org/">Singularity Institute</a>, founded in 2000 and later rebranded as the <a href="https://intelligence.org">Machine Intelligence Research Institute</a> (MIRI).</p><p>From 1999 to 2001, Legg <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanelegg/details/experience/">worked for</a> Ben Goertzel&#8217;s company WebMind. In the mid-2000s, Goertzel co-edited <a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-540-68677-4">a book about human-level AI</a> that included a contribution from Yudkowsky, among others. The original title was <em>Real AI</em>, but Goertzel wanted something better. So <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20241128055157/https://goertzel.org/who-coined-the-term-agi/">he asked around for suggestions</a>, and Legg proposed &#8220;artificial general intelligence&#8221; (AGI, the precursor of ASI). This is how the term &#8220;AGI&#8221; became part of our shared lexicon, although &#8220;ASI&#8221; has become more popular among AI hypesters over the past year or so.</p><p>Three years after <em>Artificial General Intelligence</em> (2007) was published, Legg cofounded DeepMind with Demis Hassabis, a fellow transhumanist and singularitarian. DeepMind&#8217;s explicit goal was the creation of a Machine God. Like many in the ASI race, Legg first became interested in superintelligence <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMUdrUP-QCs&amp;t=4">after reading one of Ray Kurzweil&#8217;s books</a>, though he reports that Yudkowsky got him &#8220;<a href="https://www.wired.com/story/book-excerpt-the-optimist-open-ai-sam-altman/">obsessed</a>&#8221; with ASI. He even <a href="http://sl4.org/archive/author.html">exchanged emails</a> with Yudkowsky via the <a href="http://sl4.org/archive/">SL4 mailing list</a>, which Yudkowsky created in 2000 as &#8220;a refuge for discussion of advanced topics in transhumanism and the Singularity.&#8221;</p><p>Before founding <a href="https://singularitynet.io/aboutus/">SingularityNET</a>, Goertzel was an active member of the Extropian movement of the 1990s, along with Yudkowsky, <a href="https://www.extropy.org/events.htm">Kurzweil</a>, and Nick Bostrom. At various Singularity Summit events, he <a href="https://intelligence.org/singularitysummit/">shared the stage with</a> these people as well as his former employee Legg and Legg&#8217;s DeepMind cofounder, Hassabis (more on this below). The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_Summit">Singularity Summit</a> was an annual conference cofounded by Yudkowsky, Kurzweil, and Peter Thiel.</p><p>In 2008, Goertzel was hired as the &#8220;<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/ben-goertzel">Director of Research</a>&#8221; at Yudkowsky&#8217;s Singularity Institute (now MIRI). The following year, he convinced Jeffrey Epstein to <a href="https://www.longtermwiki.com/wiki/E851">donate $50k to the organization</a> (this money being passed on to another research group, I believe). In fact, Epstein had been financially supporting Goertzel <a href="https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02374114?view=inbox">since 2001</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Yudkowsky was one of <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000621223020/http://singinst.org/singularitarian/principles.html">the most prominent singularitarians</a> of the early 2000s, alongside Kurzweil. He founded the Singularity Institute (MIRI) to accelerate the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-transhumanism-a-religion?utm_source=publication-search">techno-rapture</a> and what he frequently calls our &#8220;<a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/under-a-mask-of-ai-doomerism-the-familiar-face-of-eugenics/">glorious transhumanist future</a>.&#8221; He also <a href="http://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.2Q00/author.html">participated heavily</a> in the Extropian movement, founded Rationalism, and has been highly influential within the Effective Altruist (EA) and longtermist communities. (William MacAskill once described him as a &#8220;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/podcasts/transcript-ezra-klein-interviews-will-macaskill.html">moral weirdo</a>,&#8221; which is among the highest praise one could get from a leading EA.)</p><p>The Singularity Institute was initially <a href="https://intelligence.org/topcontributors/">funded by Thiel</a> ($1,627,000). It also received money from Vitalik Buterin, Jaan Tallinn, OpenPhil (i.e., Open Philanthropy, now called Coefficient Giving), the last of which distributes money from Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz, a hardcore EA-longtermist. OpenPhil has employed Nick Beckstead, Holden Karnofsky, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-muehlhauser-15a09b26/">Luke Muehlhauser</a>, who was previously the Executive Director of Yudkowsky&#8217;s MIRI and subsequently became a Board Member at Anthropic.</p><p>Beckstead, one of the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/9a7xMXoSiQs3EYPA2/the-history-of-the-term-effective-altruism">earliest members of the EA movement</a>,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> cofounded longtermism along with Nick Bostrom, and was a <a href="https://www.nickbeckstead.com">Research Fellow</a> at Bostrom&#8217;s Future of Humanity Institute (FHI). After leaving OpenPhil, Beckstead <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-beckstead-7aa54374/">became the CEO of</a> Sam Bankman-Fried&#8217;s FTX Future Fund, co-run by Leopold Aschenbrenner, Amitav Balwit, and William MacAskill. (Note that Bankman-Fried was once the most prominent EA-longtermist in the world.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>)</p><p>The FTX Future Fund had a close relationship with FHI, both sharing the same EA-longtermist ideology. As an article in <em>Asterisk Magazine</em> <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/08/looking-back-at-the-future-of-humanity-institute">notes</a>,</p><blockquote><p>for a single, delirious summer, it seemed that every other person at Trajan House [where FHI was located], including FHI staff, was to-ing and fro-ing between Oxford and the Bahamas, where Sam Bankman-Fried was planning a barrage of longtermist philanthropy.</p></blockquote><p>According to the <em>New York Times</em>, &#8220;Bankman-Fried and his colleagues had fed at least $500 million into Anthropic&#8221; (which we&#8217;ll get to in a moment), and the <a href="https://x.com/robbensinger/status/1595895020347064320">FTX Future Fund offered Nate Soares</a>, a MIRI employee who coauthored <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/under-a-mask-of-ai-doomerism-the-familiar-face-of-eugenics/">a recent book with Yudkowsky</a>, $6k for advice on regranting. Another Bankman-Fried run company, Alameda Research, <a href="https://x.com/robbensinger/status/1595893840484843521">donated over $113k to MIRI</a>, as well as another <a href="https://x.com/robbensinger/status/1595894582985621506">$19k to an organization &#8220;housed&#8221; within MIRI</a> called AI Impacts.</p><p>In addition to working with Beckstead at the FTX Future Fund, Aschenbrenner was also <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/situational-awareness-leopold-aschenbrenner-ai-fund-4dbb00a4">an intern at Bostrom&#8217;s FHI</a> and its sibling organization at Oxford, <a href="https://www.forourposterity.com">the Global Priorities Institute</a>, <a href="https://www.humanities.ox.ac.uk/article/global-priorities-institute-opens-oxford">funded by OpenPhil</a> and cofounded by William MacAskill &#8212; an EA-longtermist and transhumanist who was the moral &#8220;advisor&#8221; of Bankman-Fried.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> (Whoops!) Aschenbrenner subsequently worked at OpenAI as part of the &#8220;Superalignment&#8221; team, <a href="https://openai.com/index/introducing-superalignment/">co-led by Ilya Sutskever</a>.</p><p>The CEO of OpenAI, Sam Altman, has been pictured partying with Yudkowsky and, like Shane Legg, <a href="https://x.com/sama/status/1621621724507938816">explicitly credits Yudkowsky</a> with inspiring him to pursue ASI. The <em>New York Times</em> describes him in a profile as being a &#8220;<a href="https://archive.is/SMSea">product</a>&#8221; of the EA (meaning, in this context, longtermist) and Rationalist movements.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fNen!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f09b8f1-d31c-4b12-a6b8-403880d1ed62_960x956.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fNen!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f09b8f1-d31c-4b12-a6b8-403880d1ed62_960x956.png 424w, 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As it happens, Grimes met Musk &#8212; her former partner &#8212; through the Rationalist movement founded by Yudkowsky.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In 2024, OpenAI fired Aschenbrenner for <a href="https://archive.is/yoKIy">sharing sensitive material from OpenAI with Holden Karnofsky</a>, who left OpenPhil in 2024 (as <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/holden-karnofsky-75970b7/">Director of AI Strategy</a>) and joined Anthropic in 2025. In his <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_We_Owe_the_Future">2022 book on longtermism</a>, MacAskill credits Karnofsky with having &#8220;a particularly profound impact on my broader thinking about longtermism.&#8221;</p><p>Following in the footsteps of Bankman-Fried, Aschenbrenner pursued the &#8220;<a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/earning-to-give">earn to give</a>&#8221; career path invented by EA. He started a hedge fund called Situational Awareness, which <a href="https://davidzmorris.substack.com/p/son-of-sam-aschenbrenner-was-sbf">imploded this summer</a>, losing $35 billion almost overnight.</p><p>This was <a href="https://www.wsj.com/finance/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-ai-fund-597633d3">just days before</a> Aschenbrenner&#8217;s wedding to Avital Balwit, the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/future-fund">former FTX Future Fund employee</a> who, like her now-husband, previously worked at Bostrom&#8217;s FHI and is currently the <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/avital-balwit-09a43938a/">Chief of Staff to Dario Amodei</a>, Anthropic&#8217;s CEO. In attendance at the wedding were Amodei and &#8220;<a href="https://archive.is/yoKIy#selection-2769.170-2769.381">more than a dozen Anthropic employees</a> &#8230; as well as MacAskill and others from the FTX Future Fund, plus effective altruists and the billionaires who had put their money into Situational Awareness.&#8221;</p><p>Alongside Beckstead and Karnofsky (who now works at Anthropic), Dario Amodei was <a href="https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/about-us/members">one of the earliest members of the EA movement</a>. According to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/technology/anthropic-ai-claude-chatbot.html">the </a><em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/technology/anthropic-ai-claude-chatbot.html">New York Times</a></em>,</p><blockquote><p>all of the major AI labs and safety research organizations contain some trace of effective altruism<span>&#8217;</span>s influence, and many count believers among their staff members. &#8230; No major AI lab embodies the EA ethos as fully as Anthropic. Many of the company<span>&#8217;</span>s early hires were effective altruists, and much of its start-up funding came from wealthy EA-affiliated tech executives.</p></blockquote><p>Like Legg, Dario Amodei <a href="https://readwise.io/reader/shared/01jvn06xfy172qtncg858tq59y/?ref=matsbs.com">cites Kurzweil as having piqued his interest in ASI</a>. He&#8217;s also shared the stage with Yudkowsky in discussing the promises and perils of ASI, and he spent years <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/anthropic-hired-president-daniela-amodei-211154529.html">living with Karnofsky</a> (they were roommates). Indeed, Karnofsky would later <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/anthropic-hired-president-daniela-amodei-211154529.html">marry Dario&#8217;s sister</a>, Daniella, who cofounded Anthropic with her brother after both quit working for OpenAI.</p><p>In addition to money from the FTX Future Fund, Anthropic has been funded by OpenPhil (where Karnofsky worked) and <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-raises-124-million-to-build-more-reliable-general-ai-systems">Jaan Tallinn</a> (one of the most prolific funders of the TESCREAL movement).</p><p>Another noted figure at Anthropic is the utilitarian longtermist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Askell">Amanda Askell</a>, the former wife of William MacAskill, who was involved in the early EA movement and received her undergraduate degree at Oxford, where <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pXrDmqDA63Wrffxmo/my-job-ea-office-manager">FHI and the Global Priorities Institute were based</a>. (MacAskill changed his surname from &#8220;Crouch&#8221; upon marrying Amanda.)</p><p>In 2017, while still an employee at OpenAI, Dario Amodei <a href="https://futureoflife.org/event/bai-2017/">joined a conference panel</a> on ASI with Nate Soares (of MIRI, also Yudkowsky&#8217;s coauthor) and Shane Legg (of the Thiel-funded DeepMind). The conference was <a href="https://futureoflife.org/event/bai-2017/">hosted by the Future of Life Institute</a> (FLI), which was cofounded by Tallinn and Max Tegmark, the latter of whom has <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/438754b.pdf">collaborated with Bostrom</a>. Musk and Bostrom were both <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221107230739/https://futureoflife.org/about-us/our-people/">external advisors</a> at FLI.</p><p>Also present at the conference &#8212; sponsored by Musk, Tallinn, and OpenPhil &#8212; was:</p><ul><li><p>Musk (who has promoted the work of <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1529172099503357954?lang=en">Bostrom</a> and <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1554335028313718784">MacAskill</a>, even calling longtermism &#8220;a close match for my philosophy&#8221;)</p></li><li><p>Eliezer Yudkowsky</p></li><li><p>Holden Karnofsky</p></li><li><p>Ray Kurzweil</p></li><li><p>William MacAskill</p></li><li><p>Nick Bostrom</p></li><li><p>Max Tegmark</p></li><li><p>Jaan Tallinn</p></li><li><p>Demis Hassabis</p></li><li><p>Sam Altman</p></li><li><p>Paul Christiano (who was also roommates with Karnofsky and Amodei)</p></li><li><p>Jason Matheny (a former FHI researcher who went on to run IARPA and is now the CEO of RAND Corporation)</p></li><li><p>Ilya Sutskever (a noted figure at OpenAI until he quit &#8212; Sutskever has parroted Yudkowsky in arguing that ASI could kill everyone on Earth. Recall that Aschenbrenner worked under Sutskever on the &#8220;Superalignment&#8221; team)</p></li><li><p>Helen Toner (a hardcore EA-longtermist who served on OpenAI&#8217;s board and voted to fire Altman in 2023)</p></li><li><p>Larry Page (a former close friend of Musk&#8217;s who personally hired Kurzweil to work at Google)</p></li><li><p>Eric Schmidt</p></li><li><p>Reid Hoffman</p></li><li><p>Vitalik Buterin (recipient of the Thiel Fellowship who donated $665 million to FLI and once <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/660e95991cf0293c2463bcc8/t/661a3fc3cecceb2b8ffce80d/1712996303164/FHI+Final+Report.pdf">participated in</a> an FHI conference)</p></li></ul><p>Going back in time a bit: Seven years before the FLI conference, Hassabis and Legg both <a href="https://intelligence.org/singularitysummit/">gave talks at the 2010 Singularity Summit</a> alongside Goertzel, Yudkowsky, and Kurzweil. (In fact, Legg and Yudkowsky were <a href="https://intelligence.org/singularitysummit/">on the same panel</a>.) Recall that Yudkowsky, Kurzweil, and Thiel founded the summit.</p><p>After the summit ended, Hassabis followed Thiel back to his mansion and asked for money to start DeepMind, which Thiel gave him. Hassabis later <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/08/looking-back-at-the-future-of-humanity-institute">delivered a talk</a> at the 2011 Winter Intelligence conference hosted by Bostrom&#8217;s FHI (image below), and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/04/google-deepmind-ai-artificial-intelligence-ethics-group-problems">hired Bostrom to be a member of</a> DeepMind&#8217;s Ethics &amp; Society research unit.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kfnP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13843492-ddd5-4234-8aed-e753c5c4fd4b_2436x1466.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/660e95991cf0293c2463bcc8/t/661a3fc3cecceb2b8ffce80d/1712996303164/FHI+Final+Report.pdf">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Taking a closer look at Bostrom, who constitutes a central node in the TESCREAL network: Alongside Yudkowsky, Goertzel, and Kurzweil, he was an <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">early member of the Extropian movement</a>, and he&#8217;s become one of the most influential transhumanists today. His <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence:_Paths,_Dangers,_Strategies">2014 book</a> on the dangers of ASI was <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/495759307346952192?lang=en">blurbed by Musk</a>, and &#8212; as noted &#8212; he cofounded the longtermist ideology with Beckstead (of FHI, FTX, and OpenPhil).</p><p>Bostrom has also been a major figure in Yudkowsky&#8217;s Rationalist and MacAskill&#8217;s EA movements. He&#8217;s <a href="http://faculty.smcm.edu/acjamieson/s13/artificialintelligence.pdf">coauthored papers</a> with Yudkowsky, and <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best">many of his &#8220;original&#8221; ideas about ASI came from </a>the Rationalist founder. (As Goertzel once <a href="http://jetpress.org/v25.2/goertzel.htm">wrote</a>, &#8220;scratch the surface of Bostrom, find Yudkowsky.&#8221;)</p><p>Before it was shut down &#8212; thanks in part to <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">a racist email from Bostrom</a> that I uncovered in late 2022 &#8212; FHI shared office space in Oxford&#8217;s <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pXrDmqDA63Wrffxmo/my-job-ea-office-manager">Trajan House</a> with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Effective_Altruism">Centre for Effective Altruism</a>, cofounded by MacAskill, who <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210727043038/https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/the-team/">also worked for Bostrom at FHI</a> and, once again, cofounded the Global Priorities Institute that hired Aschenbrenner. In 2015, Musk <a href="https://futureoflife.org/fli-projects/elon-musk-donates-10m-to-our-research-program/">donated $10 million</a> to FLI, which funneled some of these riches to FHI.</p><p>Recall that FHI had close connections with FTX, run by MacAskill&#8217;s advisee, Bankman-Fried, who&#8217;s now in federal prison. It also had connections with OpenAI. (Altman once <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1">described</a> Bostrom&#8217;s 2014 book as &#8220;the best thing I&#8217;ve seen on this topic.&#8221;) In 2018, a group of FHI researchers <a href="https://openai.com/index/preparing-for-malicious-uses-of-ai/">coauthored a paper about AI risk</a> with OpenAI.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> Notable <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.07228">names on the paper</a> include Helen Toner, Dario Amodei (still at OpenAI, along with his sister, Karnofsky&#8217;s wife), and Carrick Flynn.</p><p>As it happens, Flynn was a former FHI researcher who <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Carrick_Flynn">ran for congress</a> several years ago in Oregon. His campaign boasted of <a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1097691538/bitter-feuds-and-crypto-ties-inside-one-of-the-most-expensive-democratic-primari">more than $10 million from Bankman-Fried</a>, which &#8220;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1097691538/bitter-feuds-and-crypto-ties-inside-one-of-the-most-expensive-democratic-primari">is considered</a> an astronomical figure for a House Democratic primary.&#8221; His campaign manager? <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/crypto-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-funds-house-candidate-carrick-flynn/">None other than Balwit</a>, the former employee under Beckstead at the FTX Future Fund, who now works for Dario Amodei and is married to Aschenbrenner.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><strong>Please consider becoming a subscriber &#8212; especially a paid subscriber. I need only 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year, thus making articles like this possible. Thank you for your support, friends. I really appreciate it! :-)</strong></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3><strong>A Conspiratorial Afterimage</strong></h3><p>Believe me when I tell you that this is a <em>tiny, tiny glimpse </em>at how incestuous the ASI race &#8212; driven by the TESCREAL movement &#8212; is. An exhaustive account would require, I&#8217;d say, 100 pages of dense reading like that above.</p><p>If one were to compile such a document, you&#8217;d find the same people, think tanks, companies, etc. popping up over and over again. As mentioned earlier, these people all know each other. They&#8217;re all part of the same fringe eschatological movement (though that movement is hugely powerful in Silicon Valley, and hence the world more generally) with the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">shared goal of building a Digital Deity and conquering the cosmos</a> as radically transformed <em>digital space brains</em>. Even a cursory glance at this network leaves a conspiratorial afterimage, like the floating dots of colors you see after looking at a bright object and then closing your eyes.</p><p>Indeed, it&#8217;s worth adding briefly that many notable media figures have connections to this movement, including <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pnp8iGow8RuKqn6uv/ezra-klein-and-will-macaskill-on-longtermism">Ezra Klein</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUMHN93Oi6w">Sam Harris</a>, and Kelsey Piper. The last of these <a href="https://x.com/molly0xFFF/status/1714798402016342344">knew Bankman-Fried</a>, is friends with Yudkowsky, and writes for the <em>Vox</em> vertical Future Perfect, which <a href="https://www.vox.com/funding">was funded by FTX</a>. Even more striking is the fact that Ross Douthat, formerly of the <em>New York Times</em> and now a correspondent at CBS&#8217;s 60 Minutes, officiated Aschenbrenner&#8217;s wedding. (Side note: the <em>New York Post </em><a href="https://nypost.com/2026/08/26/business/leopold-aschenbrenner-promised-to-buy-wife-galaxy-then-his-45b-hedge-fund-blew-up/">reports</a> that Aschenbrenner promised &#8220;his future wife he would someday buy her not a yacht or a mansion, but a galaxy.&#8221; Lolz.)</p><p>Here&#8217;s how Wikipedia <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy">defines</a> a &#8220;conspiracy&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p>[A] plan or agreement between people &#8230; for an unlawful or harmful purpose, such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder">murder</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason">treason</a>, or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption">corruption</a>, especially with a political motivation, while keeping their agreement <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret">secret</a> from the public or from other people affected by it. In a political sense, conspiracy refers to a group of people united in the goal of subverting established <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power">political power</a> structures. This can take the form of usurping or altering them, or even continually illegally profiteering from certain activities in a way that weakens the establishment with help from various political authorities.</p></blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think the TESCREAL movement, which <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">admits of many minor variations</a>, is cohesive enough to justify calling it a &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; without significant qualifications. But it <em>is</em> conspiracy-like. The difference between a real conspiracy and a conspiracy theory is, of course, <em>epistemological</em>: it depends on the totality of the available evidence. As Naomi Klein implies, there <em>is</em> ample evidence to justify describing Big Oil&#8217;s efforts to mislead the public about climate change as a conspiracy. But there <em>isn&#8217;t</em> any good evidence (!) to support the claim that commercial airplanes are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory">spewing biological or chemical agents</a> into the atmosphere, or that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_truth_movement">9/11 was an inside job</a>.</p><p>If one seriously examines the cluster-fuck of connections within the TESCREAL movement, and between the TESCREAL movement and the leading AI companies, it becomes clear that calling it &#8220;conspiracy-like&#8221; is epistemologically warranted. Or so I would argue.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>But what do you think? What am I wrong about? As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For more on Epstein&#8217;s connections to the TESCREAL movement, see <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/jeffrey-epstein-the-transhumanist-pedophile-who-hoped-to-live-forever/">this article</a> of mine.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He even <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/9a7xMXoSiQs3EYPA2/the-history-of-the-term-effective-altruism">helped name</a> the movement &#8220;Effective Altruism.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Recall that longtermism is just transhumanism plus space expansionism, built on totalist utilitarian foundations.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In fact, MacAskill also tried to convince Musk, in private text messages, to buy Twitter with Bankman-Fried.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Plus some researchers from other organizations.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Worry About the ASI Race?]]></title><description><![CDATA[(1,600 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-worry-about-the-asi-race</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-worry-about-the-asi-race</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2026 16:19:27 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/872c8a9d-825e-44ce-bb60-d914c576868f_2997x3383.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4>Disambiguating a Common Phrase</h4><p>Since I&#8217;m technically on vacation right now (until September 1), I thought I&#8217;d publish a relatively short piece on a phrase I hear a lot these days: &#8220;the danger of the race to build ASI&#8221; (artificial superintelligence). It&#8217;s worth noting, I think, that this phrase is ambiguous. It can mean two radically different things.</p><p>On the one hand, people in the field of AI safety &#8212; many of whom are &#8220;doomers&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> &#8212; believe the ASI race is dangerous because <em>it will result in ASI</em>. Specifically, they believe it will likely result in <em>misaligned</em> ASI unless significant steps are taken to ensure that ASI is &#8220;value-aligned&#8221; (by which they typically mean &#8220;aligned with the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL worldview</a>&#8221;). Many of these people will add that ASI is imminent, and hence that everyone on Earth will die in the very near future.</p><p>On the other hand, when people like me talk about &#8220;the dangers of the ASI race,&#8221; we typically mean that <em>trying to build ASI itself</em> poses significant threats to individuals, democratic societies, and perhaps even humanity itself. Many of us don&#8217;t believe that ASI is imminent &#8212; if it&#8217;s even possible to build, assuming the term is meaningful in the first place. But this is beside the point. The fact is that rushing toward what the AI companies call &#8220;ASI&#8221; has inflicted, and will continue to inflict, <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5870623">serious harms on society</a> and the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/171080523/deepfake-doctors-and-ai-induced-psychosis">individuals who comprise it</a>.</p><p>Hence, <strong>worrying about the dangers of the ASI race doesn&#8217;t </strong><em><strong>commit</strong></em><strong> one to a </strong><em><strong>belief</strong></em><strong> that ASI will arrive anytime soon, if ever</strong>. By analogy, you could imagine multiple companies racing to build a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion"><span>perpetual motion machine</span></a> (PMM). They pour huge amounts of money into their respective projects, polluting the environment, exacerbating climate change, destroying communities, etc. in the process. Despite the fact that PMMs are physically impossible, according to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics"><span>laws of thermodynamics</span></a>, one could still talk about &#8220;the dangers of <em>the race</em> to PMM&#8221; &#8212; an imaginary end-goal that these companies will never reach.</p><p>The same goes for the ASI race. I think this is important to note because referring to &#8220;the dangers of the ASI race&#8221; could be misunderstood as suggesting that one believes ASI is possible and imminent. One interpretation of the critiques of scholars like Emily Bender, Alex Hanna, Timnit Gebru, etc. is that they are deeply concerned about the ASI race &#8212; that is, it&#8217;s deleterious consequences &#8212; despite them believing (as I understand their views) that <em>ASI</em> isn&#8217;t even a coherent concept.</p><p>Whenever you hear someone talking about the ASI race being dangerous, it&#8217;s worth taking a minute to decipher what they mean. Are they referring to the <em>race itself</em>, or the anticipated <em>outcome</em> of this race?</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I need only 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills in 2026. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber &#8212; for only $7 a month! (I will reduce this fee once I reach $20k a year.) There is almost no money for critics of the TESCREAL movement, so anything you can spare would be greatly appreciated. You can also support me on <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-my-monthly-bills-and-book-launch"><span>GoFundMe</span></a> and <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/xriskology"><span>Patreon</span></a>. Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>AI Ethics vs. AI Safety</h4><p>This ties into another issue worth mentioning, I think. It concerns the distinction between AI ethics and AI safety. One often hears this distinction elucidated as follows: AI ethics focuses on near-term risks whereas AI safety focuses on long-term risks.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>But this is misleading. For example, AI ethicists worry about the environmental consequences of current AI systems &#8212; seen by the AI companies as the stepping-stones to ASI. (Hence, to build ASI, we must first build systems like ChatGPT-5, Claude Mythos, etc.) AI has a nontrivial carbon footprint, and indeed the CO2 emissions of companies like <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/google-emissions-ai-electricity-demand-derail-efforts-green">Google</a> and <a href="https://www.esgtoday.com/microsofts-carbon-footprint-jumps-25-as-ai-buildout-challenges-climate-goals/">Microsoft</a> have risen &#8212; despite promises to be carbon-neutral or carbon-negative by 2030 &#8212; due almost entirely to AI.</p><p>But, of course, climate change is a <em>long-term risk</em>. The CO2 injected into the atmosphere right now will linger for millennia, affecting the livability of Earth for the next 10,000 years &#8212; a longer period of time than civilization has so far existed.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>On the flip side, many AI safetyists and doomers believe that ASI could arrive in the next few years, and that, since we don&#8217;t yet know how to &#8220;align&#8221; it with our (i.e., the TESCREAL worldview&#8217;s) values, it will annihilate humanity by default. This is clearly a near-term risk, as it would mean the untimely death of you and me, our children and parents, and everyone else alive a few years from now.</p><p>A better way of understanding the difference between AI ethics and AI safety is in terms of the distinction made above. Those in the first camp are mostly concerned with the externalities of attempting to build ASI, while those in the second tend to ignore or minimize the inimical effects of the race itself, focusing instead on the &#8220;existential&#8221; stakes of actually building a superintelligent machine.</p><p>Herein lies the most salient difference between these two fields.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>History Detour</strong>:</p><p>AI safety, by the way, is an outgrowth of the TESCREAL movement. It started as a subfield of <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3730000">Existential Risk Studies</a>, which encompasses a wide range of &#8220;existential risks&#8221; arising from synthetic biology (engineered pandemics), natural pandemics, molecular nanotechnology (gray goo), nuclear war, asteroid and comet impacts, volcanic supereruptions, gamma ray bursts, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Existential_threat">vacuum decay</a>, and even our simulation getting shut down (lol).</p><p>Because many existential risks scholars &#8212; such as myself, back in the day &#8212; believed that ASI likely poses the most significant near-term existential risk, a subfield gradually coalesced around the subject, with its own unique terminology, hypotheses, norms, and paradigms. A key figure in the founding of AI safety was, of course, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/eliezer-yudkowskys-long-history-of?utm_source=publication-search"><span>Eliezer Yudkowsky</span></a>, a goofball whose roots in the TESCREAL movement go back to the Extropian movement of the 1990s.</p><p>In more detail: Existential Risk Studies emerged as a branch of the TESCREAL movement. The idea was this: to create a posthuman paradise among the stars, we will <em>need</em> to develop advanced technologies. How else will we reengineer humanity and conquer the cosmos? However, such technologies will introduce unprecedented threats &#8212; existential risks &#8212; to this future. Since we can&#8217;t <em>not</em> develop these technologies (because then we&#8217;d never reach utopia), the only path forward is to develop synthetic biology, molecular nanotechnology, and ASI as <em>carefully </em>as possible. Existential Risk Studies was founded to study the risks associated with these technologies and devise effective strategies for neutralizing them. This is what my <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/QA9qefK7CbzBfRczY/the-25-researchers-who-have-published-the-largest-number-of">work for some 10 years focused on</a>.</p><p>AI safety then arose <em>within</em> Existential Risk Studies because many saw ASI as imminent and particularly dangerous. If we ensure that ASI is &#8220;aligned&#8221; (with the TESCREAL worldview), then &#8220;we&#8221; get to live forever in a cosmic utopia marked by &#8220;astronomical&#8221; amounts of value. But if it&#8217;s &#8220;misaligned,&#8221; then everyone on Earth will perish and, <em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/further-loss-views">much worse</a></em>, our posthuman descendants will lose the opportunity to flood our future light cone with &#8220;value.&#8221;</p><p>Of note is that AI safety has recently expanded <em>beyond</em> the TESCREAL movement. Whereas virtually all early practitioners in the field were committed to the TESCREAL worldview, there is a growing number of people working on AI safety projects who <em>aren&#8217;t </em>TESCREALists. So far as I can tell, David Kruger provides an example. These people aren&#8217;t so much focused on how misaligned ASI would foreclose what Toby Ord calls our &#8220;<a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Precipice/3aSiDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=%22vast+and+glorious%22+toby+ord&amp;pg=PT222&amp;printsec=frontcover">vast and glorious</a>&#8221; future as posthumans <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/astronomical-waste/">living in giant computer simulations</a> spread throughout the cosmos, but rather on how misaligned ASI would kill the entire human population. It&#8217;s the death of these people &#8212; including you and me &#8212; that matter to them and thus motivate their AI safety research, not the utopian promise of posthumans in a cosmic paradise.</p><p>This is an interesting development. If you agree with me that TESCREALism is a kind of new religion, you might say that the field of AI safety is being <em>secularized</em>.</p></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>My Current View</h4><p>What are my views on the matter? I mentioned above that my primary concern is the harms caused by <em>trying to build</em> ASI. Such harms include:</p><ul><li><p>exploiting workers in the Global South,</p></li><li><p>stealing our intellectual property,</p></li><li><p>exacerbating climate change,</p></li><li><p>sucking up massive amounts of energy,</p></li><li><p>flooding the Internet with slop, disinformation, and deepfakes,</p></li><li><p>inducing episodes of psychosis in vulnerable populations,</p></li><li><p>perpetuating harmful stereotypes due to algorithmic bias,</p></li><li><p>enabling unprecedented levels of mass surveillance,</p></li><li><p>working with the US military,</p></li><li><p><em>and so on</em>.</p></li></ul><p>I see <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/stop-believing-the-lie-that-agi-is?utm_source=publication-search">no reason for believing that</a> ASI is imminent, and indeed the <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">TESCREAL pro-extinctionist</a> Sam Altman <a href="https://x.com/firesidealpha/status/2091506987137896560">recently acknowledged</a> that the hype around ASI has been overblown. Altman, of course, has been one of the biggest hypesters out there, even arguing last year that <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/the-gentle-singularity">the Singularity has already started</a>.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;9c842738-9920-4b65-95a3-342cf6dc3346&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>I&#8217;m not even sure that the term &#8220;ASI&#8221; is meaningful, as no one can agree on a definition and the concept of <em>intelligence</em> itself is poorly defined. (To a great extent, our contemporary notion of intelligence has been influenced by the eugenics movement, which has morphed into the TESCREAL movement. Hence, Gebru and I <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">characterize TESCREALism as</a> the most recent iteration of the &#8220;eternal return of eugenics.&#8221;)</p><p>That said, it also seems clear to me &#8212; I think &#8212; that if the AI companies <em>were</em> to build a system that could outmaneuver us in every important respect, solve complex problems much faster than we can, set and modify its own goals without human intervention, and act as autonomous agents in the world, then we&#8217;re in very big trouble. I don&#8217;t see any good reason for thinking that our species would survive for very long competing against an artificial system of this sort. You can call that &#8220;ASI,&#8221; but you don&#8217;t need to, to grasp the danger.</p><p>Hence, if the ASI race <em>succeeds</em> in building an &#8220;ASI,&#8221; the outcome would likely be terrible. (Even the &#8220;good&#8221; outcomes would be terrible, as <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">these would also inevitably lead to the extermination of our species</a>.) But I don&#8217;t think the ASI race will &#8220;succeed,&#8221; at least not anytime soon, and thus when I talk about &#8220;the dangers of the ASI race,&#8221; I mean &#8220;the dangers of <em>trying to build</em> this thing called &#8216;ASI,&#8217; whatever that is exactly.&#8221;</p><p>But what do you think? What am I missing? Is this distinction useful? (It is in my own mind!) As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That is, they got into the field of AI safety <em>because</em> they have a high p(doom).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For more on the animosity between these fields, see <a href="https://www.math.chalmers.se/~olleh/AIethicsVSAIsafety.pdf">this article</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To paraphrase an article that I&#8217;m unable to find at the moment.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Leopold von Aschenbrenner: The New Sam Bankman-Fried?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Plus, Dario Amodei&#8217;s wife tried to get Jeffrey Epstein to fund her "luxury porn" company. (2,600 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/leopold-von-aschenbrenner-the-new</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/leopold-von-aschenbrenner-the-new</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 14:56:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fd79c7aa-6b4c-41c3-8f2f-aeb168607870_800x800.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Cover photo is from <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leopold-aschenbrenner/">here</a>.</em></p><p><strong>Summary</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a><strong>:</strong></p><p>A woman named Cami Clark, who hung out with EA-longtermists and married one of the most powerful EA-longtermists in the world (Dario Amodei), exchanged emails with Jeffrey Epstein after his 2008 conviction in hopes of getting him to fund her porn company, whose tagline was: &#8220;intellectually promiscuous.&#8221;</p><p>Another leading EA-longtermist, Leopold Aschenbrenner, who worked for Bankman-Fried&#8217;s FTX Future Fund and married a former colleague at the Future Fund, Avital Balwit &#8212; who now works for Clark&#8217;s husband, Amodei &#8212; started a hedge fund that invested heavily in Anthropic and recently lost $35 billion of its $45 billion AUM.</p><p>Lol.</p><h2>Dario Amodei&#8217;s Wife Tried to Get Jeffrey Epstein to Fund Her &#8220;Luxury Porn&#8221; Company</h2><p>Last February, I wrote <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/jeffrey-epstein-the-transhumanist-pedophile-who-hoped-to-live-forever/">a </a><em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/jeffrey-epstein-the-transhumanist-pedophile-who-hoped-to-live-forever/">Truthdig</a></em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/jeffrey-epstein-the-transhumanist-pedophile-who-hoped-to-live-forever/"> article</a> about Jeffrey Epstein&#8217;s extensive connections to the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">transhumanist community</a>. Epstein himself was a transhumanist and eugenicist (but I repeat myself) who wanted to have his head and penis cryogenically frozen and aimed to create a &#8220;<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/01/jeffrey-epstein-seed-human-race-report">super-race of humans with his DNA</a>&#8221; by impregnating up to 20 women at a time on his Zorro Ranch.</p><p>He was in contact with <a href="https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/2082631490840760622?s=46">Bryan Johnson</a>, and appears to have met Aubry de Grey (the longevity researcher) over Skype. He was also pals with <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-political-power-of-eschatological-82b?utm_source=publication-search">Peter Thiel</a> and Peter Diamandis, and exchanged emails with Elon Musk, who <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/internet-sleuths-just-found-something-141718078.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACsoivuEguNqELGliKrfrvRnqM7tpVhVBSAIMXpRDFaP4PaJ5DRIvJo2aakrI1I1OtV37Ow4BuNHIn8a4a6f7pyMMYbls9lsACKstnfwPaKXQ2eojpWg5etDRw8yhpz0ledgXxTFPIw1FYCrKAsZIASAeAb2PuZ0NtJ8T8QjAh-E">practically begged Epstein</a> to let him visit the pedophile and sex trafficker&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James">home-base in the Virgin Islands</a>.</p><p>Epstein was also long-time buddies with Ben Goertzel, who congratulated Epstein when he emerged from prison in 2009, convinced Epstein to transfer $50,000 to Eliezer Yudkowsky&#8217;s Singularity Institute (now the Machine Intelligence Research Institute), and <a href="https://x.com/_KarenHao/status/2023639847844610232">wrote the following</a> to Epstein after sending him birthday wishes:</p><blockquote><p>Now if you want to have 100000 more birthdays you should fund my AI project so we can create a thinking machine that will solve the problem of mortality!!!</p></blockquote><p>These are just a few examples of Epstein&#8217;s connections to the TESCREAL movement.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I need only 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year. (I am stuck at this number!) Please consider becoming a paid subscriber &#8212; for only $7 a month! There is almost no money for critics of the TESCREAL movement, so anything you can spare would be greatly appreciated. You can also support me on <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-my-monthly-bills-and-book-launch">GoFundMe</a> and <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/xriskology">Patreon</a>. Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>***</p><p>It turns out that Epstein was also friendly with <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/08/14/who-is-cami-clark-anthropic-ceos-wife-asked-epstein-to-invest-in-porn-business/">Cami Clark</a>, the wife of Anthropic CEO <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-companies-are-destroying-the-world?utm_source=publication-search">Dario Amodei</a>. Previously, Clark had dated Eric Schmidt, the former Google CEO who claimed <a href="https://mashable.com/article/former-google-ceo-invest-ai-despite-climate-concerns">we should build ASI (artificial superintelligence) despite the environmental costs</a>. She married Amodei in 2022 (having been married once before to an architect who was 64 years old while she was just 20).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg" width="636" height="424.33125" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:854,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:636,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Even Claude Is in the Dark About Dario Amodei's Wife&#8212;and Her Influence at  Anthropic - WSJ&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Even Claude Is in the Dark About Dario Amodei's Wife&#8212;and Her Influence at  Anthropic - WSJ" title="Even Claude Is in the Dark About Dario Amodei's Wife&#8212;and Her Influence at  Anthropic - WSJ" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oK1w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4025a19e-c83d-47db-9d53-1d15e2db3280_1280x854.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/claude-dario-amodei-wife-anthropic-e1eeda7d">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>As <em>Forbes</em> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/08/14/who-is-cami-clark-anthropic-ceos-wife-asked-epstein-to-invest-in-porn-business/">reports</a>:</p><blockquote><ul><li><p>Her previous attempted businesses include founding a self-described &#8220;free luxury porn&#8221; company that catered to women and a &#8220;social dieting app.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Clark met Epstein in March 2011 through John Brockman, a literary agent who knew Epstein, with <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260815004621/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00653864.pdf"><span>emails</span></a> in the Epstein files showing Brockman telling Epstein he &#8220;should connect for dinner with my girls,&#8221; referring to Clark and her business partner Michelle Capocefalo. [The full quote is: &#8220;You should connect for dinner with my girls &#8212; Cami and Michelle. They&#8217;re in LA raising money for porn movie aimed at women&#8217;s market.&#8221;]</p></li><li><p>&#8220;We would love to have dinner with you this evening,&#8221; Cami said in an email responding to Brockman&#8217;s introduction, then sending an <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260815004621/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02688552.pdf"><span>email</span></a> the next day that passed along her company&#8217;s funding requirements and exclaimed, &#8220;It was FANTASTIC meeting you last night!&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Clark then asked Epstein in a March 2012 email exchange about whether he&#8217;d be interested in investing in her and a colleague&#8217;s businesses, though there&#8217;s no indication in the Epstein files that the financier made any investment.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p>The porn company was apparently called Eddice. It &#8220;<a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/claude-dario-amodei-wife-anthropic-e1eeda7d">described itself </a>as a &#8216;revolutionary porn company&#8217;&#8221; that emphasized &#8220;sex positivity in a male-oriented porn industry, and carried the tagline: &#8216;intellectually promiscuous.&#8217;&#8221;</p><p>All of this happened <em>after</em> Epstein pled guilty to soliciting prostitution from a minor and spent 13 months in prison &#8212; out of the 18 months he was sentenced to in a &#8220;<a href="https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/oversight-democrats-statement-public-release-epstein-prosecutor-and-former">sweetheart deal</a>.&#8221; Upon being released, he almost immediately began <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/20/politics/roza-gilles-jeffrey-epstein-victim-abuse">raping an 18-year-old woman</a> who had &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Conviction_and_sentencing_(2008%E2%80%932011)">recently arrived</a> from Uzbekistan.&#8221;</p><p>As with Noam Chomsky, who <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/noam-chomsky-is-a-scumbag?utm_source=publication-search">became close friends with Epstein</a>, Clark appears not to have cared that Epstein was a registered sex offender.</p><p><em>Forbes</em> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/08/14/who-is-cami-clark-anthropic-ceos-wife-asked-epstein-to-invest-in-porn-business/">continues</a>:</p><blockquote><p>After their initial introduction through Brockman, Clark <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260815004621/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00702664.pdf"><span>sent</span></a> Epstein the script and treatment for her company&#8217;s first films a few days later in March 2011, noting she thought Epstein &#8220;and the ladies&#8221; might enjoy them and saying the content was &#8220;a little nsfw.&#8221; Clark&#8217;s March 2012 <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260815004621/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00718989.pdf"><span>exchange</span></a> with Epstein is the lengthiest conversation between them that appears in the Epstein files, with Epstein initially asking, &#8220;i&#8217;m sorry, who is this,&#8221; after Clark reached out and asked to put Epstein in touch with another female entrepreneur launching a lingerie line. When Clark reminded him that she has the &#8220;free luxury porn company&#8221; and asked if that &#8220;ring[s] a bell,&#8221; Epstein responded, &#8220;yes, a loud gong.&#8221; (&#8220;I was going to say, you would be the first person ever that didn&#8217;t remember us :),&#8221; Clark responded.) &#8230; Epstein then asked what happened to Clark&#8217;s business plans with the porn company and she said they were moving &#8220;full speed ahead,&#8221; pitching Epstein on investing in her company&#8217;s foray into video. &#8220;Can&#8217;t do TV sex,&#8221; Epstein responded, to which Clark said, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t think so :).&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>Forbes</em> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/08/14/who-is-cami-clark-anthropic-ceos-wife-asked-epstein-to-invest-in-porn-business/">adds</a> that &#8220;other emails in the Epstein files show Clark keeping the financier on her email list &#8212; <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260815004621/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02558207.pdf"><span>inviting</span></a> him to a housewarming party in July 2012 &#8212; and that Epstein <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20260815004621/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01965385.pdf"><span>connected</span></a> with her on LinkedIn a year later in 2013.&#8221;</p><p>***</p><p>Clark has almost no online footprint. She keeps a low profile, but appears to be influential behind the scenes, even playing a role in getting Anthropic early funding. As the <em>Wall Street Journal</em>, which broke the story, <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/claude-dario-amodei-wife-anthropic-e1eeda7d">observes</a>:</p><blockquote><p>When Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi invited AI leaders to a meeting in New <a href="https://archive.is/o/rQZE7/https://www.wsj.com/topics/place/delhi">Delhi</a> earlier this year, security protocols allowed each executive to bring one additional person with them. Most brought colleagues, but Anthropic CEO <a href="https://archive.is/o/rQZE7/https://www.wsj.com/topics/person/dario-amodei">Dario Amodei</a> brought his wife, Cami Clark.</p><p>Clark doesn&#8217;t work at Anthropic, but she is often seen sitting in the front row while Amodei talks at events such as Davos or can be found chatting up investors at gatherings such as the Allen &amp; Co. conference in Sun Valley.</p><p>She acts as a sounding board and strategic adviser for Amodei, according to people close to the company. She also brought Anthropic a key early investor, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt &#8212; whom she had dated &#8212; as it was getting off the ground in early 2021, some of the people said.</p></blockquote><p>WSJ also <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/claude-dario-amodei-wife-anthropic-e1eeda7d">notes</a> that</p><blockquote><p>Clark spent time at the group house in San Francisco where Amodei, his friend Holden Karnofsky and his sister, Daniela &#8212; who would later marry Karnofsky &#8212; lived with other key figures from the AI safety and Effective Altruism worlds. The movement, centered largely in Silicon Valley, aims to use data and reason to determine how to do the most good possible.</p></blockquote><p>And:</p><blockquote><p>Clark has recently told people involved in politics that the company sees its mission as protecting America and isn&#8217;t as &#8220;woke&#8221; as its detractors might think it is, according to people familiar with the matter.</p><p>At the Sun Valley conference in July, where she spent much of the week by her husband&#8217;s side, she had lunch with Ivanka Trump, a friend, and chatted with Jared Kushner, whom Amodei had approached earlier in the year to invest, people familiar with the matter said.</p></blockquote><p>She strikes me as a hyper-ambitious person with low moral standards, which of course describes many power-hungry vultures in Silicon Valley &#8212; including her husband. I wonder who else in the TESCREAL/ASI race has had connections with Epstein that haven&#8217;t yet been reported.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I need only 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber &#8212; for only $7 a month! There is almost no money for critics of the TESCREAL movement, so anything you can spare would be greatly appreciated. You can also support me on <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-my-monthly-bills-and-book-launch">GoFundMe</a> and <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/xriskology">Patreon</a>. Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Womp Womp: Situational Awareness Loses $35 Billion</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg" width="434" height="289.54" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:467,&quot;width&quot;:700,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:434,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Leopold Aschenbrenner, head of hedge fund firm Situational Awareness&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Leopold Aschenbrenner, head of hedge fund firm Situational Awareness" title="Leopold Aschenbrenner, head of hedge fund firm Situational Awareness" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sqaT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bf41e2b-992a-44f7-8270-d16377268d82_700x467.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-wall-street-lesson-ai-stocks-2026-7">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Leopold von Aschenbrenner &#8212; a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_Aschenbrenner#Early_life">German-born</a> investor and AI safety researcher whose name I jokingly add the aristocratic &#8220;von&#8221; to &#8212; is an <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/effective-altruism-is-a-dangerous?utm_source=publication-search">Effective Altruist</a> (EA) and longtermist who gained a bit of Silicon Valley fame for his wildly hyperbolic 2024 essay, &#8220;<a href="https://situational-awareness.ai">Situational Awareness</a>.&#8221; In it, he hyperventilates about ASI being imminent and argues that it&#8217;s very important for the US to win the ASI race against China.</p><p>Here&#8217;s what I write about his essay in my forthcoming book on the TESCREAL ideologies:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>[Aschenbrenner] <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/zmRTWsYZ4ifQKrX26/summary-of-situational-awareness-the-decade-ahead">contends that</a> &#8220;China is still competitive in the AGI race, and China being first to superintelligence would be very bad because it may enable a stable totalitarian world regime. So the US must win to preserve a liberal world order.&#8221; The obvious problem is that the US isn&#8217;t much better than China right now. The current US president is a twice-impeached convicted felon who embraces fascist authoritarianism. He inspired a mob of MAGA supporters to perpetrate an insurrection in hopes of preventing the peaceful transfer of power in 2024 &#8212; essentially, the goal was to overthrow the US government.</p><p>Xi Jinping in China would no doubt strive to implement a totalitarian state. Aschenbrenner is right about that. But so would Donald Trump. China engages in mass surveillance of its citizens, but so does the US. The AI companies themselves are complicit in this, as Anthropic is working with Palantir, a mass surveillance company, while OpenAI is okay with the Pentagon using its AI models for the purposes of mass domestic surveillance.</p><p>Hence, the geopolitical race to AGI isn&#8217;t actually between democracy and authoritarianism. It&#8217;s between two variants of authoritarianism: US-style fascism and Chinese-style communism. Whichever country builds ASI first, the outcome is bound to be bad for everyone. <strong>Ironically, Aschenbrenner appears to be situationally unaware of this fact</strong>.</p></div><p>Aschenbrenner&#8217;s &#8220;impressive&#8221; CV includes a stint at <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-altruists-a-new-netflix-series">Sam Bankman-Fried</a>&#8217;s cryptocurrency exchange platform, FTX. Specifically, he worked for the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/future-fund">FTX Future Fund</a>, run by Nick Beckstead &#8212; the longtermist who <a href="https://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/rutgers-lib/40469/">argued</a> that we should prioritize saving the lives of people in rich countries. The Future Fund also gave <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/01/technology/sam-bankman-fried-crypto-artificial-intelligence.html">$500 million in funding to Anthropic</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BuJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BuJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BuJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BuJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BuJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BuJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png" width="728" height="427.14696132596686" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a2426d17-b409-4016-94b9-14946b8a90ca_905x531.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:531,&quot;width&quot;:905,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:728,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;To take another example, saving lives in poor countries may have signi\u001ccantly smaller ripple e\u001bects\nthan saving and improving lives in rich countries. Why? Richer countries have substantially more\ninnovation, and their workers are much more economically productive. By ordinary standards\u0016at\nleast by ordinary enlightened humanitarian standards\u0016saving and improving lives in rich countries\nis about equally as important as saving and improving lives in poor countries, provided lives are\nimproved by roughly comparable amounts. But it now seems more plausible to me that saving a life\nin a rich country is substantially more important than saving a life in a poor country, other things\nbeing equal.\n&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="To take another example, saving lives in poor countries may have signi&#28;cantly smaller ripple e&#27;ects
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improved by roughly comparable amounts. But it now seems more plausible to me that saving a life
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being equal.
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than saving and improving lives in rich countries. Why? Richer countries have substantially more
innovation, and their workers are much more economically productive. By ordinary standards&#22;at
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is about equally as important as saving and improving lives in poor countries, provided lives are
improved by roughly comparable amounts. But it now seems more plausible to me that saving a life
in a rich country is substantially more important than saving a life in a poor country, other things
being equal.
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From <a href="https://x.com/xriskology/status/1570066245763883010/photo/1">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>While still a teenager, he wrote a paper titled &#8220;<a href="https://leopoldaschenbrenner.github.io/xriskandgrowth/ExistentialRiskAndGrowth050.pdf">Existential Risk and Growth</a>,&#8221; and cofounded the Effective Altruism club at Columbia University when he was a student there. He spent time at the Future of Humanity Institute (before it was shut down due in part to <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">a racist email from it&#8217;s founder</a> that I uncovered in late 2022), as well as Will MacAskill&#8217;s Global Priorities Institute. He later <a href="https://openai.com/index/introducing-superalignment/">joined OpenAI&#8217;s &#8220;Superalignment&#8221; team</a>, but left after OpenAI <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/31/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-fund-fire-sale.html">accused him of sharing</a> confidential documents (which von Aschenbrenner disputes).</p><p>Following his viral-in-the-Valley 2024 essay, he founded a hedge fund of the same name: Situational Awareness, which he <a href="https://situational-awareness.ai/leopold-aschenbrenner/">describes</a> as &#8220;<span>an </span>investment<span> firm focused on AGI</span>.&#8221; At its peak, Situational Awareness had $45 billion assets under management (AUM), but last month it lost a catastrophically huge $35 billion. That still leaves an eye-watering $10 billion behind, but the massive drop in assets <a href="https://davidzmorris.substack.com/p/son-of-sam-aschenbrenner-was-sbf">reminded many</a> of the ignominious collapse of Aschenbrenner&#8217;s former employer: Bankman-Fried.</p><p>As CNBC <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/31/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-fund-fire-sale.html">reports</a>,</p><blockquote><p>critics pointed out that Aschenbrenner had no experience running money prior to launching his fund in July 2024, calling him more lucky than smart. Some noted that his early work experience was at the doomed crypto firm FTX, where he helped now-disgraced founder Sam Bankman-Fried run a charity out of a Bahamas penthouse.</p><p>&#8220;A lot of people saw this blow-up as a matter of not if, but when,&#8221; said <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrydiao/"><span>Jerry Diao</span></a>, who runs a Wall Street coaching firm. &#8220;Maybe his views on AI are correct in the long run, but in the public markets, you have to be prepared for the short-term.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>The <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/31/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-fund-fire-sale.html">same article</a> opens with the rather sardonic line: &#8220;Two years ago, <span>Leopold Aschenbrenner</span> argued he was one of few people in the world who saw the future clearly.&#8221; Now, von Aschenbrenner has made himself the butt of jokes and thrust EA into the spotlight once again. (Aschenbrenner was essentially <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/earning-to-give">earning to give</a>, the very same career path that led Bankman-Fried into crypto.)</p><p>As my friend <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;David Z. Morris&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:2306832,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c7945427-9671-4304-86ec-37eb4fcc3f5c_2208x2208.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;6be85694-6f76-499b-b6e3-d10f3e067b6e&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> writes in a quite amusing article, &#8220;<a href="https://davidzmorris.substack.com/p/son-of-sam-aschenbrenner-was-sbf">Son of Sam: Aschenbrenner was SBF 2.0</a>&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p>An infamous Effective Altruist thought experiment is &#8220;the coin flip to end the world.&#8221; Sam Bankman-Fried interpreted this as an injunction to take catastrophic risk if the average &#8220;expected value&#8221; of winning a long bet was even slightly positive.</p><p>That high-risk mindset also seems to have ruled at Situational Awareness, a huge, AI-focused hedge fund that <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/31/why-leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-hedge-fund-imploded.html"><span>exploded in blood and guts last week</span></a>. It was run by a deeply involved Effective Altruist named Leo Aschenbrenner.</p><p>Aschenbrenner&#8217;s downfall very closely tracks that of Sam Bankman-Fried. Specifically in that they were both young, loved using very high leverage in volatile markets, believed trend-lines only go up, and apparently thought risk management is for cowards.</p></blockquote><p>Morris <a href="https://davidzmorris.substack.com/p/son-of-sam-aschenbrenner-was-sbf">continues</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Aschenbrenner still got caught by the exact same ratchet that killed SBF.</p><p>Situational Awareness LP grew incredibly fast after 2024, to a peak of $45 billion in AUM, by using high leverage to bet on the continued rapid growth of AI. Aschenbrenner had kept making the same bet for years, at larger and larger size, to the point where his leverage may have been propelling the broader market.</p><p>Then July was choppy for AI stocks &#8212; incredibly, even $Nvidia was flat - and that was all it took to destroy Situational Awareness. &#8230;</p><p>[T]he linear, predictionist modelling that rules EA, alongside the idea that its adherents are uniquely genetically gifted, lead believers to take on extreme risk and, inevitably, to blowups like Aschenbrenner&#8217;s.</p></blockquote><p>He further <a href="https://davidzmorris.substack.com/p/son-of-sam-aschenbrenner-was-sbf">notes</a> that, almost comically,</p><blockquote><p>Aschenbrenner&#8217;s unluckiest investors lost something like 110% of the current mark-to-market value of their assets.</p><p><strong>That means Leo Aschenbrenner was far, far worse for many investors than Sam Bankman-Fried was for FTX depositors</strong>.</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I need only 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber &#8212; for only $7 a month! There is almost no money for critics of the TESCREAL movement, so anything you can spare would be greatly appreciated. You can also support me on <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-my-monthly-bills-and-book-launch">GoFundMe</a> and <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/xriskology">Patreon</a>. Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/firstadopter/status/2089456764643148251&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Biggest trading loss of all time?\n\nFT: \&quot;On Friday, MainFT scooped the overall impact of Leopold Aschenbrenner&#8217;s $35bn July trading loss on Jane Street Capital&#8217;s own, otherwise enviable, investment record.\n\nAnd the losses generated by Aschenbrenner&#8217;s leveraged AI stock bets put &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;firstadopter&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;tae kim&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2038758350561607680/NDo0EYpY_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-17T20:58:07.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HP89vfsXoAAk-Uq.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/UbEAxNdB57&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:13,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:22,&quot;like_count&quot;:182,&quot;impression_count&quot;:134603,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>***</p><p>Of note is that von Aschenbrenner&#8217;s wedding to Avital Balwit happened just weeks after the $35 billion loss. Balwit is Dario Amodei&#8217;s chief of staff at Anthropic and a <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/future-fund">former employe at</a> Bankman-Fried&#8217;s FTX Future Fund &#8212; just like her husband was. Note also that Situational Awareness had <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/31/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-fund-fire-sale.html">a multi-billion-dollar investment in Anthropic</a>. As Morris <a href="https://davidzmorris.substack.com/p/son-of-sam-aschenbrenner-was-sbf">observes</a>, &#8220;the largest remaining asset in Situational Awareness LP portfolio is reportedly a large stake of illiquid Anthropic equity.&#8221; (This community is so incestuous!) </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gy-p!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0098333d-9a25-4017-b1b9-0f86ed9183c4_1636x1674.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gy-p!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0098333d-9a25-4017-b1b9-0f86ed9183c4_1636x1674.png 424w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://www.wsj.com/finance/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-ai-fund-597633d3">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Balwit, I should add, wrote <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/kageSSDLSMpuwkPKK/response-to-recent-criticisms-of-longtermism-1#What_is_longtermism__">a long response back in 2021</a> to a couple of articles I published critiquing longtermism &#8212; an ideology that both she and her husband obviously subscribe to. Her critique of my critique is pretty abysmal, spurring me to <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/7WxH7fAq76Mvkx5YC/a-harmful-idea">write a response</a> in which I dissect each paragraph, showing how far her criticisms miss the mark. I had some personal communication with her because I sent her my response prior to publication for comments. (A courtesy I always extended to EAs and longtermists, though they never reciprocated.)</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>In a parallel universe, where I <em>wasn&#8217;t</em> moved by considerations of moral and intellectual integrity to abscond from the TESCREAL movement, it&#8217;s entirely possible that I, too, would be working at Anthropic, making perhaps <strong>half-a-million dollars or more per year</strong>. It&#8217;s pretty wild to think. As one prominent EA <a href="https://x.com/NathanpmYoung/status/2044719475551867188">noted on social media</a>: &#8220;<span>The only kinds of groups I know of more predictive of wealth than &#8216;reading LessWrong in 2015&#8217; is like &#8216;holding bitcoin in 2011&#8217; or &#8216;working at a hedge fund.&#8217;&#8221; That was me: reading LessWrong in 2015!</span></p><p><span>In other words, the TESCREAL community takes care of its own. There are tens of billions in funding, and money gets around. Although my departure from the movement was inevitable &#8212; given that I </span><em><span>do</span></em><span> care about integrity &#8212; it&#8217;s wild to think about where I might be if I&#8217;d remained, especially given that I was once listed as </span><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/QA9qefK7CbzBfRczY/the-25-researchers-who-have-published-the-largest-number-of"><span>the 6th most prolific contributor</span></a><span> to the academic literature on existential risks!</span></p><p><span>This is precisely why &#8212; if it&#8217;s not too crass for me to mention here &#8212; you should consider supporting me on </span><em><span>Substack</span></em><span>, </span><a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-my-monthly-bills-and-book-launch"><span>GoFundMe</span></a><span>, or </span><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/xriskology"><span>Patreon</span></a><span>. There just isn&#8217;t much money going around for critics of the TESCREAL cult.</span></p></div><p>Anyways, the whole von Aschenbrenner debacle is rather hilarious. As I wrote years ago, EA is the gift that keeps giving to critics.</p><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><p>PS. In case you need a chuckle, I saw this on Facebook the other day. :-)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xAs7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a8caaa-e892-41d1-a3dc-7f4f748ecd62_1079x1300.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xAs7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a8caaa-e892-41d1-a3dc-7f4f748ecd62_1079x1300.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xAs7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a8caaa-e892-41d1-a3dc-7f4f748ecd62_1079x1300.jpeg 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>CORRECTION: In the original post, I accidentally wrote &#8220;$45 billion&#8221; on a few occasions instead of &#8220;$35 billion,&#8221; which is how much Situational Awareness lost. My apology for the error!</strong></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Not AI! :-)</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Connor Leahy Copies the TESCREAL Thesis in a Recent Interview]]></title><description><![CDATA[(8,500 words, but 14,400 words if footnotes are included.)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/connor-leahy-copies-the-tescreal</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/connor-leahy-copies-the-tescreal</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2026 13:48:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8e925453-bf11-4e9b-b3dd-977a33e29846_1280x1600.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is the second article I will have published in three weeks on someone copying the ideas of others. The timing is interesting &#8212; and coincidental &#8212; given the complete shitshow surrounding Dr. Jason Arday, who recently died after being <a href="https://x.com/NewBlackMan/status/2088687437237326228">hounded by the media for weeks</a> about his apparent plagiarism. As the <a href="https://x.com/xriskology/status/2088552440551342304">lack of media interest in my article about Nick Bostrom</a> shows, no one cares when white men repackage other people&#8217;s ideas as their own.</em></p><p><em>The following piece is <strong>far longer than usual</strong>. It will be most relevant to those with a strong interest in the TESCREAL thesis. The footnotes, in particular, contain a wealth of information about how I&#8217;ve outlined and elucidated this thesis over the years. A shorter, more accessible article will be published tomorrow. Thanks so much, friends!</em></p><div><hr></div><p>tl;dr</p><ol><li><p>Connor Leahy offers an intellectual history of the Silicon Valley worldview that is strikingly similar to the history outlined by Timnit Gebru and myself.</p></li><li><p>He highlights the TESREAL (no &#8220;C&#8221;) ideologies as having played an integral role in launching the race to build ASI (artificial superintelligence), whereas we highlight the TESCREAL ideologies.</p></li><li><p>In copious footnotes, I show that many of Leahy&#8217;s claims are nearly identical to claims I&#8217;ve made in articles and interviews over the past many years.</p></li><li><p>This cannot be a coincidence, since it&#8217;s impossible to work in the space of AI and not have come across my work (solo and with Gebru) on the TESCREAL bundle.</p></li></ol><div><hr></div><p><em>Very, very few people have told this story in any good sense. I would love for more people to tell this story &#8216;cause it&#8217;s [a] fucking crazy story, man. Oh man. So the story as we have it today with, like, you know, this, like, ChatGPT and AGI and ASI and AI risk. All of this stuff descends from this one weird offshoot 1980s group of futurists called the Extropians.</em></p><p><em>&#8212; Connor Leahy, <a href="https://www.longview.report/thelastinvention/the-ai-doomers">November 6, 2025</a>.</em></p><p>Connor Leahy is the <a href="https://www.conjecture.dev/about">cofounder of Conjecture</a>, an AI safety organization at which he was CEO until this year, and he cofounded a nonprofit AI research company called EleutherAI. He is currently the US Director at ControlAI, which is seeking <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/50-million-a-year-for-a-10-chance-to-ban-share-7452428050643943424-pgOy/">$50 million in annual funding</a>. According to Wikipedia, &#8220;h<span>e has testified before the </span>House of Commons of Canada<span> and participated in the inaugural </span>AI Safety Summit<span> in 2023.&#8221; He has appeared </span><a href="http://ickbostrom.com"><span>multiple times</span></a><span> on CNN, as well as </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vt7E1z_N3o"><span>CBS</span></a><span>, </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fzYX0uiBfQ&amp;pp=ygURY29ubm9yIGxlYWh5IG5ld3M%3D"><span>ABC News</span></a><span> (Australia), </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWPOzYddZg"><span>Al Jazeera English</span></a><span>, </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPaF6TypfX8&amp;pp=ygURY29ubm9yIGxlYWh5IG5ld3M%3D"><span>BBC</span></a><span>, and countless popular podcasts, stacking up millions of views.</span></p><p><span>He mentions in many interviews that he speaks to policymakers in DC, </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-j-leahy/"><span>where he&#8217;s based</span></a><span>, about AI existential risk. If you read or write about AI, there&#8217;s no way you&#8217;ve missed him. He has become one of the leading voices warning about the annihilatory dangers of misaligned ASI (artificial superintelligence).</span></p><div id="youtube2-XOkUlQoLpL0" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;XOkUlQoLpL0&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/XOkUlQoLpL0?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Recently, he gave an interview on the Onezero podcast hosted by Robert Wright, whose work I admire. It&#8217;s titled &#8220;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw1GFui-Ndw">The Ideology Behind AI</a>,&#8221; which happens to be a primary focus of my research over the past many years. I found this interview to be deeply problematic, and am inclined to describe Leahy&#8217;s conduct as unethical.</p><p>But first, it will be useful to provide an overview of Leahy&#8217;s basic argument. Take note, if you&#8217;d like, of the copious footnotes pointing to articles, interviews, and tweets in which I have made virtually identical claims. My apologies for this overview being rather long (~2,000 words), but I believe this is necessary to make my point. Here goes:</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Leahy&#8217;s Analysis</h3><p><em>Note that I have slightly edited the quotes below to improve readability (e.g., removing words such as &#8220;like&#8221; and &#8220;you know&#8221;). The meaning remains intact.</em></p><p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a lot of really fascinating history&#8221; with respect to the &#8220;milieu&#8221; or &#8220;scene&#8221; out of which the ASI race emerged, Leahy says. The goal of creating God-like machines &#8220;didn&#8217;t come out of a vacuum. This is not the ruthless market decided [<em>sic</em>] this is the optimal thing to go for. These are ideas that actually grew out of a very specific ideological lineage that I would say really started with what is called the Extropians.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Extropianism, Leahy says, is a &#8220;particularly intense form of what&#8217;s called transhumanism more broadly. Transhumanism is a very, very broad set of philosophies that in various ways are about belief that humanity should be improved or transcended in various ways,&#8221; in particular, through technology that enables us to reengineer humanity.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>He says that &#8220;San Francisco as a place is, and Silicon Valley is, a really weird place.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> And it really has, I would say, three main ideological strengths that kind of all mix and mutate in this stew. And these three are the transhumanist, techno-utopian kind of visions<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> and also coming from golden-age sci-fi, and stuff like that, which we&#8217;re talking about. The other one is just cutthroat capitalism &#8212; libertarianism. And the third is true new age communist, you know, crazy hippie ideology. All of these are core to the soul of Silicon Valley.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> And if you neglect any one of them, you won&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s actually going on. So, all of these cultures of all these [AI] companies &#8230; should be understand [<em>sic</em>] as being influenced by these three large ideological clusters to varying degrees.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>&#8220;So,&#8221; he continues, &#8220;this is where I think the origin of this culture kind of comes from. And then the modern version of what you now see in many of these, like, AGI religions or cults almost<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> is coming from the Extropians,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> who are a particularly intense form of transhumanism that kind of emerged in the 80s by a guy named Max More &#8212; I think was the one who first coined the term.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> Extropianism was all about exponential growth.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> It was this idea that we could get exponential amounts of energy and growth and intelligence, and improve everything at unbelievable levels &#8230;&#8221;</p><p>He adds that Extropianism &#8220;was one of the first ones to really seriously grapple with some very intense ideas such as whole-brain uploading, immortality, and AGI &#8230; and superintelligence as concepts.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> They were some of the first people to really think seriously about some of these ideas in the 80s and the 90s.&#8221;</p><p>Leahy describes how <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/eliezer-yudkowskys-long-history-of?utm_source=publication-search">Eliezer Yudkowsky</a> befriended Max More and his wife, Natasha Vita-More, and how he &#8220;was someone who was very early on the Extropian mailing list, and so on, talking about these ideas of superintelligence. They didn&#8217;t exactly call it that back then, but that&#8217;s what they were talking about: this idea of, if you had this recursively self-improving AI that could improve itself, you could &#8230; build these incredibly powerful superintelligent beings that could cure all diseases, could solve all problems, could turn the whole universe into &#8230; nanobots, or whatever &#8212; like, really intense sci-fi stuff.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p><p>Leahy then notes that the SL4 mailing list grew out of the Extropians mailing list and Yudkowsky&#8217;s &#8220;interest in this topic in the late 90s and early 2000s.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> He actually splinters off from Extropians and creates&#8221; this alternative mailing list, &#8220;which is where we see some of the first overlap with some names you might otherwise recognize [from the AI world]. SL4 was a mailing list for talking about these most intense kind of &#8212; even more intense than Extropianism. Like, the most intense forms of future sci-fi speculation.&#8221; Names associated with the mailing list include Shane Legg, cofounder of DeepMind, and Nick Bostrom.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> Wright then mentions that Shane Legg coined the term &#8220;AGI&#8221; (artificial general intelligence, the precursor to ASI, though it&#8217;s sometimes used as shorthand for ASI), to which Leahy says, &#8220;I think he did. Yes, if I remember correctly.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a></p><p>Leahy observes that Yudkowsky &#8220;founded an organization called the Singularity Institute&#8221; in 2000.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a> &#8220;So, very ahead of his time.&#8221; The initial &#8220;goal was to build AI as fast as possible so that we could have AI that can take over the world and fix all the problems. &#8230; And so, at this time, this is what really would nowadays be called accelerationism.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> So, you know, the e/accs [effective accelerationists] are little, little babies compared to&#8221; Yudkowsky &#8212; &#8220;he was 20 years ahead of them,&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> although &#8220;there&#8217;s a broader category of accelerationism that I think is not specific to [him].&#8221; It has a connection to Nick Land.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a></p><p>Leahy then adds: &#8220;Fun fact, one of the first people to give [Yudkowsky] money was Peter Thiel.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> But Yudkowsky, in contrast to Thiel, later came to believe that &#8220;if you build something that smart, by default, this does not go well. And so he pivots entirely to thinking about, &#8216;How do you build safe AI?&#8217; How do you build safe &#8212; back then it&#8217;s called &#8216;Friendly AI,&#8217; but what we would call &#8216;safe&#8217; or &#8216;controllable&#8217; or &#8216;aligned.&#8217;&#8221; Consequently, Yudkowsky &#8220;started developing this ideology that he would call Rationalism.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a></p><p>He continues: &#8220;So, you said this kind of earlier which, like, oh there&#8217;s all these things going on that we just didn&#8217;t know about and it wasn&#8217;t like they were hiding it. Well you would be wrong: they were in fact hiding it. So, this was a thing in the early days of this movement &#8212; very early on there was a strong part of the ideology is that don&#8217;t tell people &#8212; don&#8217;t let the stupid unwashed masses know about this. Don&#8217;t let the government know about this because they&#8217;re, you know, they&#8217;re stupid. They don&#8217;t understand it. We the smart elites who are super-smart, we&#8217;re going to solve the problem. You know, we&#8217;re going to solve everything. You know, I just have to make sure that all these dumb, stupid, you know, normal people don&#8217;t get in the way.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a></p><p>Wright brings up the infighting in these groups, to which Leahy says: &#8220;this feels like it happens every six months &#8212; there&#8217;s a lot of infighting inside of these milieus.&#8221; He adds that one reason he&#8217;s &#8220;broken a lot with these group [<em>sic</em>] of people is because I think it is extremely bad to hide this kind of information from people in the government. I think people are allowed to have insight and make decision-making [<em>sic</em>] on this thing [i.e., building a Digital God]. Doing this unilaterally is deeply immoral.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a></p><p>Moving on with the story, Leahy notes that in the &#8220;second half of the 2000s, a couple really interesting things starts [<em>sic</em>] happening. One thing is, is that DeepMind is founded. DeepMind, including seed capital from Peter Thiel,&#8221; thanks to Yudkowsky introducing &#8220;Peter Thiel to Demis [Hassabis] and Shane [Legg] to get some other initiative.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> Although not &#8220;all of the money came from Peter Thiel or this one conversation [after the 2010 Singularity Summit], but it still was a pivotal moment and shows this overlap between the DeepMind and kind of the [Yudkowsky] and, like, this race dynamic thing.&#8221; The goal was to get all the smartest people &#8220;into one company and keep the government and everyone else away, then we can do it right. Then we can do it properly because then we will have control.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;So,&#8221; Leahy says, &#8220;I think we&#8217;re starting to assemble all the ideological building blocks that lead to the rickety edifice that we&#8217;re at now, where there&#8217;s one block missing, which is kind of Oxford University utilitarianism &#8212; Peter Singer and [William] MacAskill, which led to what is called Effective Altruism.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a> He notes that &#8220;in a sense there&#8217;s kind of a bait-and-switch, where you read the head on the tin, what EA says, and you say, &#8216;Well, that seems very reasonable,&#8217; but then if you open the tin you&#8217;re suddenly going to see a lot of crazy stuff.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a></p><p><em>There is only one possible thing Leahy could be referring to here, and that&#8217;s <strong>longtermism</strong>. Some longtermists themselves say that the ideology leads to &#8220;<a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23298870/effective-altruism-longtermism-will-macaskill-future">crazy town</a>.&#8221; As <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/publish/post/209132941#footnote-anchor-24">footnote 24</a> notes, longtermism was the primary focus of EA from its inception.</em></p><p>He continues: &#8220;You&#8217;re [<em>sic</em>] suddenly see your Anthropics, and your whatever &#8212; your people saying that actually replacing humans with AI is good, maybe, or that we have to race to ASI or like many, many crazy things.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a> What happened here? &#8220;What happened basically is that this pretty non-objectionable version of EA<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> merged through this shared link of utilitarianism with Rationalism and this libertarianism, Bay Area Silicon Valley culture, to create kind of the new mutant ideology. And this grew out to a large degree from &#8212; so, one of the largest and most important early EA organizations was called GiveWell.&#8221;</p><p>What&#8217;s that? GiveWell &#8220;was an organization that evaluated charities for effectiveness and would help you make better donations, which I think is a very reasonable thing to do. It was founded by a previous hedge fund manager named Holden Karnofsky. And Holden later then got to know one of the Facebook founders, Dustin Moskovitz. Dustin Moskovitz decided to donate a very, very large amount of money to a foundation that Holden Karnofsky would lead, and this became what is called Open Philanthropy.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a></p><p>That organization&#8217;s money has &#8220;gone to OpenAI, to Anthropic, to METR,&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> along with lots of AI safety groups. &#8220;What is important to understand about Open Philanthropy is that it is the beating heart of the financial system of EA &#8212; is that the engine that kind of fed Effective Altruism to a large degree in Silicon Valley specifically [i.e., the longtermist movement] came through Dustin Moskovitz&#8217;s money being funneled through Open Philanthropy. It&#8217;s hard to overstate how big of an influence they were.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a> Even more, Karnofsky married Dario Amodei&#8217;s sister, Daniella, and &#8220;in fact, Dario and Holden were roommates for over 10 years.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a></p><p>A key point here is that, Leahy says, &#8220;what you&#8217;ll see is that the same names keep popping up quite a bit. You can kind of pick and choose almost anyone of the, you know, here and there will be a connection. There will be a connection to OpenPhil or to MIRI. &#8230; DeepMind. These people all know each other.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a> And this is why I think it&#8217;s so fascinating, is that there was an AGI superintelligence scene long before the technology existed. Long before it existed, and it overlapped very heavily with these other adjacent ideologies like Rationalism and Effective Altruism, and so on. And this world is extremely incestuous &#8212; extremely incestuous.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a></p><p>Leahy notes once again that these are basically cults and, after Wright asks about the Venn diagram of all the ideological communities, Leahy describes it as &#8220;an extended cluster that is located primarily in Berkeley and San Francisco.&#8221; He adds: &#8220;There&#8217;s just an extended scene. It&#8217;s not one ideology. It&#8217;s a <em>scene</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a> Some of it is EA; some of it is Rationalism; some of it is just AI company employees.&#8221;</p><p>That said, it&#8217;s not the case that &#8220;everyone in Silicon Valley or at these AI companies is deeply part of this culture. But you&#8217;d be surprised how many are. You&#8217;d be surprised how much this culture has been very influential on the thoughts of people. Even the accelerationists, who &#8230; love to present themselves as the anti-EAs [but] they&#8217;re part of the same culture. They&#8217;re the same. &#8230; It&#8217;s just like there&#8217;s two bits of difference, but it&#8217;s like &#8230; almost everything is the same. It still comes with this techno-utopian vision, this vision of superintelligence, this openness to a lot of alternative strange things,&#8221; etc.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a> Leahy even adds that there is a lot of tension between some of these groups, drawing this analogy: &#8220;There&#8217;s the saying, &#8216;the only thing a leftist hates more than a rightwinger is another leftist,&#8217; right?&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a></p><p>At one point, Leahy declares to Wright that &#8220;the extended cluster of like all of these adjacent ideologies and beliefs<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a> doesn&#8217;t really have a name.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a> Wright also says during the conversation, rather humorously: &#8220;You know, I gotta say for people who [are] younger than me with great literary ambitions there is a great intellectual history to be done about all this, right?,&#8221; to which Leahy replies: &#8220;Oh yes, oh my god, like, there is. That will be unlike other intellectual history you know.&#8221;</p><h3>&#8220;TESREAL&#8221; Versus &#8220;TESCREAL&#8221;</h3><p>That&#8217;s the gist of Leahy&#8217;s analysis. I encourage you to listen to the entire interview yourself, beginning around 14:00, as there are many details that I don&#8217;t have space to mention here.</p><div id="youtube2-Zw1GFui-Ndw" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;Zw1GFui-Ndw&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Zw1GFui-Ndw?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>What do you think? Does Leahy&#8217;s analysis, um, sound familiar? <strong>He weaves together an intellectual history in which the main characters are </strong><em><strong>every letter in the TESCREAL acronym, presented in roughly that order, except for cosmism</strong></em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-40" href="#footnote-40" target="_self">40</a> That is, Leahy highlights:</p><ul><li><p><strong>T</strong>ranshumanism.</p></li><li><p><strong>E</strong>xtropianism.</p></li><li><p><strong>S</strong>ingularitarianism. (The idea that we should bring about the Singularity by triggering an &#8220;intelligence explosion,&#8221; in I. J. Good&#8217;s phraseology, via recursive self-improvement.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-41" href="#footnote-41" target="_self">41</a>)</p></li><li><p><strong>R</strong>ationalism.</p></li><li><p><strong>E</strong>ffective Altruism (EA).</p></li><li><p><strong>L</strong>ongtermism. (As noted, this is the version of EA that&#8217;s gained a foothold within the Valley. When people talk about EA in SV, especially with respect to the ASI race, they&#8217;re almost always referring to longtermism.)</p></li></ul><p>He adds that e/acc is yet another ingredient in the alphabet soup of ideologies, just as <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">Gebru and I do</a>, and as I do in <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">numerous solo articles</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jErcoUGOQ">interviews</a>.</p><p>His analysis centers around the <strong>TESREAL</strong> (no &#8220;C&#8221;) ideologies, plus &#8220;e/acc.&#8221; In exactly the same way, my analysis with Gebru centers around the <strong>TESCREAL</strong> ideologies, plus a &#8220;variant&#8221; called &#8220;e/acc&#8221; &#8212; which I have elsewhere characterized as <a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/06/24/ai-doomers-have-warned-of-the-tech-pocalypse-while-doing-their-best-to-accelerate-it/">a major camp within the TESCREAL movement</a>, the other being the doomers.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-42" href="#footnote-42" target="_self">42</a></p><p>Furthermore, Leahy refers to this as a &#8220;cluster&#8221; of ideologies, just as I&#8217;ve called it a &#8220;<a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">constellation</a>&#8221; and, back in 2023, a &#8220;<a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">cluster of ideologies</a>.&#8221; In our coauthored paper, Gebru and I refer to TESCREAL as a &#8220;<a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">bundle</a>.&#8221; Leahy says that these ideologies constitute &#8220;an extended scene,&#8221; whereas Gebru and I describe this cluster as a &#8220;<a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">movement</a>&#8221; (basically synonymous with &#8220;scene&#8221; in this context). Leahy also asserts, as noted above:</p><blockquote><p>I&#8217;m not saying by any means everyone in Silicon Valley or at these AI companies is deeply part of this culture. But you&#8217;d be surprised how many are &#8212; you&#8217;d be surprised how much this culture has been very influential on the thoughts of people.</p></blockquote><p>Gebru and I write:</p><blockquote><p>It is important to note that not everyone associated with ideologies in this bundle believes in the totality of the dominant views in this bundle, and some people may even object to being bundled in this manner. Many people working on AGI may be unaware of their proximity to TESCREAL views and communities. Our argument is that the TESCREAList ideologies drive the AGI race even though not everyone associated with the goal of building AGI subscribes to these worldviews.</p></blockquote><p>If you noticed the many footnotes I added to the previous section,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-43" href="#footnote-43" target="_self">43</a> you&#8217;ll see that <strong>nearly every important point that Leahy makes has been made previously by me (solo or with Gebru), sometimes using rather similar language</strong>. This isn&#8217;t <em>just</em> about the details. <strong>It&#8217;s about how those details hang together to form a panoramic narrative of intellectual history</strong>.</p><p>Indeed, many people have said things that are similar to particular claims found in my work (solo and with Gebru). But Gebru and I were the first to assemble the heap of these claims, along with many additional new claims, into a <em>comprehensive picture of the origins of the AGI race</em>.</p><p>Leahy&#8217;s TESREAL (no &#8220;C&#8221;) analysis is little more than my analysis with Gebru, minus our emphasis on the role that modern cosmism played in inspiring the ASI race. (The term &#8220;AGI&#8221; was popularized by a transhumanist, Extropian, singularitarian who founded modern cosmism. He also played an integral part in getting the field of ASI research off the ground. A deeper analysis would reveal that cosmism is an essential part of this intellectual history.)</p><p>It&#8217;s not that Leahy&#8217;s account is <em>somewhat similar</em> to ours/mine. The problem is that it&#8217;s <em>virtually identical</em> in every important sense.</p><h3>What Others Think</h3><p>Indeed, the reason I became aware of his interview with Wright was because a friend of mine, a lecturer (we&#8217;d say &#8220;assistant professor&#8221; in the States) who&#8217;s published extensively on transhumanism, sent it to me along with the message:</p><blockquote><p>He&#8217;s saying a lot of the stuff you and I talk about all of a sudden. Being clear about the link between transhumanism and the AI industry. Basically talks about them being a cult, doesn&#8217;t use the term TESCREAL. Feels like he&#8217;s been reading your articles. But doesn&#8217;t attribute. &#8230; He goes through the whole TESCREAL thing without ever saying TESCREAL. &#8230; I sent you that video cos I really thought he&#8217;s saying all your stuff without credit. It almost was weird him not mentioning [<em>sic</em>] the term TESCREAL given his thesis.</p></blockquote><p><em>(Note that the quote above and all those below have been reproduced with permission.)</em></p><p>After watching the interview myself, I was quite shocked by the <em>significant and extensive</em> similarities. So, I sent it to numerous friends and colleagues, asking for their opinion. Every one who reported having intimate familiarity with my work (solo and with Gebru) echoed the comments above. 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Another person who knows my work in depth said:</p><blockquote><p>I find it hard to believe that Mr. Leahy knows as much about AI as he does without also knowing that you and Dr. Gebru lay out the intellectual history which he discusses in your <em>First Monday</em> paper and elsewhere [a point that I will return to below]. For that reason, an accusation of plagiarism seems reasonable.</p></blockquote><p>Yet another person &#8212; a distinguished professor affiliated with Oxford &#8212; watched the first 25 minutes and said that, while Leahy&#8217;s analysis is similar to mine thus far, it&#8217;s not entirely clear that he&#8217;s an &#8220;intellectual thief.&#8221; I told them that the similarities become even more significant as the interview proceeds. The following day, this person sent me a second message:</p><blockquote><p>You&#8217;re right &#8212; it gets worse. He says &#8220;there&#8217;s no name&#8221; for the cluster of ideologies, his cult analysis, his claim that there are but &#8220;two bits of distance&#8221; between EAs and e/accs &#8230; I don&#8217;t know what to say. Your publication record is very clear and has been picked up by mainstream journalists. I only know Leahy from the AI doc [in which he aligns with the doomer camp]. Now he must sense that the tide is turning and he wants credit for calling it out. Yes, it&#8217;s ugly. He knows your work, for sure. What to do about it is another question&#8230;.so sorry&#8230;..</p></blockquote><p>I will include some additional quotes just like these below.</p><p>On Twitter, I brought up the issue with Wright, who asked me to clarify what I meant by &#8220;TESCREAL thesis.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-44" href="#footnote-44" target="_self">44</a> Here&#8217;s my abstract-length synopsis of my work (solo and with Gebru) over the past many years:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>[A] simple answer would be: one cannot make sense of the origins of the AGI race &#8212; or the way this race has been sustained and accelerated &#8212; without understanding a lineage of ideologies that dates back to the late 1980s and revolves around libertarian transhumanism. This lineage starts with Extropianism, which gave rise to singularitarianism (Extropians even coined &#8220;singularitarian&#8221;!), (modern) cosmism, Rationalism, and an ideological offshoot of EA called longtermism (when people talk about &#8220;EA&#8221; in SV, they&#8217;re really talking about longtermism). It has more recently split into competing camps of doomerism and accelerationism (both direct descendants of Extropianism, the latter of which is also influenced by Land).</p><p>Putting the thesis differently, the key claim is that libertarian transhumanism (Extropianism) gave rise to a cluster of overlapping and interrelated ideologies that have crucially shaped the orthodox Silicon Valley worldview and directly inspired the race to build God-like machines: all of the leading AI companies directly emerged out of the TESCREAL movement. This is what I&#8217;ve been arguing since 2022, though you can find me talking about the general idea on social media since 2019.</p></div><p>I&#8217;ve outlined this analysis in literally <em>hundreds</em> of articles, radio interviews, TV interviews, podcast interviews, and episodes of <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/DystopiaNow/home">my podcast </a><em><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/DystopiaNow/home">Dystopia Now</a> </em>with Kate Willett<em> </em>(which Leahy is welcome to appear on). Along with <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11229-025-05094-4">the Ethics of Human Extinction</a>, TESCREALism &#8212; the history of Silicon Valley ideologies and their relationship to the AGI race &#8212; has been a primary focus of my research since about 2021, when I published my first <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo?ref=disconnect.blog">systematic critique of EA/longtermism</a> in <em>Aeon</em>. (I hadn&#8217;t coined the &#8220;TESCREAL&#8221; term yet, but I was basically talking about the same phenomenon, as I see longtermism as being, in a particular sense, the culmination of the TESCREAL movement and <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">it&#8217;s pro-extinctionist implications</a>.)</p><p>A few examples:</p><ol><li><p><a href="https://www.salon.com/2023/06/11/ai-and-the-of-human-extinction-what-are-the-tech-bros-worried-about-its-not-you-and-me/">AI and the Threat of &#8220;Human Extinction&#8221;: What Are the Tech-Bros Worried About? It&#8217;s Not You and Me</a>. <em><strong>Salon</strong></em>. June 11, 2023.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">The Acronym Behind Our Wildest AI Dreams and Nightmares</a>. (Note that I didn&#8217;t choose the title!) <em><strong>Truthdig</strong></em>. June 15, 2023. </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/truthdig-live-event-whats-behind-the-race-to-create-artificial-general-intelligence/">What&#8217;s Behind the Race to Create Artificial General Intelligence? Understanding the TESCREAL Bundle of Ideologies</a>. (A discussion with Timnit Gebru.) <em><strong>Truthdig</strong></em>. July 28, 2023.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/does-agi-really-threaten-the-survival-of-the-species/">Does AGI Really Threaten the Survival of the Species?</a> <em><strong>Truthdig</strong></em>. June 30, 2023.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">&#8220;Effective Accelerationism&#8221; and the Pursuit of Cosmic Utopia</a>. <em><strong>Truthdig</strong></em>. December 14, 2023.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636">The TESCREAL bundle: Eugenics and the Promise of Utopia through Artificial General Intelligence</a>. <em><strong>First Monday</strong></em>. June 2024.</p></li><li><p><span>What Is the &#8220;TESCREAL Bundle&#8221;? Answering Some Frequently Asked Questions. </span><em><strong><span>Substack</span></strong></em><span>. </span>June 2024. <span>(Note that I recently unpublished this to rewrite it. It was online for at least a year or so.)</span></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-endgame-of-edgelord-eschatology/">The Endgame of Edgelord Eschatology</a>. <em><strong>Truthdig</strong></em>. April 25, 2025.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/63015/chapter-abstract/565959049?redirectedFrom=fulltext">TESCREAL</a>. <em><strong>Oxford Research Encyclopedia of Science, Technology, and Society</strong></em>. 2026 (a prepublication draft was available by March 2026).</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">Skeptical of the TESCREAL Acronym? Read This</a>. <em><strong>Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter</strong></em>. July 9, 2026.</p></li></ol><p>You can find more examples <a href="https://www.xriskology.com/popularmedia">here</a>, although this is not an exhaustive list. There&#8217;s also Gebru&#8217;s 2023 talk on the subject (below), as well as a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuLF33r9jUc">2024 conference</a> at The New School for Social Research that centered on the TESCREAL ideologies and featured speakers like Douglas Rushkoff, whose term &#8220;<a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/survival-of-the-richest">The Mindset</a>&#8221; overlaps in important ways with the TESCREAL concept.</p><div id="youtube2-P7XT4TWLzJw" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;P7XT4TWLzJw&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;2681s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/P7XT4TWLzJw?start=2681s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>I&#8217;ve also 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></div><figcaption class="image-caption">Screenshots from <em>In the Belly of AI</em>, where I discuss the intellectual history of Silicon Valley in terms of the TESCREAL ideologies.</figcaption></figure></div><p>As discussed in the final section of this article, I am constitutionally <em>disinclined</em> to complain about people &#8220;copying&#8221; or &#8220;plagiarizing&#8221; my work without attribution. <strong>The problem here is </strong><em><strong>how very similar</strong></em><strong> the picture Leahy paints is to the picture that Gebru and I present. There is hardly any substantive difference between his TESREAL account and our TESCREAL account</strong>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-45" href="#footnote-45" target="_self">45</a></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>On the origins of my collaboration with Gebru:</strong></p><p>In 2022, I began publishing a flurry of articles critiquing EA and longtermism. My real target was the TESCREAL ideologies, though I (with Gebru) hadn&#8217;t coined the term yet. That&#8217;s because longtermism <em>contains</em> transhumanism within it. As I&#8217;ve said before, longtermism is essentially transhumanism <em>plus</em> space expansionism, built on a broadly (totalist) utilitarian ethical foundation. And my understanding of transhumanism at the time was that the most influential version within the Valley was <em>libertarian</em> transhumanism, first instantiated by the Extropian movement in which people like Bostrom, Yudkowsky, Goertzel, Kurzweil, and others (even Hans Moravec!) participated.</p><p>Gebru was puzzled by the sudden fixation in her field of AI on what was then called &#8220;AGI,&#8221; and which now is often referred to as &#8220;ASI.&#8221; She stumbled upon some of my articles and had an &#8220;ah-ha&#8221; moment: the new obsession with AGI came from the EA-longtermist ideology.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-46" href="#footnote-46" target="_self">46</a> Advocates of this ideology saw it as the most straightforward path from here to a cosmic utopia &#8212; if AGI is &#8220;value-aligned.&#8221;</p><p>So, she contacted me and suggested that we write a paper together, which we started in late 2022 or early 2023 (I can&#8217;t recall). It was during this collaboration that I coined the term &#8220;TESCREAL.&#8221; The reason is that we found that one cannot give an exhaustive explanation of the <em>origins of the AGI race</em> without reference to all seven ideologies. But referencing these ideologies throughout the paper rendered it unreadable. Hence, I coined the acronym to streamline our discussion.</p><p>The resulting article was an intellectual history and critique of the Silicon Valley worldview that has launched, sustained, and accelerated the AGI race. If not for Timnit&#8217;s invitation to collaborate and subsequent contributions to this intellectual history, the term &#8220;TESCREAL&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t exist. She played an essential role in developing the TESCREAL concept and explanatory framework.</p><p>When I talk about &#8220;my work&#8221; below, I mean both my 2024 publication with her and my solo pieces. The TESCREAL paper was partly inspired by, and drew from, prior articles of mine, and much of my work since then has been elaborating various aspects of the TESCREAL framework.</p></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Why Not Cite Us?</h3><p>There are three possibilities<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-47" href="#footnote-47" target="_self">47</a>:</p><ol><li><p>Leahy isn&#8217;t familiar with my work on the topic. Hence, he is independently discovering my (and Gebru&#8217;s) analysis.</p></li><li><p>Leahy knows that my work on the topic exists but has misunderstood it. He doesn&#8217;t mention it because he considers it a flawed analysis, or doesn&#8217;t realize that his TESREAL account is, in fact, virtually identical.</p></li><li><p>Leahy is familiar with and understands my work on the topic, but he chose not to mention it despite outlining a virtually identical account.</p></li></ol><p>Taking these in order:</p><h4>1. Leahy Can&#8217;t Have Missed the TESCREAL Analysis</h4><p>If (1) is the case, then I&#8217;d say that Leahy hasn&#8217;t seriously researched the topic. It&#8217;s impossible to have missed the <em>hundreds</em> of publications, interviews, etc. that I (and Gebru, as well) have written or given. The foundational article with Gebru already has more than 300 citations, and scholars have published articles with &#8220;TESCREAL&#8221; literally in the title (e.g., <a href="https://www.akjournals.com/view/journals/2054/7/S1/article-p22.xml?body=contentsummary-27257">this one</a> examining the intersection between the TESCREAL community and psychedelics).</p><p>&#8220;TESCREAL&#8221; has <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL">its own Wikipedia entry</a>, as well as an entry in the <em>Oxford Research Encyclopedia</em> (linked above). People on the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/search?query=tescreal">EA Forum</a> and <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/RCDEFhCLcifogLwEm/exploring-the-anti-tescreal-ideology-and-the-roots-of-anti">LessWrong</a> have discussed the acronym, which some have included in the title of their articles, and Leahy has accounts on both websites (<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/users/npcollapse?from=search_autocomplete">here</a> and <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/users/npcollapse?from=search_autocomplete">here</a>). Sam Altman has referenced it on Twitter (below, LOL), Yudkowsky is aware of it, and Marc Andreessen even included &#8220;TESCREAList&#8221; in his Twitter bio in 2022. <em>And so on</em>.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/sama/status/1705483649540640874&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@xriskology</span> maybe tescreal? &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;sama&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Sam 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230523005947/https://twitter.com/pmarca">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>If you write about AI, and especially if you research the ideologies of Silicon Valley, <strong>you will inevitably come across my work</strong>. Literally the <strong>first website</strong> that comes up when you search &#8220;ideologies of Silicon Valley&#8221; on Google is a 2025 paper by Kendall Giles titled, &#8220;<a href="https://vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/items/2076e89e-199a-47cb-8bce-75098f7e81d0"><span>Silicon Valley Ideologies</span></a><span>.&#8221; Here&#8217;s an excerpt of the abstract:</span></p><blockquote><p><span>Through the quest for Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), </span><strong><span>the case illustrates how intellectuals and institutions, from OpenAI to Google, sell ideologies branded as TESCREAL</span></strong><span>: Transhumanism, Extropianism, Singularitarianism, Cosmism, Rationalism, Effective Altruism, and Longtermism. These ideologies predict posthuman evolutionary destinies, mind uploading, and space colonization, with speculative existential risk frequently taking precedence over near-term social harms like bias and inequality.</span></p></blockquote><p>Even more, I tagged Leahy in a tweet last year in which I intimated that he should cite me and Gebru when writing about the topic, as he published a 2025 report that included a section on the ideological nature of the ASI race (focusing primarily on singularitarianism).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tguz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd40b3dfb-16f7-45e8-8580-e051b88366c7_1202x722.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" 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Leahy&#8217;s Twitter handle is @NPCollapse.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Finally, <strong>Gebru and I are the only people who&#8217;ve discussed this specific topic in this particular way &#8212; it&#8217;s not like our analysis is a needle in the haystack</strong>. As alluded to, if you were to search for intellectual histories of the Silicon Valley worldview that&#8217;s driving the ASI race from 2022 to the present, you&#8217;d find very little except for our work. (There are exceptions, such as <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332289738_A_History_of_Transhumanism">Elise Bohan&#8217;s PhD dissertation</a> on the history of transhumanism, which <a href="https://pdf.thecompendium.ai/the_compendium.pdf">Leahy actually cites</a>, as well as Alexander Thomas&#8217; <em><a href="https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/the-politics-and-ethics-of-transhumanism">The Politics and Ethics of Transhumanism</a></em>.)</p><p>It is, therefore, utterly implausible that Leahy has never encountered my work during his &#8220;Internet archaeology&#8221; (his term) on the topic. As my colleague said above: &#8220;I find it hard to believe that Mr. Leahy knows as much about AI as he does without also knowing that you and Dr. Gebru lay out the intellectual history which he discusses in your <em>First Monday</em> paper and elsewhere.&#8221;</p><p>This was echoed by yet another person (not previously quoted), who remarked in a voice message to me:</p><blockquote><p>It&#8217;s hard to say directly, &#8220;Okay, this is clearly stolen ideas.&#8221; But, I would say that the issue is that it&#8217;s kind of hard to believe, especially since he has been in the scene, or in that general ideological landscape &#8230; that he has not come across you or Timnit &#8230; that is really where the rub is. Like, he must have at some point, since he has clearly researched it, and your name is just the one that comes up first. And, in that sense, I&#8217;m just on a basic level not buying it that it isn&#8217;t plagiarized. That seems like absolute bullshit. But it&#8217;s hard to say &#8212; it&#8217;s hard to prove.</p></blockquote><h4>2. A Genuinely Curious Person</h4><p>If (2) is the case, then I&#8217;d also argue that Leahy hasn&#8217;t done his homework. Given his TESREAL analysis, surely he would have spent some time reading my articles (solo and with Gebru). Leahy strikes me as a curious person. He seems open to new ideas and alternative perspectives. It&#8217;s hard to believe he wouldn&#8217;t have taken the time to read at least some of my papers, or check out my newsletter.</p><p>I think he&#8217;d do this even if people around him misunderstood my (and Gebru&#8217;s) analysis and insisted that my work isn&#8217;t worth looking into. It would be very odd if he uncritically took someone else&#8217;s word for it without doing some research and making up his own mind.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Thoughts on Leahy</strong>:</p><p>So far as I can tell, Leahy&#8217;s views have shifted over the past few years. I previously saw him as being largely aligned with the TESCREAL movement, but now he appears mostly critical of it (perhaps because he read my articles?). Hence, I currently have a generally positive view of Leahy &#8212; though the fact that Leahy didn&#8217;t respond to any of the three emails he received about this situation doesn&#8217;t reflect well on his intellectual or moral integrity &#8212; and am glad that he&#8217;s calling out the cluster of techno-utopian ideologies behind the race to build God-like machines.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-48" href="#footnote-48" target="_self">48</a></p><p>I also strongly agree with his claim that the future must be <em>democratically determined</em> &#8212; this is, incidentally, <strong>exactly what I&#8217;ve been arguing for years</strong>, often quoting my futurist friend <a href="https://www.salon.com/2023/07/29/visions-how-the-quest-for-utopia-could-lead-to/">Monika Bielskyte</a> who says: &#8220;You cannot design <em>for</em>. You must always design <em>with</em>.&#8221;</p><p>The second half of my &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">Pro-Human Manifesto</a>&#8221; (only the first of which has been published) is dedicated to arguing that it is <em>utter tyranny</em> for any one group &#8212; e.g., the TESCREALists &#8212; to determine what the future looks like for <em>all of humanity</em>. The future must be decided through a procedure that enables representatives of every group, nation, culture, religion, political party, socioeconomic demographic, tradition, and so on, to have a seat at the decision-making table.</p><p>I think Leahy wholly agrees with this, and consequently our current worldviews appear to be largely consonant. This makes me even more puzzled that he chose not to cite me (and Gebru) &#8212; to work with us. It looks like we&#8217;re on the same team: &#8220;Team Human,&#8221; a term I borrow from Rushkoff.</p></div><h4>3. No One Wants to Think This</h4><p>The final option is (3), which is obviously unethical. If (3) is the case, it would be ironic given Leahy&#8217;s (justified) screams that people in the AI race are acting unethically. I don&#8217;t want to believe that (3) is true, but the sad fact is that this sort of thing happens all the time. Indeed, I just published a long article about how <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best">Nick Bostrom has habitually taken many of his &#8220;best&#8221; ideas from other people</a> without proper attribution. A friend of mine at an Ivy League university had a novel idea of his stolen by a peer. When I was a Special Student at Harvard, the PhD students wouldn&#8217;t share details about their dissertations with other students for fear of being plagiarized. There is no dearth of examples.</p><p>I should also note that Leahy&#8217;s organization, ControlAI, doesn&#8217;t disclose the donors behind its funding. They&#8217;re supported by &#8220;dark money,&#8221; as it were, and if I had to guess, I&#8217;d say that this money probably comes from the TESCREAL community &#8212; of which Leahy is now critical.</p><p>His previous organization, Conjecture, which he founded, was funded by TESCREALists like Sam Bankman-Fried, and even has <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/conjecture">its own dedicated page</a> on the EA Forum, which indicates that it was deeply embedded in the TESCREAL ecosystem. So, Leahy has roots in this movement. Perhaps ControlAI is different from Conjecture in <em>not</em> accepting any TESCREAL money, but if it does, this would provide a strong incentive to avoid mentioning me or Gebru in any critique of Silicon Valley ideologies. That&#8217;s because most people in the TESCREAL community <em>hate</em> me and Gebru. (See the &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/205780463/why-is-tescreal-controversial">Why Is TESCREAL Controversial</a>&#8221; section of <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">this article</a> for discussion.)</p><p>Hence, if ControlAI is funded by TESCREALists, their funding could be jeopardized by Leahy legitimizing and promoting our work.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>While reading this article, a friend of mine, Dr Alexander Thomas, sent me this message:</strong></p><p>I think an interesting question here is why Leahy put forward an analysis so similar to your own and not acknowledge where it comes from. I think one possibility is that, as you&#8217;ve pointed out, increasingly the term TESCREAL is known to people in the AI industry, and they have figured out that it&#8217;s a critique. For that reason, it&#8217;s possible that even mentioning TESCREAL could get the heckles up of those that Leahy wishes to convince.</p><p>Perhaps he wants to make exactly the same thesis as the TESCREAL one &#8212; that this constellation of philosophies underpins so much of Silicon Valley culture and the trajectory of AI developments &#8212; but win people over to the understanding in a way they find emotionally palatable. This is a generous, but plausible take.</p><p>You also mention that it&#8217;s not clear where Leahy&#8217;s funding is coming from &#8212; could it be the case that using the term TESCREAL would jeopardise that funding? Increasingly the labs seem keen to employ &#8216;philosophers&#8217;, but only ones that are not a threat to the aims and worldview they promote. Carmody Grey wrote an interesting piece on this in FT recently. Given the insularity of funding and its EA/Longtermism bias, maybe the term TESCREAL is too much of a risk. If that&#8217;s true it&#8217;s weird though that he&#8217;s putting out these ideas at all.</p><p>Either way, to be honest, I&#8217;m glad that it&#8217;s another voice articulating this important fact. I think the more people understand these ideas, where they came from and the incredible power of those that believe in them, the more resistance there will be to current AI developments. It&#8217;s a toxic history with a deeply problematic logic that would turn off the vast majority of people.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-49" href="#footnote-49" target="_self">49</a></p></div><h4>I See No Other Options</h4><p>I cannot think of a fourth possibility. It seems that if (1) and (2) are false, then (3) must be true, and if (2) and (3) are false, (1) must be true &#8212; and so on. Of these options, (2) is obviously the best, though still not great.</p><p>If Leahy would like to clear this up, I would welcome a friendly chat &#8212; over Zoom, on my podcast, or via another platform. I have always valued collaboration, and I believe there is a lot<em> </em>more scholarship to be done on the topic of TESCREALism.</p><p>Why not work together in elaborating, precisifying, and improving the analysis that Gebru and I painstakingly put together and which I have extended considerably since 2023, in both peer-reviewed papers and popular media articles? Why not cross-pollinate ideas? Why not build a more robust Team Human movement?</p><h3>What&#8217;s the Good News?</h3><h4>People Are Catching On</h4><p>The good news is that, first of all, this debacle indicates that people are waking up to the TESCREAL ideologies driving the ASI race. I&#8217;ve noted this encouraging trend on numerous occasions over the past several years:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1802417183043334225&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Very important article in The Guardian by <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@jason_a_w</span> and <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@awinston</span>. I'm so glad that people are waking up to just how powerful + toxic the TESCREAL movement is. Yes, this is just the most recent iteration of the \&quot;eternal return of eugenics.\&quot; For more on\n\n<a class=\&quot;tweet-url\&quot; href=\&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jun/16/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-eugenics-scientific-racism\&quot;>theguardian.com/technology/art&#8230;</a>&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-06-16T19:05:18.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:6,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:63,&quot;like_count&quot;:196,&quot;impression_count&quot;:18884,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2036435794617893098&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;People continue to discover the TESCREAL movement in realtime.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-24T13:31:43.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Laughter and song, the bonds of friendship, the joy of play, the wonder of art, the beauty of nature, the gift of attention &#8211; tech oligarchs like Peter Thiel, Zuckerberg and Musk don't care for ANY of it. \n\nThey see humanity as redundant, as useless, as slop, and would rather&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;rcbregman&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Rutger Bregman&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1365285823416045571/i-JmI6Gd_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:18,&quot;like_count&quot;:48,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2490,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2044765067493695651&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;People continue to discover the TESCREAL worldview. My book on the topic comes out in September or October. :-0&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-16T13:09:16.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Inside the alarming cyborg future 'transhumanists' Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Sam Altman are already preparing for https://t.co/3gwsKry1hZ&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;nypost&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;New York Post&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2073490215327715328/4wOfTM9__normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:7,&quot;like_count&quot;:53,&quot;impression_count&quot;:3935,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2042297728231768143&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;People are discovering the ditital eschatology of the TESCREAL ideologies!&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-09T17:44:57.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I won&#8217;t promote this asshole by QT but he&#8217;s not wrong about this one issue&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;Playerinthgame&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Silicon Valley Fodder&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1967971234844397568/mzW_eGra_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:4,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:7,&quot;like_count&quot;:31,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1449,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2060818321071571219&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;People are discovering the TESCREAL worldview in realtime! Amazing to see people recognizing the underlying transhumanist/pro-extinctionist motives here.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-30T20:19:10.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;&#128680; BILL GURLEY: &#8220;I would encourage people to read as much as they can about Anthropic &#8230; I don't think they think they're writing software. I think they're midwifing a deity.&#8221;\n\nJASON: &#8220;I know some of these folks &#8230; They believe they're so powerful, that they can create God.&#8221;&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;TheChiefNerd&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Chief Nerd&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1658949550751596546/zZkL3U76_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:4,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:18,&quot;like_count&quot;:99,&quot;impression_count&quot;:8395,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2030603774268453219&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;People are discovering the TESCREAL bundle and its pro-extinctionist core. I have now published multiple academic papers on this, and countless popular media articles. Glad to see others starting to catch up!&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-08T11:17:21.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;We're excited to launch the Pro-Human AI Declaration, laying out a more inspiring AI path than Silicon Valley's dystopian race-to-replace. It has remarkably broad support, from Bannon to Bengio, from unions to faith groups, from parents to  NatSec leaders. Please join our growing&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;tegmark&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Max Tegmark&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/471772020963700736/bYpXSErt_normal.jpeg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:13,&quot;like_count&quot;:55,&quot;impression_count&quot;:3151,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p><em>Finally!</em></p><h4>Leahy (Apparently) Endorses the TESCREAL Thesis</h4><p>The other bit of good news is that it turns out <em>Leahy is a champion of the TESCREAL thesis</em>. That&#8217;s cool. I&#8217;m always happy when someone joins the team (unless they&#8217;re <a href="https://www.humansfirst.com">fascists</a> or <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dear-bernie-sanders-neil-degrasse?utm_source=publication-search">pro-extinctionists</a>, and Leahy is neither).</p><p>What do I want to see happen? How can this situation be rectified? <strong>At the very least, Leahy needs to mention that his TESREAL analysis is extremely similar to my analysis</strong> (solo and with Gebru). Gebru and I have been talking about the TESCREAL thesis before I can find a single instance of Leahy mentioning &#8220;Extropianism&#8221; online. Beyond this, I would welcome some sort of collaboration (doesn&#8217;t need to be formal or anything like that!). As noted above, there is <em>a lot</em> of work left to be done, and I suspect that aspects of the TESCREAL framework may need adjusting.</p><p>For example, Yasmeena Khan at the University of Oxford wrote a <em>fantastic</em> master&#8217;s thesis on the e/acc movement, titled &#8220;<a href="https://yrkhan.com/research.html">Coding Utopia: Effective Accelerationism &amp; Evolving Techno-Optimism in Silicon Valley</a>.&#8221; It offers, in part, a history of this neoteric ideology, and her account suggests that the way I understand e/acc in relation to the TESCREAL movement is not fully accurate. After reading her thesis (which is brilliant work), I came to more or less fully agree with her.</p><p>I mention this as an example of dialogue between my and Gebru&#8217;s TESCREAL thesis &#8212; which Khan generously cites &#8212; and other scholarship that builds upon and critiques it. I have no doubt that there are details that Leahy and I would disagree about, but working out such disagreements could very well push the tiny nascent field of TESCREAL Studies (or whatever one wants to call it) forward.</p><p>Unfortunately, Leahy blocked me on Twitter sometime after I sent him a DM in 2023 asking if he&#8217;d like to meet up while I was visiting London.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-50" href="#footnote-50" target="_self">50</a> I have no idea why he blocked me. It might have been in response to me suggesting last year that he&#8217;s copying my work (tweet included above). If that&#8217;s the case, it&#8217;s rather ignominious.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Fact-Checking Leahy&#8217;s Interview</h3><p>I think Leahy&#8217;s analysis is missing a lot of important details. It&#8217;s like a granular, sepia version of the analysis that I present in my solo articles and with Gebru. He also said a number of things that are factually false, and &#8212; in my opinion &#8212; misunderstands the prognostications made by people like Yudkowsky in the early TESCREAL movement. Here are three examples:</p><ol><li><p>As noted earlier, Wright says: &#8220;I think Shane Legg came up with the term AGI, didn&#8217;t he?&#8221; Leahy responds: &#8220;I think he did. Yes, if I remember correctly.&#8221; Students of this history will know that Mark Gubrud coined the term in 1997 (to the best of <em>anyone&#8217;s</em> knowledge). Ben Goertzel, who popularized the term, <a href="https://goertzel.org/AGI_survey_early_draft.pdf">says in a paper</a> that he got the term from Legg, though <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2xYyIk5x0">elsewhere he claims</a> that it might have come from Peter Voss. Gubrud suggests that Goertzel and Legg very likely got it from him. Either way, Goertzel popularized it while Gubrud coined it, though Legg might have coined it independently.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1952849559732011051&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Here's a scoop: although the term &#8220;AGI&#8221; was coined by the physicist Mark Gubrud in 1997, it&#8217;s commonly misattributed to Shane Legg, the cofounder of DeepMind. I confirmed with Gubrud (personal communication) that he was not at Faggella&#8217;s event, which means only one thing:&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-08-05T21:49:51.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1,&quot;like_count&quot;:12,&quot;impression_count&quot;:589,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div></li><li><p>Leahy describes <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._J._Good">I. J. Good</a> as a &#8220;sci-fi author&#8221; who was &#8220;one of the first people to talk about the intelligence explosion.&#8221; The second assertion is true, but the first isn&#8217;t: Good wasn&#8217;t a sci-fi author. To my knowledge, he never wrote <em>any</em> fiction. He was instead a mathematician and cryptologist.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-51" href="#footnote-51" target="_self">51</a></p></li><li><p>Leahy claims that, &#8220;famously, Lord Kelvin, a very famous scientist, said that the idea of getting net energy from fission is moonshine. It&#8217;s impossible.&#8221; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Kelvin">Lord Kelvin</a> died 26 years before <a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/11/26/moonshine/">the &#8220;moonshine&#8221; comment</a> led Leo Szilard to discover, in 1933, the idea of a <em>nuclear chain reaction</em> involving <em>free neutrons</em>. <em>Famously</em>, the &#8220;moonshine&#8221; statement comes from Ernest Rutherford. Leahy also says that, upon reading Rutherford&#8217;s statement, Szilard &#8220;immediately came up with a design for how to build a nuclear bomb and how it would work.&#8221; This is false. All Szilard did in 1933 was realize that if nuclei could be split by one neutron such that they release two neutrons, a self-sustaining chain reaction could result, thus liberating the enormous stores of energy bottled up in those nuclei. It wasn&#8217;t until 1938 that the nuclear fusion of uranium atoms was discovered, leading Szilard to understand right away that uranium must release neutrons in the process, thus making a nuclear chain reaction practicable. Szilard then tested this and found that uranium does <em>in fact</em> release neutrons. The <em>design</em> of the atomic bomb, based on these discoveries and insights, required the entire Manhattan Project. I wrote about Lord Kelvin (and thermodynamics), Szilard, and the making of the first atomic bomb in great detail in chapter 4 of my <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Human-Extinction-A-History-of-the-Science-and-Ethics-of-Annihilation/Torres/p/book/9781032159089">2024 book </a><em><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Human-Extinction-A-History-of-the-Science-and-Ethics-of-Annihilation/Torres/p/book/9781032159089">Human Extinction</a></em>. Fun stuff!</p></li></ol><p>Finally, here&#8217;s a criticism. Leahy says:</p><blockquote><p>This is what I think is so fascinating here, is that there&#8217;s a lot things [<em>sic</em>] are wrong, but fundamentally they [the people in these TES(C)REAL cults] did have secret knowledge which did turn out to be true. If you were in the cult sphere in like the early 2000s, you did know things about the future that other people didn&#8217;t know. So this was very intoxicating to people.</p></blockquote><p>I think Leahy dramatically underestimates the causal impact these people had in <em>bringing about the ASI race</em>. Indeed, this is a major deficiency of his analysis, and a central feature of my analysis with Gebru. <strong>It was </strong><em><strong>because of</strong></em><strong> the influence of people like Yudkowsky, Bostrom, Thiel, Kurzweil, and other early TESCREALists that we ended up in our current existential snafu</strong>.</p><p>To suggest that such people were <em>prescient</em> is similar to congratulating me for having accurately prophesied the future when I woke up and said, &#8220;I prophesy that I will soon drink a cup of coffee!,&#8221; after which I went to my coffeemaker and made a cup of coffee &#8212; and then drank it.</p><p>Participants in the transhumanist, Extropian, and singularitarian communities (before the other ideologies were fully formed) didn&#8217;t have some &#8220;secret knowledge.&#8221; They imagined a future and then made it happen. Indeed, one could plausibly argue that no single individual has done more to <em>inspire</em> people to pursue ASI than Yudkowsky himself, as I&#8217;ve said on many occasions. I think Leahy&#8217;s analysis problematically misses this very important fact.</p><h3>Conclusion: Why Write This?</h3><p>Why do I care about Leahy not citing me (and Gebru)? Isn&#8217;t this kind of petty? Why not just ignore it?</p><p>If you&#8217;ve spent any time in academia, you&#8217;ve likely come across a <em>type</em> of academic &#8212; usually an older white man &#8212; who endlessly whines about others not citing them enough. They insist that this or that idea was actually <em>theirs</em> &#8212; that they were the first to discuss it, and hence a great injustice is committed when anyone references but fails to mention them. Such people bemoan the fact that, in their eyes, they aren&#8217;t sufficiently lionized for their supposed brilliance, insight, and originality. This often arises from an overinflated ego and/or deep-seated anxiety about their legacy.</p><p>I strongly dislike this type of person. I do not like egos, arrogance, self-importance, or narcissism. And I don&#8217;t fool myself into thinking that anyone will remember me once I&#8217;m gone.</p><p>The reason I was bothered enough to write an article about Leahy&#8217;s interview is: (a) Leahy&#8217;s analysis isn&#8217;t <em>somewhat similar</em> but <em>virtually identical</em> to mine (and Gebru&#8217;s), and (b) Leahy is a young guy with lots of money, resources, and influence; he has a larger audience than me, and boasts of direct access to political power in DC; and so on. Meanwhile, I&#8217;m an independent researcher and freelance journalist who&#8217;s currently struggling to bring in more than $12,000 a year, despite my workaholism and (what some would call) prolific output.</p><p>Neither (a) nor (b) are independently <em>sufficient</em> for me to have complained. But (a) and (b) together is upsetting. <strong>Those with power and influence have a duty to cite lesser-known figures whose work they draw from (especially when they&#8217;re drawing heavily)</strong>. Even if one claims not to be &#8220;copying&#8221; them, one still has a duty to at least acknowledge similarities when those similarities are <em>significant and extensive</em>. Citing others is not hard. It takes a single breath to say, &#8220;This analysis isn&#8217;t original to me. Torres, in solo articles and with Gebru, has outlined this in detail.&#8221;</p><p>I will close with a quote from yet another friend who I didn&#8217;t quote above. Referring to this situation, they wrote to me:</p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately it&#8217;s almost never that people warning early get the gratitude they deserve but instead get erased, so people who ignored their warnings can rip off their work and pretend they never ignored sometimes made fun of it.</p></blockquote><p>So it goes.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Note that I reached out to ControlAI twice via email, offering to share this article with Leahy prior to publication for him to dispute any of my claims. I wanted this to be fair, as intimations that someone is engaging in intellectual plagiarism are serious. No one at ControlAI responded. I also wrote Wright to see if he&#8217;d be willing to pass along this invitation to Leahy, and Wright agreed. But again, no response from Leahy. As mentioned above, it doesn&#8217;t reflect well on Leahy&#8217;s integrity that he chose not to respond. But again, so it goes!</p></div><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Acknowledgments</strong>: Thanks to Dr. Alexander Thomas (whose <a href="https://bristoluniversitypressdigital.com/monobook-oa/book/9781529239669/9781529239669.xml">open-access book on transhumanism</a> I would highly recommend) and numerous other academics, some of whom were quoted, for reading over this article. Any remaining errors are my own.</p></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have repeatedly made this claim in articles and interviews. For example, I <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">wrote</a> in June 2023:</p><blockquote><p>To be clear, Microsoft and Google are of course driven by the profit motive. They expect the AI systems being developed by OpenAI and DeepMind to significantly boost shareholder value. <strong>But the profit motive is only part of the picture. The other part, which is no less integral, is the TESCREAL bundle</strong>. This is why it&#8217;s so important to understand what this bundle is, who embraces it and how it&#8217;s driving the push to create AGI.</p></blockquote><p>In a May 2024 interview with <em>Tech Policy Press</em>, I <a href="https://www.techpolicy.press/podcast-resisting-ai-and-the-consolidation-of-power/">said</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I think a key aspect of the argument that we&#8217;re articulating and the thesis that we&#8217;re trying to defend is that, with respect to a lot of companies in the world, <strong>if you want to provide a complete explanation for why they do what they do, you don&#8217;t need to look much further than the profit motive</strong>. There are these companies that are embedded in this capitalist system. Why were the fossil fuel companies ruining the world? To maximize profits, and so on. <strong>I think the case of AI companies constitutes an anomaly. So the profit motive is a part of the picture, but it&#8217;s only half of the picture, or maybe it&#8217;s less than half of the picture</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>In a July 2024 interview, I <a href="https://aiinside.show/episode/the-tescreal-faq-with-emile-p-torres">said</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Half of the picture is at least <em>at this point</em> profit. <em>But</em> these AGI companies are unique in the sort of capitalist landscape that &#8230; that we&#8217;re all in. Fossil fuel companies, they&#8217;re motivated. How do you explain their behavior? Profit motive. And then you have pretty much a complete explanation. <strong>These AI companies, DeepMind, OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI, and so on &#8212; how do you explain </strong><em><strong>their</strong></em><strong> behavior? Well profit motive is a part of the</strong> &#8230; capitalism has become <em>intertwined</em> with, I mean there&#8217;s a sense in which the TESCREAL vision of the future is just techno-capitalism on steroids. It&#8217;s about going out [and] maximizing value, plundering the cosmos, colonizing, expanding, extracting and so on and so on. And so yeah, <strong>I think TESCREALism is the </strong><em><strong>other</strong></em><strong> key part of the picture and I think people are starting to recognize that</strong>.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>In <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">this recent article</a> I write:</p><blockquote><p><span>A journalist asked me the other day what I think is most important for people to understand about the current race to build AGI (</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence">artificial general intelligence</a><span>). My answer was: </span><strong><span>First, that the AGI race directly emerged out of the </span><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">TESCREAL movement</a><span>. Building AGI was initially about </span></strong><em><strong>utopia </strong></em><strong><span>rather than profit, though profit has </span></strong><em><strong>become</strong></em><strong><span> a significant driver alongside techno-utopian dreams of AGI ushering in </span><a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636">a paradisiacal fantasyworld among the literal heavens</a></strong><span>. Hence, one simply cannot make sense of the AGI race without some understanding of the TESCREAL ideologies.</span></p></blockquote><p>There are dozens of other examples, at least. Leahy&#8217;s claim that the ASI race &#8220;didn&#8217;t come out of a vacuum. This is not the ruthless market [that capitalism] decided this is the optimal thing to go for. These are ideas that actually grew out of a very specific ideological lineage that I would say really started with what is called the Extropians&#8221; <strong>is exactly what I&#8217;ve been arguing for years</strong>.</p><p>For an insightful exploration of the links between transhumanism and capitalism, see Alexander Thomas&#8217; book <a href="https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/the-politics-and-ethics-of-transhumanism">here</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have noted in many interviews and articles that there is a broad diversity of kinds of transhumanism: socialist transhumanism, &#8220;Christian transhumanism, Mormon transhumanism,&#8221; etc., as I note <a href="https://theoryofchange.flux.community/p/inside-tescreal-the-new-techno-religion?hide_intro_popup=true&amp;has_completed_unsubscribed_unlock=true">here</a>. In <a href="https://magazine.mindplex.ai/post/__tescrealism-has-the-silicon-valley-ruling-class-gone-to-crazy-town-emile-torres-in-conversation-with-r-u-sirius">this interview</a> from 2023 I say:</p><blockquote><p><strong>The notion of TESCREALism is supposed to capture the techno-utopian vision that came out of some of these movements</strong>, and to gesture at the worst aspects of that. I think <strong>they&#8217;re the ones that have become most influential now</strong>. So, like the democratic socialist James Hughes &#8212; he was somewhat influential. But, compared to someone like Bostrom, his influence is minor. And I absolutely recognize that there are transhumanists who [are] anti-libertarian. Some of them are Mormons.</p></blockquote><p>The kind of transhumanism relevant to the TESCREAL bundle is <em>libertarian</em> transhumanism &#8212; which is just to say <em>Extropianism</em>, because Extropianism was a hardcore libertarian movement. (I note here with Gebru that Ayn Rand was on its official reading list.) As I said in <a href="https://tribunemag.co.uk/2025/07/the-curious-sci-fi-beliefs-of-the-ai-tech-elite">an interview from last year</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Extropianism was the first organized modern transhumanist movement. <strong>It was very libertarian</strong>, Ayn Rand&#8217;s <em>Atlas Shrugged</em> was on its official reading list. It was also very stubbornly pro-technology, <strong>so they were very accelerationist and they wanted to just build advanced technologies as quickly as possible</strong>. Although the movement itself has somewhat faded in prominence, the legacy of that movement &#8212; having established transhumanism within California tech culture &#8212; remains with us today.</p></blockquote><p>This echoes comments that I&#8217;ve publicly made since at least 2022: </p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1577637773640704000&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@Kobotic</span> @DispatchesUSA @TheStephenWood Historically, the first really organized transhumanist movement was extropianism (extropy mailing list included Bostrom, Anders Sandberg, Robin Hanson, Max More, etc). And it was indeed very libertarian! From my book, might be of interest: &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2022-10-05T12:32:10.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/FeTk74eWAAAe9EO.png&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/7U8thrXinQ&quot;,&quot;alt_text&quot;:&quot;As a 1994 article in Wired magazine put the idea,\n\npeople have dreamed such dreams before, of course: they&#8217;ve wanted to fly like eagles, to run like the wind, to live forever. They&#8217;ve dreamed of becoming like the gods, of having supernatural powers. The difference is that now, suddenly, all of it is entirely possible. For the first time in history, science and technology have caught up to the wildest of human aspirations and hopes. \n\nThis is what engendered the modern transhumanist movement, which coalesced via the Internet in the late 1980s and 1990s. 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"></figcaption></figure></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Not just &#8220;transhumanism,&#8221; though: <em>libertarian</em> transhumanism!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is one of the few places where my (and Gebru&#8217;s) analysis differs: I/we don&#8217;t emphasize the &#8220;new age communist &#8230; crazy hippie ideology.&#8221; However, Ne&#351;e Devenot does cover this in her paper &#8220;<a href="https://www.akjournals.com/view/journals/2054/7/S1/article-p22.xml">TESCREAL Hallucinations: Psychedelic and AI Hype as Inequality Engines</a>,&#8221; which is one reason I haven&#8217;t discussed it &#8212; other scholars building on my work with Gebru have. With respect to this point, my friend Dr. Alexander Thomas had this to say:</p><blockquote><p>As for Leahy&#8217;s claim that the hippie culture that informed transhumanism was communist, that is completely wrong, or at least so unspecific and unnuanced as to constitute a lazy and pejorative dismissal of a useful strand of the cultural architecture involved. Fred Turner&#8217;s <em>From Counterculture to Cyberculture: Stewart Brand, the Whole Earth Network, and the Rise of Digital Utopianism </em>is a good reference for anyone interested in a more thorough understanding than Leahy displays.</p></blockquote><p>That said, I do explicitly say &#8212; as alluded to in a previous footnote &#8212; that capitalism <em>plus</em> TESCREALism provides a more or less complete &#8220;<a href="https://magazine.mindplex.ai/post/__tescrealism-has-the-silicon-valley-ruling-class-gone-to-crazy-town-emile-torres-in-conversation-with-r-u-sirius">explanatory picture</a>&#8221; of what&#8217;s going on. The race to build ASI, however, <strong>did not </strong><em><strong>start</strong></em><strong> because of the profit motive &#8212; this is a key claim of the TESCREAL thesis</strong>. It was instead ideologically motivated: to fulfill the techno-utopian project of the TESCREAL worldview by building a Machine God.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Again, the ASI race <em>started off</em> (circa 2010) having almost nothing to do with capitalist motives. The goal was utopia through ASI. <strong>Over time, especially after ChatGPT was released in late 2022, profit </strong><em><strong>has become</strong></em><strong> an increasingly dominant part of the explanatory picture</strong>. I don&#8217;t doubt that psychedelic culture is also very much a part of this.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have also repeatedly described the TESCREAL worldview as a &#8220;religion&#8221; and &#8220;cult&#8221; (<a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">here</a>, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-transhumanism-a-religion">here</a>, etc.). As I say in <a href="https://truthout.org/audio/bizarre-and-dangerous-utopian-ideology-has-quietly-taken-hold-of-tech-world/">this interview</a> from 2023:</p><blockquote><p>In fact, <strong>the parallels between transhumanism and traditional religion are really quite striking</strong>. That&#8217;s really not a coincidence. If you look at the individuals who initially developed the transhumanist ideology, <strong>they were explicit that this is supposed to be a replacement for traditional religion</strong>. It&#8217;s a secular replacement.</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png" width="490" height="305.84437086092714" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P415!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9406b8c0-4166-4860-8eb6-8afc2c80cf3b_1208x754.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://x.com/xriskology/status/1656006403323043874">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pLpT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c424375-3c7a-4872-aa8c-d12fa893b85e_1410x436.png 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://xriskology.medium.com/the-guardian-published-an-article-about-my-work-heres-what-missed-the-mark-e54b849539ab">here</a> (published in 2023).</figcaption></figure></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1705602206592843837&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Transhumanism--the \&quot;T\&quot; in \&quot;TESCREAL,\&quot; the backbone of the ideological bundle--is \&quot;definitely not a cult,\&quot; writes a bunch of transhumanists. But it does check most of the same boxes as religion, with its promise \&quot;immortality, constant bliss, and godlike intelligence.\&quot; :-0 &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-09-23T15:17:09.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/F6uDnSxXQAAYgs-.png&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/zI0tK2d8r7&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:16,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:25,&quot;like_count&quot;:103,&quot;impression_count&quot;:10657,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Many other examples could be adduced.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Correct. This is exactly what I argue in solo pieces and with Gebru.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><strong>Extropianism is the first instance of second-wave transhumanism</strong>, which replaced the methods of earlier eugenics movements (basically, selective breeding) in favor of the new methods of so-called &#8220;liberal eugenics&#8221; (namely, advanced technologies capable of radically &#8220;enhancing&#8221; individuals in one lifetime or over a single generation). It specifically emerged in the <em>late</em> 1980s, as <em>Extropy Magazine</em> was first published by Max More and Tom Bell (later called T. O. Morrow) in 1988; they subsequently cofounded the Extropy Institute in 1992. I don&#8217;t know if More actually coined the word &#8220;Extropianism,&#8221; but that seems likely. The word &#8220;extropy&#8221; goes back <a href="https://www.oed.com/dictionary/extropy_n?tl=true">at least to 1952</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I think this is misleading. Yes, Extropians <em>wanted</em> pedal-to-the-metal technological &#8220;progress.&#8221; But More and others recognized that there are potential risks associated with developing advanced technologies. As he writes in his &#8220;<a href="https://archive.is/1AT3Q#selection-353.0-362.0">Proactionary Principle</a>&#8221; essay, we should</p><blockquote><p>consider restrictive measures only if the potential impact of an activity has both significant probability and severity. In such cases, if the activity also generates benefits, discount the impacts according to the feasibility of adapting to the adverse effects. If measures to limit technological advance do appear justified, ensure that the extent of those measures is proportionate to the extent of the probable effects.</p></blockquote><p>In other words, sometimes limiting technological &#8220;progress&#8221; can be justified. Extropianism has a certain affinity to &#8220;effective accelerationism,&#8221; as More himself as recently <a href="https://maxmore.substack.com/p/should-you-take-experimental-life?utm_source=publication-search">noted</a> in <em>Extropic Thoughts</em>: &#8220;I look at the origins of effective accelerationism (e/acc) and its unacknowledged roots in extropian transhumanism as well as in several Singularitarian writers.&#8221; (In fact, the leading e/acc even named his company &#8220;Extropic.&#8221;) I have said this very thing going back years, as shown below.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Yes. In fact, Extropianism was also bound up with the cryonics movement, as Max More joined Alcor, a cryonics company, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/company-will-freeze-your-dead-body-200-000-n562551">in 1986</a> &#8212; two years before officially founding Extropianism. Topics discussed on the Extropians mailing list in the 1990s include superintelligence, life extension, cryopreservation, and mind-uploading.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is singularitarianism. The singularitarian movement largely emerged <em>out of</em> the Extropian movement. The term &#8220;singularitarian&#8221; was coined by an Extropian (as Gebru and I <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">note</a>); Yudkowsky was one of the leading singularitarians in the early 2000s and was heavily involved in Extropianism (as we <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">also note</a>); and Ray Kurzweil, another leading singularitarian, <a href="https://archive.is/LdpGR#selection-589.0-589.21">gave talks</a> at Extropian conferences.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In June 2024, I published an <a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/06/24/ai-doomers-have-warned-of-the-tech-pocalypse-while-doing-their-best-to-accelerate-it/">article in </a><em><a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/06/24/ai-doomers-have-warned-of-the-tech-pocalypse-while-doing-their-best-to-accelerate-it/">Salon</a></em> in which I said (among other relevant things):</p><blockquote><p>Or <strong>consider the <a href="https://hpluspedia.org/wiki/SL4">SL4 mailing list</a> that Yudkowsky created in 2001</strong>, which <a href="http://sl4.org/#:~:text=The%20SL4%20mailing%20list%20is,strategies%20to%20accelerate%20the%20Singularity">described itself</a> as dedicated to &#8220;advanced topics in transhumanism and the Singularity, including &#8230; strategies to accelerate the Singularity.&#8221; The Singularity is a <a href="https://intelligence.org/2007/09/30/three-major-singularity-schools/">hypothetical future event</a> in which advanced AI begins to redesign itself, leading to a &#8220;superintelligent&#8221; AGI system over the course of weeks, days, or perhaps even minutes. Once again, <strong>Legg also <a href="http://sl4.org/archive/author.html">contributed to</a> the list, which indicates that the connections between Yudkowsky, the world&#8217;s leading doomer, and Legg, cofounder of one of the biggest AI companies involved in the AGI race, goes back more than two decades</strong>.</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See above.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I address this <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/209132941/some-mistakes-and-weaknesses">later in the article</a>. It is inaccurate.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is a key part of the story that Gebru and I tell, and which I have brought up on <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/under-a-mask-of-ai-doomerism-the-familiar-face-of-eugenics/">numerous</a> <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">occasions</a> (two hyperlinks there) going back years.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is precisely what I have <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">argued since 2023</a>. For example, I write that &#8220;<span>when Yudkowsky started MIRI, it was originally called the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, and its explicit mission was &#8216;</span><a href="https://futureoflife.org/ai/ai-the-danger-of-good-intentions/">to accelerate</a><span> toward artificial intelligence&#8217; &#8212; exactly what e/acc now wants to do.&#8221; Gebru and I reiterate this in </span><a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599"><span>our paper</span></a><span>.</span></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Similar to the above, in <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">a 2023 article for </a><em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">Truthdig</a></em> about e/acc, I note that Yudkowsky and his Singularity Institute were the original accelerationists:</p><blockquote><p>Consider a question that someone recently <a href="https://twitter.com/rumtin/status/1727262604869955586">posted</a> on Twitter/X: &#8220;Is there an &#8216;e/acc for everything but nukes, bioweapons, AI-enabled warfare and authoritarian surveillance&#8217;?&#8221; One person who responded was Rob Bensinger, an AI doomer who works for the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, founded in 2000 by Yudkowsky, the most famous doomer in the world right now. &#8220;Last I checked,&#8221; Bensinger <a href="https://archive.is/YVPXn">responded</a>, &#8220;<strong>the term for that kind of e/acc is &#8216;doomer.&#8217;</strong>&#8221; In other words, AI doomers <em>are accelerationists about everything except for AGI and related technologies</em>, and indeed doomers like Yudkowsky <em>started out</em> as AI accelerationists, but then modified their libertarian views to make an exception for AGI. <strong>When Yudkowsky started MIRI, it was originally called the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, and its explicit mission was &#8220;<a href="https://futureoflife.org/ai/ai-the-danger-of-good-intentions/">to accelerate</a> toward artificial intelligence&#8221; &#8212; exactly what e/acc now wants to do</strong>.</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In the <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">same 2023 article as above</a>, I also note that e/acc</p><blockquote><p><strong><span>has some connection to the accelerationism of Nick Land</span></strong><span>, a far-right racist philosopher who has </span><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/11/accelerationism-how-a-fringe-philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in">written</a><span> about </span><strong><span>the &#8220;supposedly inevitable &#8216;disintegration of the human species&#8217; when artificial intelligence improves sufficiently.&#8221;</span></strong><span> However, e/acc is the brainchild of Verdon &#8212; aka &#8220;Beff Jezos&#8221; &#8212; who describes it as being rooted in thermodynamics. In particular, Verdon bases his grand, eschatological vision on a highly speculative </span><a href="https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-thermodynamics-theory-of-the-origin-of-life-20140122/">theory proposed by</a><span> the MIT physicist Jeremy England, though reading Verdon&#8217;s writing gives the impression that this theory is established science &#8212; which is not the case.</span></p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Gebru and I highlight this in our 2024 paper.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The &#8220;R&#8221; in &#8220;TESCREAL.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have repeatedly made this point, sometimes using nearly identical language. The TESCREAL movement is <em>extremely elitist</em>. They believe that they have &#8220;special access&#8221; to &#8220;fundamental truths&#8221; about what the future should look like, and that the rest of us aren&#8217;t smart enough for our input to matter. For example, in early 2022, I <a href="https://x.com/xriskology/status/1521148003838537728">wrote</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fxqk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d91b5cd-c7c2-4034-bdd8-dcf402ed1d70_1196x802.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fxqk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d91b5cd-c7c2-4034-bdd8-dcf402ed1d70_1196x802.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fxqk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d91b5cd-c7c2-4034-bdd8-dcf402ed1d70_1196x802.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://x.com/xriskology/status/1521148003838537728">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In 2021, I said:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1464927985606275075&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@NathanpmYoung</span> snobbery / elitism / weird authoritarian castigation / etc. etc. This is a common complaint, even among people _at institutes like FHI and CSER_. I've been nothing but cooperative and nice to people in the community for years, without any reciprocity.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2021-11-28T12:03:43.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:0,&quot;like_count&quot;:2,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p><strong>This has, indeed, been a central feature of my criticisms of the TESCREAL movement</strong>. In early 2025, I <a href="https://www.thenerdreich.com/silicon-valleys-scary-new-religion-tescreal/">told Gil Duran</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I would say that <strong>there is an incredible amount of hubris among these people</strong>. And as someone who was in this community back in the day, I can attest that <strong>many have an idea that they have some kind of special access to fundamental truths about what the future ought to look like. And now their task is to impose this vision on the rest of humanity. So they sort of speak for all of humanity</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>In <a href="https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/tech-capitalists-dont-care-about-humans-literally/">another 2025 interview</a>, I said:</p><blockquote><p>The rationalist community is very influential in Silicon Valley, and what the rationalist community basically tells its members is that <strong>once you&#8217;ve mastered this or that theory within the field of decision theory, once you&#8217;ve mastered the patterns of thought that are optimally rational, you then have direct access to fundamental truths about what the future ought to look like</strong>. And because rationality provides a universal and objective perspective on the world, you don&#8217;t need anyone else&#8217;s perspective. That is exactly how these billionaires in Silicon Valley are thinking about our collective future.</p></blockquote><p>In an article from around the same time, I <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/effective-altruism-is-a-dangerous">wrote</a>:</p><blockquote><p><span>This was a main point of </span><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/DxfpGi9hwvwLCf5iQ/objections-to-value-alignment-between-effective-altruists">yet another EA Forum</a><span> post by Cremer, bemoaning the worship of IQ. People like MacAskill, Bostrom, and Yudkowsky are elevated to </span><strong>an almost messianic level of cosmic importance</strong><span>. They are the prophets of EA-longtermism, sent by the Rationality Gods to deliver fundamental truths about the apocalyptic hazards and utopian promises that lie ahead.</span></p></blockquote><p>There are many more examples. Leahy is parroting a central thrust of my critique: the TESCREAL movement is fundamentally undemocratic and elitist.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is exactly what I&#8217;ve argued. In a <a href="https://www.techpolicy.press/podcast-resisting-ai-and-the-consolidation-of-power/">2024 interview with </a><em><a href="https://www.techpolicy.press/podcast-resisting-ai-and-the-consolidation-of-power/">Tech Policy Press</a></em>, I say:</p><blockquote><p><strong>It&#8217;s just worth noting that the way I understand the TESCREAL vision is as a kind of tyranny</strong>. This is a very particular view about what the future ought to look like that was crafted almost entirely by white men at elite universities like Oxford and in Silicon Valley, and now they&#8217;re trying to realize this future, and in doing that to impose this future on the entire rest of humanity. And the way they&#8217;re trying to realize this future is through AGI, because again, they believe that AGI is going to be the most important and the last invention we ever need to create. And if it&#8217;s value aligned &#8230; it&#8217;ll bring about that utopia. If it&#8217;s not value aligned, then by default it&#8217;ll kill everyone on Earth.</p></blockquote><p>In a <a href="https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/tech-capitalists-dont-care-about-humans-literally/">2025 interview</a>, I described the TESCREAL approach to building ASI as</p><blockquote><p><strong>deeply elitist and extremely undemocratic</strong>. Right now, with their billions and trillions of dollars, <strong>they are trying to create a new world run by post-humans without ever having inquired about the opinions and preferences of the rest of humanity. They&#8217;re doing this without our consent</strong>, and they don&#8217;t really care one bit about what the rest of us have to say.</p></blockquote><p>In my recent &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">Pro-Human Manifesto</a>,&#8221; I say:</p><blockquote><p>All the AI CEOs have insisted that AGI should benefit all of humanity, but we&#8217;ll see in the second half of this manifesto that <strong>their undemocratic, tyrannical approach to developing AGI suggests otherwise</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>From 2022:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6uH7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F07e96379-e3c8-45aa-bfbe-41b6262a56c4_1194x1438.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://x.com/search?q=undemocratic%20(from%3Axriskology)&amp;src=typed_query">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2023719708575633786&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;This is a core feature of the TESCREAL worldview: AGI will \&quot;usher in a heavenly golden age\&quot; despite the \&quot;downside risks\&quot; that it literally murders everyone on Earth. But we, the tech elite, will proceed without the consent of humanity, because \&quot;we\&quot; think the risk of YOUR death...&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-02-17T11:22:32.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;@DavidSKrueger yeah it&#8217;s a good reductio of my argument except that we all mostly believe machine intelligence is awesome and has the potential to usher in a heavenly golden age despite the downside risks. clearly changes the texture&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;tszzl&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;roon&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1918970926668054530/fy-ZsgJ7_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:11,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:22,&quot;like_count&quot;:116,&quot;impression_count&quot;:6829,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><strong>This is an integral part of the story that Gebru and I tell</strong> in explaining how <strong>all the leading AI companies directly emerged out of the TESCREAL movement</strong>. We write:</p><blockquote><p><strong>In 2010, Demis Hassabis, Mustafa Suleyman, and Shane Legg founded DeepMind, also with funding from TESCREAList billionaires Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Jaan Tallinn, among others</strong> (Shead, 2017) (see <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/download/13636/11599?inline=1#tab1">Table 1</a>). DeepMind&#8217;s mission is &#8220;solving intelligence to advance science and benefit humanity&#8221; [<a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/download/13636/11599?inline=1#79">79</a>], with CEO Hassabis describing himself as &#8220;working on AGI,&#8221; which he believes is &#8220;going to be the greatest thing ever to happen to humanity,&#8221; if we get it &#8220;right&#8221; [<a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/download/13636/11599?inline=1#80">80</a>]. Meanwhile, Legg delivered a talk on methods of defining and measuring &#8220;intelligence&#8221; at the 2010 Singularity Summit, based on his works discussed earlier [<a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/download/13636/11599?inline=1#81">81</a>]. <strong>The Singularity Summit was an annual event from 2006 to 2012, founded by Yudkowsky, Kurzweil, and Thiel [<a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/download/13636/11599?inline=1#82">82</a>]. It was after the summit in 2010 that, at Thiel&#8217;s California mansion, Hassabis approached Thiel in hopes of securing funding, which he received</strong> (Shead, 2020).</p></blockquote><p>I have also repeated this on many occasions before and after my paper with Gebru. In <a href="https://magazine.mindplex.ai/post/__tescrealism-has-the-silicon-valley-ruling-class-gone-to-crazy-town-emile-torres-in-conversation-with-r-u-sirius">October 2023</a>, I wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Why did DeepMind form in the first place? Why did Demis Hassabis &#8211; who was at a lot of these transhumanist conferences &#8211; found it? And Shane Legg, who received $100,000 from the Canadian Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence after completing his PhD thesis, and gave talks at the Singularity Summit conferences.</p></blockquote><p>In <a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/06/24/ai-doomers-have-warned-of-the-tech-pocalypse-while-doing-their-best-to-accelerate-it/">June 2024</a>, I said:</p><blockquote><p>B<span>oth Hassabis and Legg gave talks about AGI-related issues in 2010, shortly before co-founding DeepMind. At the time, </span><strong><span>DeepMind needed money to get started, so after the Singularity Summit, Hassabis </span><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/07/deepminds-demis-hassabis-used-chess-to-get-peter-thiels-attention.html">followed Thiel back</a><span> to his mansion, where Hassabis asked Thiel for financial support to start DeepMind</span></strong><span>. Thiel obliged, offering Hassabis $1.85 million, and that&#8217;s how DeepMind was born. &#8230; </span>If not for Yudkowsky&#8217;s Singularity Summit, DeepMind might not have gotten off the ground.&#8221;</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have repeatedly said that <strong>EA has roots in two phenomena</strong>: the &#8220;global ethics&#8221; of Peter Singer and the transhumanist movement. Here&#8217;s what I write with Gebru:</p><blockquote><p>Note that <strong>EA also has roots going back to the &#8220;global ethics&#8221; of the utilitarian Peter Singer</strong>, who also advocated for infanticide of disabled children, writing &#8220;we think that some infants with severe disabilities should be killed&#8221; (quoted in Ekland-Olson, 2011, p. 204). However, <strong>the EA movement was cofounded circa 2009 by Toby Ord, who coauthored an article with Bostrom three years earlier that essentially defended the transhumanist position on human enhancement</strong> (Bostrom and Ord, 2006). Ord was, furthermore, a Research Associate at Bostrom&#8217;s Future of Humanity Institute (FHI) as early as 2007, and over the past several years, the EA movement as a whole has been shifting toward longtermist considerations (Matthews, 2022), some of which are more or less overtly transhumanist (see, <em>e.g.</em>, Ord&#8217;s (2020) discussion of &#8220;our potential&#8221; in the section titled &#8220;Quality&#8221; of <em>The Precipice</em>).</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m really surprised that Leahy didn&#8217;t mention Mollie Gleiberman&#8217;s work here, as this is the central claim of her <a href="https://repository.uantwerpen.be/docman/irua/371b9dmotoM74">important scholarly investigation</a> into the origins of the EA movement. She argues that longtermism and existential risk mitigation was the primary goal of EA from the very start:</p><blockquote><p>[T]his agenda has been present in EA since its inception, where it was hidden in plain sight. From the very beginning, EA discourse operated on two levels, one for the general public and new recruits (focused on global poverty) and one for the core EA community (focused on the transhumanist agenda articulated by Nick Bostrom, Eliezer Yudkowsky, and others, centered on AI-safety/x- risk, now lumped under the banner of &#8216;longtermism&#8217;). The article&#8217;s aim is narrowly focused on presenting rich qualitative data to make legible the distinction between public-facing EA and core EA.</p></blockquote><p>She explicitly describes this as a &#8220;<strong>bait and switch</strong>&#8221; (the phrase that Leahy uses), and I have made the same claim in interviews and articles &#8212; citing Gleiberman.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A central &#8212; arguably the most important &#8212; claim that I&#8217;ve made since 2023 or so is that <strong>the TESCREAL movement is fundamentally pro-extinctionist</strong>. Many people in the movement do think that &#8220;replacing humans with AI is good.&#8221; In 2024, I wrote <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/team-human-vs-team-posthuman-which-side-are-you-on/">an entire article about this</a>. Later that year, the influential scholar Ruha Benjamin published an article in the <em>Los Angeles Review of Books</em> that states: &#8220;<strong><span>In fact, their worldview is perhaps best understood as pro-extinctionist in that, as Torres </span><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/team-human-vs-team-posthuman-which-side-are-you-on/"><span>argues</span></a></strong><span>, these far-futurists are enthusiastic about &#8216;legacy humans&#8217; giving way to a smarter, stronger, more enhanced species of posthumans.&#8221; My &#8220;</span><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1"><span>Pro-Human Manifesto</span></a><span>&#8221; is the most comprehensive piece ever written on this topic.</span></p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1781049721693340023&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The tweet below was retweeted by Eliezer Yudkowsky, who's a \&quot;pro-extinctionist\&quot; just like most other TESCREALists. For details, see the second half of this article: <a class=\&quot;tweet-url\&quot; href=\&quot;https://www.truthdig.com/articles/team-human-vs-team-posthuman-which-side-are-you-on/\&quot;>truthdig.com/articles/team-&#8230;</a> Don't be fooled by the misleading rhetoric.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-04-18T19:58:38.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;You're a liar, sir.\n\n\&quot;[AIs] might tolerate us as pets or workers. (...) If we are useless, and we have no value [to the AI] and we're in the way, then we would go extinct, but maybe that's rightly so.\&quot;\n- R.Sutton\n\nA man that is perfectly fine w/ AIs murdering you &amp;amp; your children.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;the_yanco&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Yanco&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/615181052198436865/vWG1mFFI_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:5,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:2,&quot;like_count&quot;:8,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2711,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1938787262030061820&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;God damnit, <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@nytimes</span>. I have been screaming about this for *years*. The TESCREAL ideologies are *pro-extinctionist*--they do not want our species to exist in the future. Here are just a few recent articles I wrote about this (below). Please take this seriously! https://t.co/gTGBAhlTaW&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-06-28T02:31:18.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:20,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:378,&quot;like_count&quot;:1973,&quot;impression_count&quot;:92645,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Again, EA was longtermist from the very start. Leahy&#8217;s statement is very misleading.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Karnofsky is also a figure I&#8217;ve mentioned frequently, as when I <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/191242128/the-race-to-superintelligence-isnt-a-collective-action-problem">wrote</a> (summarizing earlier articles):</p><blockquote><p><strong><span>Karnofsky was an important figure in the early development of EA. He started GiveWell</span></strong><span>, which worked closely with Toby Ord and William MacAskill&#8217;s Giving What We Can, and cofounded Open Philanthropy (now Coefficient Giving). </span><strong><span>He was roommates with Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, and married Dario&#8217;s sister Daniela. He&#8217;s now a member of the technical staff at Anthropic</span></strong><span>, where he advises &#8220;the company on preparing for risks from advanced AI.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote><p>From 2022:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1573355416389668865&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;This is from Holden Karnofsky. I think it's important to understand what these folks are talking about: although they avoid *words* like \&quot;transhumanism\&quot; and \&quot;the Singularity,\&quot; these are central to their worldview. For example, this is the Singularity as Ray Kurzweil imagines it. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-23T16:55:37.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/FdWuMhrWAAA-IUL.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/bD0Gjgp0RN&quot;,&quot;alt_text&quot;:&quot;One possible future is stagnation: we'll reach the economy's \&quot;maximum size\&quot; and growth will essentially stop. We'll all be concerned with how to divide up the resources we have, and the days of a growing pie and a dynamic economy will be over forever.\n\nAnother is explosion: growth will accelerate further, to the point where the world economy is doubling every year, or week, or hour. A Duplicator-like technology (such as digital people or, as I&#8217;ll discuss in future pieces, advanced AI) could drive growth like this. If this happens, everything will be changing far faster than humans can process it.\n\nAnother is collapse: a global catastrophe will bring civilization to its knees, or wipe out humanity entirely, and we'll never reach today's level of growth again.\n\n&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:2,&quot;like_count&quot;:7,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Gebru and I also <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">highlight the crucial role that Open Philanthropy has played</a> in the development of TESCREALism. You cannot understand the development of this movement without some notion of Open Philanthropy and the way it&#8217;s funneled Dustin Moskovitz&#8217;s fortune to TESCREAL organizations.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Gebru and I write: &#8220;<strong>OpenAI also received a US$30M grant from the TESCREAL organization Open Philanthropy</strong>.&#8221; I have also repeatedly noted that <strong>MIRI was funded by Open Philanthropy</strong> (something Leahy misses).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to overstate how big of an influence they were.&#8221; <strong>This is a clear implication of Gebru and my paper</strong>, though we also highlight Jaan Tallinn as being a prolific funder of the TESCREAL ecosystem. From 2024:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1832512698665295943&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Correct. OpenPhil is a TESCREAL organization with immense power. Follow the money. The TESCREAL worldview is starting to infect the mainstream media, as indicated by the post below. &#128071;&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-09-07T20:14:08.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Open Philanthropy is everywhere. Once you see it, you can&#8217;t unsee. https://t.co/Yb7MjeMqxK&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;KTmBoyle&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Katherine Boyle&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1465499745183571976/gh4oRvzX_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:12,&quot;like_count&quot;:54,&quot;impression_count&quot;:4808,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have repeatedly mentioned this in interviews since around 2023. Here&#8217;s <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/marc-andreessen-doesnt-introspect">a recent example</a> from an article of mine:</p><blockquote><p><span>While researching a section of the book, I re-listened to </span><a href="https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/holden-karnofsky-concrete-ai-safety-frontier-ai-companies/">an interview with Holden Karnofsky</a><span> on the 80,000 Hours podcast. Karnofsky was an important figure in the early development of EA. He started GiveWell, which worked closely with Toby Ord and William MacAskill&#8217;s Giving What We Can, and cofounded Open Philanthropy (now Coefficient Giving). </span><strong><span>He was roommates with Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, and married Dario&#8217;s sister Daniela</span></strong><span>. He&#8217;s now a member of the technical staff at Anthropic, where he advises &#8220;the company on preparing for risks from advanced AI.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is, once again, an implication of my paper with Gebru that no reader could miss. <strong>It&#8217;s what most of my work since has focused on</strong>. It&#8217;s why some people who don&#8217;t understand the TESCREAL thesis call it a &#8220;<a href="https://medium.com/institute-for-ethics-and-emerging-technologies/conspiracy-theories-left-futurism-and-the-attack-on-tescreal-456972fe02aa">conspiracy theory</a>&#8221; (it&#8217;s not).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>With respect to virtually everything that Leahy says, there&#8217;s an article or tweet of mine to match it. Here&#8217;s me using the word &#8220;<strong>incestuous</strong>&#8221; to describe the TESCREAL movement:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/1802417190018195569&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;The TESCREAL movement is one big tangle of incestuous funding channels through which *billions of dollars* are being distributed to people and orgs driven by techno-utopian fantasies of building safe AGI, reengineering humanity, and conquering the universe--all of which is&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-06-16T19:05:20.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:4,&quot;like_count&quot;:13,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1298,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Rather than &#8220;scene,&#8221; Gebru and I call it a &#8220;movement.&#8221; See the next section for discussion.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is exactly what I&#8217;ve repeatedly argued. In a 2023 article for <em>Truthdig</em>, I <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-accelerationism-and-the-pursuit-of-cosmic-utopia/">wrote</a>:</p><blockquote><p><strong>The differences between e/acc and EA longtermism are, therefore, relatively small</strong>. While e/acc&#8217;s like to play up these differences in interviews and blog posts, the two positions occupy nearly the same location on the ideological map and, in practice, their visions of the future are more or less indistinguishable.</p></blockquote><p>The central thesis of this article is that e/acc is just a minor variation of the TESCREAL worldview.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Same as above.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-38" href="#footnote-anchor-38" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">38</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The &#8220;TESREAL&#8221; ideologies, as discussed below.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-39" href="#footnote-anchor-39" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">39</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>But, of course, Gebru and I gave it a name back in 2022. We repeatedly discussed it on social media, and I published an overview of the idea in 2023. Our coauthored paper came out later and, once again, it&#8217;s been a central focus of my research ever since. Furthermore, I note in <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">this article of mine</a> that others have named very similar phenomena, including Adam Becker&#8217;s &#8220;ideology of technological salvation,&#8221; which is nearly synonymous with &#8220;TESCREAL.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-40" href="#footnote-anchor-40" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">40</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though a deeper analysis would reveal that cosmism is very much a part of the cluster, too.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-41" href="#footnote-anchor-41" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">41</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Singularitarianism is the centerpiece of <a href="https://pdf.thecompendium.ai/the_compendium.pdf">Leahy&#8217;s 2025 analysis</a> of the topic, though he seems to have realized since then (maybe from reading my articles?) that it&#8217;s only one component in a cluster of ideologies that have shaped the Silicon Valley worldview &#8212; exactly as I&#8217;ve argued in my solo pieces and study with Gebru.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-42" href="#footnote-anchor-42" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">42</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that there are also anti-TESCREAL doomers, such as participants in Stop AI. I write about this <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/179767565/4-the-stop-ai-debacle">here</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-43" href="#footnote-anchor-43" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">43</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If I had more time and patience, I could have added footnotes to almost every single sentence &#8212; showing that I&#8217;ve previously said what Leahy says. Hopefully the examples I give in these footnotes and within the body text are enough to get the point across.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-44" href="#footnote-anchor-44" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">44</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Wright <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2dVbQogHGY&amp;t=1s">interviewed me on Onezero</a> in 2023. We discussed the TESCREAL bundle. But I don&#8217;t blame him for not remembering all the details of my argument.</p><div id="youtube2-v2dVbQogHGY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;v2dVbQogHGY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;1s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/v2dVbQogHGY?start=1s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-45" href="#footnote-anchor-45" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">45</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Indeed, <strong>it&#8217;s not just in his interview with Wright that Leahy makes claims almost identical to central theses of mine</strong>. In an interview from last year with the Future of Life Institute (which has historically been aligned with the TESCREAL movement), Leahy <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUV5-SLdkuQ&amp;t=1324s">said</a>:</p><blockquote><p>It would be good, actually, if the utopians were not in charge. <strong>I think the utopians are the biggest problem because they have an ideology, they have a burning ideology, that justifies anything basically as long as it allows them to get to AGI faster</strong> because I mean &#8230; this is always the problem with utopist ideologies, is <strong>Utopia is so good that it justifies anything you know we saw with like FTX</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>As early as 2019, <strong>I was making the exact argument</strong>. In a 2021 <em>Aeon </em>article, I <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo?ref=disconnect.blog">warned</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Yet the implications of longtermism are far more worrisome. If our top four priorities are to avoid an existential catastrophe &#8211; ie, to fulfil &#8216;our potential&#8217; &#8211; then <strong>what&#8217;s not on the table for making this happen</strong>? Consider <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/what-s-it-all-for-is-a-question-that-belongs-in-the-past">Thomas Nagel</a>&#8217;s comment about how the notion of what we might call the &#8216;greater good&#8217; has been used to &#8216;justify&#8217; certain atrocities (eg, during war). If the ends &#8216;justify&#8217; the means, he argues, and the ends are thought to be sufficiently large (eg, national security), then this &#8216;can be brought to bear to ease the consciences of those responsible for a certain number of charred babies&#8217;. <strong>Now imagine what might be &#8216;justified&#8217; if the &#8216;greater good&#8217; isn&#8217;t national security but the cosmic potential of Earth-originating intelligent life over the coming trillions of years?</strong> During the Second World War, 40 million civilians perished, but compare this number to the 10^54 or more people (in Bostrom&#8217;s <a href="https://www.existential-risk.org/faq.pdf">estimate</a>) who could come to exist if we can avoid an existential catastrophe. <strong>What shouldn&#8217;t we do to &#8216;protect&#8217; and &#8216;preserve&#8217; this potential? To ensure that these unborn people come to exist? What means can&#8217;t be &#8216;justified&#8217; by this cosmically significant moral end?</strong></p></blockquote><p>In a 2022 article for <em>Salon </em>titled &#8220;What the Sam Bankman-Fried Debacle Can Teach Us about &#8216;Longtermism,&#8217;&#8221; I <a href="https://www.salon.com/2022/11/20/what-the-sam-bankman-fried-debacle-can-teach-us-about-longtermism/">observed</a> that</p><blockquote><p>over and over again throughout history, <strong>the combination of these two ingredients &#8212; utopianism and the belief that ends justify the means &#8212; has been disastrous</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>In a 2023 article for <em>The New Statesman</em> titled &#8220;Longtermism Poses a Real Threat to Humanity&#8221; (recall again that &#8220;longtermism&#8221; basically refers to the TESCREAL bundle), I <a href="https://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2023/08/longtermism-threat-humanity">wrote</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Yet my upbringing also made me realise that <strong>utopian thinking has a menacing downside</strong>. The belief in utopia has led people to engage in radical and extreme behaviours. <strong>If one believes that the means are justified by the ends, and the ends are quite literally a paradise full of infinite value, then what exactly is off the table for realising these ends</strong>? &#8230;</p><p>When I was a longtermist, I didn&#8217;t think much about the potential dangers of this ideology. However, the more I studied utopian movements that became violent, the more I was struck by two ingredients at the heart of such movements. The first was &#8211; of course &#8211; a utopian vision of the future, which believers see as containing infinite, or at least astronomical, amounts of value. The second was a broadly &#8220;utilitarian&#8221; mode of moral reasoning, which is to say the kind of means-ends reasoning above. <strong>The ends can sometimes justify the means, especially when the ends are a magical world full of immortal beings awash in &#8220;surpassing bliss and delight&#8221;</strong>, to quote Bostrom&#8217;s 2020 &#8220;Letter from Utopia&#8221;.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed, <em><strong>this has been one of the most prominent themes of my writing about these ideologies since 2021</strong></em>. (See my 2023 article &#8220;<a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/before-its-too-late-buddy/">Before It&#8217;s Too Late, Buddy</a>&#8221; in <em>Truthdig </em>for yet another example.) To my knowledge, <em><strong>no one else</strong></em><strong> has made exactly this point in the context of the ASI race and the ideologies driving it</strong> &#8212; like, literally no one. I have mentioned exactly what Leahy says in just about every interview I&#8217;ve given, which likely numbers in the hundreds, and in many other articles in addition to those above.</p><p><strong>I&#8217;ve also repeatedly cited Bankman-Fried as an example of the dangers of what I call the &#8220;utopian mindset,&#8221;</strong> as when I wrote in the <a href="https://www.salon.com/2022/11/20/what-the-sam-bankman-fried-debacle-can-teach-us-about-longtermism/">aforementioned 2022 article</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Critics of longtermism, like myself, saw this coming from miles away. Not, specifically, the implosion of Bankman-Fried&#8217;s empire, but something very bad &#8212; something that would cause serious harm to real people &#8212; in the name of longtermism. For years, <strong>I have been warning that longtermism could &#8220;justify&#8221; actions much worse than fraud</strong>, which Bankman-Fried appears to have committed in his effort to &#8220;get filthy rich, for charity&#8217;s sake.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>I haven&#8217;t watched the rest of Leahy&#8217;s Future of Life Institute interview, but I wonder what else he says that mirrors my thinking on such issues. My guess is that there are other instances of him copying my claims.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-46" href="#footnote-anchor-46" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">46</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is my understanding of the situation. See her forthcoming book <em><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Deep-Unlearning/Timnit-Gebru/9781668093078">Deep Unlearning</a></em> for a first-hand account.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-47" href="#footnote-anchor-47" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">47</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Or am I missing a fourth?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-48" href="#footnote-anchor-48" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">48</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If someone had contacted me about possible intellectual plagiarism, I sure as hell would have responded! I think most people with a degree of integrity would have. I&#8217;m frankly quite surprised that Leahy chose to simply ignore the issue, as if it would go away. If anything, his non-response makes me more suspicious about something unethical is going on here.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-49" href="#footnote-anchor-49" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">49</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Paragraph breaks were added to this quote.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-50" href="#footnote-anchor-50" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">50</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He also blocked a friend of mine &#8212; who&#8217;s in the field of AI safety &#8212; for critiquing some of his ideas. May be has thin skin.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-51" href="#footnote-anchor-51" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">51</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A YouTube commenter also points this out under the interview:</p><blockquote><p>I. J. Good a sci-fi author? Connor is correct about him originating the idea of intelligence explosion but I think he mixed up Good with maybe Vernor Vinge who also wrote about technological singularity and indeed was a sci-fi author. Also, if I recall correctly, later in the interview he mixes up another name but I don't remember who now (I listened to the interview a few days ago).</p></blockquote></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA["The Altruists": A New Netflix Series about Bankman-Fried and EA (Pfff)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Plus, Rationalist outreach is an embarrassment, AI chatbots are hilariously annoying, and Timnit Gebru's new book will be out soon! (2,000 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-altruists-a-new-netflix-series</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-altruists-a-new-netflix-series</guid><pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 11:24:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c4f588bf-d63a-437d-a9da-1f641152c63a_500x666.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>&#8220;Ambitious Young Idealists&#8221;</h3><p>I recently heard that Netflix will premiere a new series titled <em><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/the-altruists-netflix-first-look-ftx-drama.html">The Altruists</a></em> on November 19 of this year. It&#8217;s about Sam Bankman-Fried and his partner in crime, Caroline Ellison, and how they committed <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FGOI8Ve2ow">one of the worst financial crimes</a> in US history. The Effective Altruist (EA) movement will also, it seems, feature prominently in the series. The <a href="http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2026/08/13/netflixs-the-altruists-date-announcement-and-first-look-217213/20260813netflix04/">press release states</a> that it&#8217;s</p><blockquote><p>the story of Sam Bankman-Fried and Caroline Ellison, two hyper-smart, ambitious young idealists who tried to remake the global financial system in the blink of an eye &#8212; before they were accused of stealing $8 billion and became Gen Z&#8217;s own Bonnie &amp; Clyde.</p></blockquote><p>I hope <em>The Altruists</em> doesn&#8217;t present Bankman-Fried and EA in a favorable light, but describing the main characters as &#8220;hyper-smart, ambitious young idealists&#8221; suggests that it might. Furthermore, the comparison to Bonnie and Clyde raises eyebrows because the two are often romanticized as folk heroes in popular culture, and the series is being <a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/the-altruists-netflix-first-look-ftx-drama.html">produced in part</a> by Vox Media &#8212; which hosts a vertical called Future Perfect, <a href="https://www.vox.com/funding">once funded by an organization run by</a> Sam Bankman-Fried and his brother Gabe! (Note that I was once a member &#8212; I am so embarrassed to admit this &#8212; of an &#8220;elite&#8221; EA group in DC. Another member, in the same room as me, was Gabe Bankman-Fried.)</p><p>Or, consider <a href="http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2026/08/13/netflixs-the-altruists-date-announcement-and-first-look-217213/20260813netflix04/">this quote</a> from Graham Moore, the writer, creator, and showrunner of the series:</p><blockquote><p>From the very beginning, I was so fascinated by both Sam's and Caroline's real stories. Those are both characters who I could not have possibly made up had I tried &#8212; I'm not nearly a good enough writer to create characters as fascinating as either Sam Bankman-Fried or Caroline Ellison. ... This form [of storytelling] allowed us to tell not just a kind of headline version of the story, but to tell what we believed was the much more fascinating, intimate, personal, deeply heartbreaking story of these two people.</p></blockquote><p>&#8220;Deeply heartbreaking&#8221; &#8212; you mean for the <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/former-ftx-ceo-bankman-fried-charged-in-eight-count-indictment">millions of people</a> who Bankman-Fried and his EA accomplices stole <a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/samuel-bankman-fried-sentenced-25-years-his-orchestration-multiple-fraudulent-schemes">over $8 billion from</a>? Or for poor old Sam and Caroline who just wanted to make the world better and, you know, tried a little too hard? If this series is appropriately critical of EA, I can imagine myself really liking it. But I&#8217;ll be deeply disappointed if it portrays the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/effective-altruism-is-a-dangerous?utm_source=publication-search">villainous EA movement</a> in sympathetic terms.</p><p>I also got a chuckle out of the fact that William MacAskill will be played by a Scottish actor named <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Greenlees">Jack Greenlees</a>. I wonder if there will be a humorous scene in which MacAskill talks to Bankman-Fried about how he considered getting the gap between his two front teeth closed &#8220;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/the-reluctant-prophet-of-effective-altruism">because studies showed</a> that more &#8216;classically&#8217; handsome people were more impactful fund-raisers.&#8221; Also, Barack and Michelle Obama are among the series&#8217; executive producers, and the CEO of FTX Digital Markets is played by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Rife">Matt Rife</a> (lol). 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If you have an extra $7 to spare each month, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. If you don&#8217;t, I am nonetheless immensely grateful that you find my articles worth reading! Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Rationalist Outreach Is Embarrassing</h3><p>Speaking of EA, the Rationalists &#8212; a community out of which EA grew &#8212; have been experimenting with new ways of getting their AI-doomer message across. Exhibit A is a recent video from Nate Soares, coauthor of <em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/under-a-mask-of-ai-doomerism-the-familiar-face-of-eugenics/">If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies</a></em> with the doomer-in-chief <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/eliezer-yudkowskys-long-history-of?utm_source=publication-search">Eliezer Yudkowsky</a>. I have absolutely no idea who they think this will appeal to, as I find it unbelievably cringe-inducing. What do you think?</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;5b0f524a-bc3b-4773-8728-ebaf3a9a0c9a&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>It&#8217;s clear they have a ton of money for &#8220;outreach,&#8221; but despite their intellectual superiority (you know, super-high IQs and near-perfect rationality), my sense is that videos like this will hurt their cause.</p><p>Another example is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYIm72GqrE">this music video</a>, in which the singer, who intermittently wears a chain of paperclips around his neck, sings: &#8220;This is how we&#8217;ll die / Race to AGI / Oh oh.&#8221; The chorus consists of the repeating line: &#8220;Last year alive&#8221; &#8212; because we&#8217;ll soon &#8220;be a <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/squiggle-maximizer-formerly-paperclip-maximizer">paperclip</a>&#8221; and &#8220;all the value will be lost&#8221; (a reference to the estimated 10^58 digital people who could exist if we build aligned superintelligence and then colonize the universe &#8212; <em>won&#8217;t someone think of all the digital unborn!</em>) He even references <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/wireheading">wireheading</a> involving &#8220;AI hyperporn.&#8221; The song closes with repetitions of: &#8220;S-T-O-P.&#8221;</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;a5c0fceb-ed80-47f1-82ec-4a5738dc3181&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>As you may have noticed, Yudkowsky and Soares both make cameos, with the latter <a href="https://x.com/So8res/status/2082952909034279005">describing</a> this song as a &#8220;banger&#8221; on social media. I suspect this &#8212; and Soares&#8217; &#8220;big smart&#8221; video above &#8212; was filmed at <a href="https://lighthaven.space">Lighthaven</a>, the Rationalist doomer compound in Berkeley operated by a group called Lightcone Infrastructure, which also <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/lightcone-infrastructure">maintains the website LessWrong</a>.</p><h3>You Wanna Get Food, or Something?</h3><p>In <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-increasingly-powerful-ai-models">my previous article</a>, I argued that AI capabilities may be advancing, and such advancements could carry significant risks to society, but that these facts alone do <em>not necessarily</em> imply that AGI, ASI, or the Singularity are imminent &#8212; or even getting closer.</p><p>For a chuckle, here&#8217;s a <a href="https://x.com/CaptainInsightX/status/2081355060886544623">pretty hilarious video</a> mocking the conversational limitations of current AI systems &#8212; specifically, the unnatural and obnoxious ways that ChatGPT engages in dialogue. I have never had the urge to punch someone in the face while talking to them (even in the most annoying of circumstances), but I feel my fists clenching when I watch this:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;3e035d5f-962d-47b8-98d0-64bb0db77ef5&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Although very funny, it also highlights some serious questions about the extent to which AI chatbots may be influencing &#8212; subtly or otherwise &#8212; our patterns of speaking, writing, and even thinking. The worry is especially acute when it comes to children growing up with these systems.</p><p>As a friend of mine has repeatedly emphasized to me: What are the implications of AI with respect to the <em>socialization</em> of children? What might we expect when a nontrivial percentage of young people&#8217;s interactions involve AI rather than other humans? Even in the case of human-to-human contact, it&#8217;s likely that many others in their cohort will have been influenced by AI, meaning that even this form of interpersonal exchange may be tainted by LLM rigmarole. What should we expect from an entire generation that, during its formative developmental years, had conversations with ChatGPT like the one above?</p><p>My dad sent me another video that illustrates a similar idea &#8212; in this case, all the characters are relying on AI chatbots to tell them how to respond to others. It&#8217;s pretty hilarious:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;6265c43c-a3dc-48ed-9c9b-f1fef8031438&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Yes, of course, every generation has worried about how new technologies might be unraveling the fabric of society, thus dooming it to a slow deterioration until the worst dystopian nightmares have been fully realized. Taylor Lorenz recently noted in <a href="https://x.com/TaylorLorenz/status/2085954979630878730">an amusing thread</a> that novels were once &#8220;compared to opium, alcohol and cigarettes and parents wanted restrictions on children being able to read them. They wanted to raise the age to read novels to 18.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/TaylorLorenz/status/2085955653659746694&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;1906: \&quot;Books have become the modern narcotic.\&quot; \n\nNovels were compared to opium, alcohol and cigarettes and parents wanted restrictions on children being able to read them. They wanted to raise the age to read novels to 18 &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;TaylorLorenz&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Taylor Lorenz&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1653562547147243522/omMhX57a_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-08T05:05:57.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HPLNnNya4AAHjmp.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/fp3DRaTNNy&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:38,&quot;like_count&quot;:239,&quot;impression_count&quot;:17452,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>But surely some of the concerns around AI are warranted. Many studies, for example, have converged on the conclusion that even moderate use of AI can &#8220;<a href="https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/">potentially reduce</a> critical thinking, creativity and problem-solving.&#8221; Or, as an <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260417-ai-chatbots-could-be-making-you-stupider">article in the BBC</a> put it, &#8220;AI chatbots could be making you stupider.&#8221;</p><p>Of course, future research may disconfirm this finding, but right now the totality of available evidence clearly points toward: &#8220;We should be seriously concerned about the impact of AI on our cognitive functioning,&#8221; especially the functioning of younger generations who&#8217;ve been conversing with AI since childhood.</p><p>What do you think?</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>The Pigeon App</h3><p>Lorenz also apprised me of a new app called Carrier Pidge. It was developed by a young man who <a href="https://x.com/noah_bino/status/2087687049566421074">posted on X</a> that he &#8220;spent 3 weeks building a texting app slower than email.&#8221; When you send a message, it traverses communication systems &#8220;at pigeon speed,&#8221; meaning that it takes a message 22 hours to &#8220;fly&#8221; from Los Angeles to New York City. He adds that &#8220;sometimes the bird dies &amp; the message isn&#8217;t delivered.&#8221; Here&#8217;s a video of the process (no audio, fyi):</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;301e4f0d-1a87-4f31-bf74-2d37b266a01f&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>You can download the app <a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/carrier-pidge/id6762161637">here</a>. I did that, but can&#8217;t send a message because I currently have no friends in the &#8220;flock.&#8221; If <em>you</em> download it, let me know and I&#8217;ll send you a message!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5MHd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbdb7d0fb-54c7-4153-85f2-02211799804e_666x574.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5MHd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbdb7d0fb-54c7-4153-85f2-02211799804e_666x574.png 424w, 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The app obviously won&#8217;t catch on &#8212; it was created for a laugh &#8212; but it gestures at something most of us desperately want these days: for life to <em>slow down a bit</em>. Things are moving too quickly. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m speaking only for myself when I say that we receive too many emails and messages. The 24/7 news never lets up. Many of us are suffering from acute cases of <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/are-you-suffering-from-crisis-fatigue?utm_source=publication-search">crisis fatigue</a>. Etc.</p><p>Although there are many aspects of modern life that I wouldn&#8217;t voluntarily give up, I also feel &#8212; as many of us do &#8212; a kind of nostalgia for the &#8220;old days&#8221; when information overload wasn&#8217;t such a pervasive problem. The Carrie Pidge app, at the very least, reminds us that there are other &#8212; perhaps better &#8212; ways of doing things.</p><h3>Timnit Gebru&#8217;s New Book</h3><p>Finally, I wanted to share a bit of satire from Timnit Gebru, who recently <a href="https://x.com/timnitGebru/status/2085497356850442579\">posted this</a> on social media:</p><blockquote><p>&#128226;<span>I&#8217;ll be creating a fully autonomous startup, staffed by AGI. I care deeply about humanity&#8217;s future and can&#8217;t wait to work alongside ethical workers to hopefully make a gazillion amount of </span>&#128176;<span>. Surely I shouldn&#8217;t be left out of the retirement and oil </span>&#128184;<span> flowing into this bubble.</span></p><p><span>Making the money that I&#8217;m going to be making is just an unavoidable side effect of me saving the world, which I unfortunately have to endure.</span></p><p><span>Given that only I can do this (and let me just add that it&#8217;s dangerous to let anyone else attempt this), it&#8217;s unfortunate that only I will be accumulating all this wealth. But that&#8217;s the price of carrying the world&#8217;s burden and being tasked with bringing utopia to all of us.</span></p></blockquote><p>That&#8217;s a pretty good encapsulation of how people at the AI companies think. </p><p>Note also that Dr. Gebru has a forthcoming book titled <em><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Deep-Unlearning/Timnit-Gebru/9781668093078">Deep Unlearning: The Rise of AI and the Radicalization of a Tech Idealist</a></em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg" width="311" height="463.216149068323" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1199,&quot;width&quot;:805,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:311,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Cover of my new book, Deep Unlearning: The Rise of AI and The Radicalization of a Tech Idealist.   There are two concentric circles in the book, the left being circuits in black an white, and the right being a bunch of dots with orange accents. The cover background is cream. And the words are written in black except for \&quot;Un\&quot; which is in orange.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Cover of my new book, Deep Unlearning: The Rise of AI and The Radicalization of a Tech Idealist.   There are two concentric circles in the book, the left being circuits in black an white, and the right being a bunch of dots with orange accents. The cover background is cream. And the words are written in black except for &quot;Un&quot; which is in orange." title="Cover of my new book, Deep Unlearning: The Rise of AI and The Radicalization of a Tech Idealist.   There are two concentric circles in the book, the left being circuits in black an white, and the right being a bunch of dots with orange accents. The cover background is cream. And the words are written in black except for &quot;Un&quot; which is in orange." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Pm4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d823e78-fc30-405a-a965-0f713fb94cfe_805x1199.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;ve not read the entire tome yet, but I was given an opportunity to look over a chapter in which Timnit discusses our collaboration, which led to <a href="https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636/11599">a 2024 paper on the TESCREAL ideologies</a>. (For an intro to the TESCREAL concept, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym?utm_source=publication-search">read this</a>.)</p><p>That chapter was, unsurprisingly, extremely good. Timnit has an incredible ability to identify the crux of an issue, expose the core problem within it, and articulate it in powerfully insightful ways. Indeed, there have been many occasions in which I&#8217;ve messaged her (especially during our collaboration) with something like: &#8220;This statement by X seems off to me. But I can&#8217;t figure out exactly <em>why</em> or find the words to express what I want to say.&#8221; With envious ease, she&#8217;d shoot back a sentence or two that consistently left me thinking: &#8220;God damn, yes, that is <em>exactly</em> what I was fumbling over my own thoughts trying to express!&#8221;</p><p>You can pre-order the book <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Deep-Unlearning/Timnit-Gebru/9781668093078">here</a>. I will, of course, write a review once it&#8217;s out, and Timnit will appear on my podcast <em>Dystopia Now</em> to discuss it. Very excited for the book release, and I hope it becomes a bestseller.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3>PS. An Amazing Solar Eclipse</h3><p>A few years ago, I witnessed my first total solar eclipse in Cleveland, Ohio. I&#8217;m not big on seeking out new <em>experiences</em> &#8212; oftentimes, I&#8217;d rather sit at home and read about something than go out and experience it. (Visiting new cities and countries is the one exception, although once I&#8217;m ensconced in a new place, I&#8217;m usually content to sit at a cafe reading and writing all day.)</p><p>So, I wasn&#8217;t especially excited about the eclipse, and didn&#8217;t expect much. But holy hell, it was <em>incredible</em>. I can&#8217;t describe with words how profound it was. The sky darkening in the shadow of the moon wasn&#8217;t <em>anything</em> like sunset. It was as if the sun itself had dimmed &#8212; as if I were suddenly experiencing a different sun, on a different planet elsewhere in the universe.</p><p>On Wednesday, I wasn&#8217;t in the path of totality, and it wasn&#8217;t in the middle of the day. Nonetheless, experiencing the penumbra of the moon&#8217;s shadow at sunset was still deeply unsettling in the most marvelous of ways. I took videos of the event, but won&#8217;t share them yet because they would reveal my exact location.</p><p>Instead, enjoy this video posted online, which might have been taken in Spain (I&#8217;m not sure). The cheers and shrieks from the crowd gives me chills. Incredible stuff:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;92d89f2d-cdf4-4721-9b31-a5593dc1160b&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Wishing everyone the very best. As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Increasingly Powerful AI Models Do NOT Imply that Superintelligence Is Imminent]]></title><description><![CDATA[(2,500 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-increasingly-powerful-ai-models</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-increasingly-powerful-ai-models</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 16:18:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2733c4ce-63c9-4c94-989c-75ca7ec6b596_1200x1896.avif" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tl;dr</p><p>There is no contradiction between the following statements:</p><ol><li><p>AI models are becoming increasingly powerful.</p></li><li><p>These increasingly powerful AI models pose significant risks to society, perhaps even humanity itself.</p></li><li><p>None of this is bringing us <em>any closer</em> to AGI, ASI, or the Singularity.</p></li></ol><p>In other words, one can accept that AI systems are advancing quickly, these advances pose serious risks, and ASI remains as distant today as it was, say, in 2022. This article explains why.</p><h3>&#8220;Much Less Weird than it Seems Like It Should Be&#8221;</h3><p>As we&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/preparing-for-the-singularity-an?utm_source=publication-search">discussed on numerous occasions</a>, many people in Silicon Valley are convinced that the Singularity is imminent. Sam Altman <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/the-gentle-singularity">wrote last year</a> that &#8220;we are past the event horizon; the takeoff has started.&#8221; In January, Musk <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2007738847397036143">posted on X</a> that &#8220;we have entered the Singularity.&#8221; He reiterated this in early August, after news about OpenAI&#8217;s Astra model (discussed below) broke, saying:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2083584786161938810?s=61&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@willdepue</span> Welcome to the Singularity. \n\nHow&#8217;s the temperature?&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2053244804520427520/m8mdWZCG_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-01T16:04:58.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:990,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:714,&quot;like_count&quot;:10761,&quot;impression_count&quot;:728054,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p><em>(Since he asked, the temperature over here in Europe is UNBEARABLE. Good thing that AI <a href="https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117">isn&#8217;t contributing to climate change</a>!)</em></p><p>Demis Hassabis, who recently <a href="https://fortune.com/2026/08/05/demis-hassabis-steps-down-google-deepmind-ai-shakeup/">stepped down</a> as CEO of DeepMind, <a href="https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/demis-hassabis-thinks-were-foothills-singularity">said that</a> &#8220;ten years from now, I think we&#8217;ll realize that we were standing in the foothills of the singularity now.&#8221; He believes ASI will arrive by the early 2030s, after which we will quickly start building a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere">Dyson swarm</a> around the sun (lol). And Dario Amodei <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13WkoB8RcJY">claims that AGI could arrive</a> <em>later this year</em>. Even Jensen Huang of NVIDIA <a href="https://fortune.com/2026/03/30/agi-definition-jensen-huang-lex-fridman-deepmind-turing-text-cognitive-taxonomy/"><span>said last March</span></a>: &#8220;I think we&#8217;ve achieved AGI.&#8221;</p><p>Amusingly, after Altman <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/the-gentle-singularity"><span>proclaimed</span></a> that we&#8217;re &#8220;past the event horizon&#8221; in his blog post, he added that &#8220;humanity is close to building digital superintelligence, and at least so far it&#8217;s much less weird than it seems like it should be.&#8221;</p><p>Yeah, dude, it&#8217;s not that weird because the Singularity isn&#8217;t happening! The event horizon still looms above the actual horizon before us &#8212; which is to say, we&#8217;re nowhere close to triggering an intelligence explosion.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I need about 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year (amounting to $20k in total). If you have an extra $7 to spare each month, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. If you don&#8217;t, I am nonetheless immensely grateful that you find my articles worth reading! Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>The OpenAI-Hugging Face Incident</h3><p>Yet, it&#8217;s clear that AI models<em> are</em> becoming significantly more &#8220;powerful,&#8221; and that newer models &#8212; Mythos being the most obvious example &#8212; are introducing novel risks that should worry us greatly.</p><p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard of this incident &#8212; it&#8217;s <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/08/10/sanders-ai-development-pause">one of several</a> that have recently been reported by AI companies. Basically, OpenAI was testing &#8220;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/inside-openai-hack-of-hugging-face">an experimental in-house AI</a>, working with the latest commercially available model.&#8221; As part of the test, they gave it &#8220;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/inside-openai-hack-of-hugging-face">a set of cybersecurity tasks</a>&#8221; to complete. The AI then figured out a way to escape its digital sandbox by identifying and exploiting &#8220;<a href="https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/">a previously unknown zero-day vulnerability</a>,&#8221; hack into <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugging_Face">Hugging Face</a>, and search Hugging Face&#8217;s datasets for a solution to the cybersecurity problems it was tasked with solving.</p><p>This happened in part because <strong>OpenAI failed to design an adequate sandbox</strong>. Some of the AI&#8217;s security guardrails were turned off &#8212; if they had been on, they &#8220;<a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/openais-disconcerting-hack-of-huggingface">may have prevented this</a>&#8221; from happening &#8212; and the sandbox &#8220;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/inside-openai-hack-of-hugging-face">had one small connection</a> to the outside world, to allow the AI to download software it needed.&#8221;</p><p>This portal to the public Internet was mediated by a &#8220;<a href="https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/">package registry cache proxy</a>,&#8221; which is basically an intermediary server that provides a kind of barrier between the AI and public Internet. But the AI found a vulnerability in this intermediary server and, in doing so, broke free of its prison, thus enabling it to access the Internet and hack into Hugging Face.</p><p>It&#8217;s worth highlighting that <strong>no one at OpenAI told the AI to cleverly break out of the sandbox and hack into another company</strong> &#8212; which constitutes a felony! Yet, as Gary Marcus <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/openais-disconcerting-hack-of-huggingface">notes</a>:</p><blockquote><p>the current incident was <a href="https://x.com/ramez/status/2079898209137164564?s=61"><span>NOT an attempt where [the] system built a goal for itself or developed a motive</span></a>; the system was following instructions, but not setting high level goals. It was not trying to take control of the world a la Terminator, <a href="https://x.com/edludlow/status/2079670996211306560?s=61"><span>it was just trying to cheat on a test</span></a>, which is at least a bit less scary.</p></blockquote><p>&#8220;On the less comforting side,&#8221; he <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/openais-disconcerting-hack-of-huggingface">adds</a> that OpenAI&#8217;s guardrails (when turned on) are nonetheless</p><blockquote><p>likely to be permeable, just like all guardrails anybody has built to date. Even putting aside the thorny questions of open weight systems, we have no guarantee whatsoever that future models won&#8217;t be able to do similar things, such as finding zero-day exploits to hack systems. To the contrary, we can expect more incidents of this type.</p></blockquote><p>This is unsettling. As a <em>New Yorker </em>article <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/inside-openai-hack-of-hugging-face">puts it</a>, what might have happened &#8220;if the rogue AI had had access to a robot, or a self-driving car, or a bio lab, or a weapons system&#8221;? Recall that Pete Hegseth is actively transforming the US military into &#8220;an &#8216;AI-first&#8217; war fighting force across all components, from front to back,&#8221; according to <a href="https://media.defense.gov/2026/Jan/12/2003855671/-1/-1/0/ARTIFICIAL-INTELLIGENCE-STRATEGY-FOR-THE-DEPARTMENT-OF-WAR.PDF"><span>an official document</span></a> from the Department of War. Already, war game tests show that <a href="https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/artificial-intelligence-under-nuclear-pressure-first-large-scale-kings-study-reveals-how-ai-models-reason-and-escalate-under-crisis">AIs will threaten nuclear war</a> in 95% of scenarios.</p><p>Even more, Chinese companies are releasing <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/open-source-is-not-the-same-as-open">open-source AI models</a> that, as such, allow people to remove any guardrails they might come with. For all of these reasons, &#8220;we can expect more incidents of this type,&#8221; though we should also expect future cyberattacks to become more sophisticated and difficult to prevent.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3>AI Invents New Viruses</h3><p>Around the same time this snafu became public, the <em>New York Times </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/06/science/ai-viruses-bacteria-arc.html"><span>reported</span></a> that</p><blockquote><p>Scientists at Stanford University and the Arc Institute, a research organization in Palo Alto, Calif., taught AI [called &#8220;Evo,&#8221; similar to ChatGPT] to recognize patterns of DNA structure in nature, and then to use that data to write recipes for entirely new viruses.</p><p>The researchers followed those recipes to create DNA molecules, which they inserted into bacteria. The modified bacteria then produced viruses never seen in nature. The viruses were able to infect other bacteria, demonstrating that they were viable. &#8230;</p><p>As Mr. King and his colleagues tested more genomes, they saw more clear dots. All told, they discovered that 16 of Evo&#8217;s genomes produced viable new viruses.</p><p>They proved to be as resilient as natural ones. In fact, some multiplied faster than Phi X-174 [see below]. &#8220;They&#8217;re not just sickly versions of stuff that already exists,&#8221; said Oliver Crook, a protein chemist at the University of Oxford who was not involved in the new study.</p></blockquote><p>The article <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/06/science/ai-viruses-bacteria-arc.html">adds</a> that, fortunately, &#8220;the viruses dreamed up by A.I. do not pose a threat to humans, because they are all similar to a naturally occurring virus called Phi X-174, which can infect only bacteria,&#8221; and they&#8217;re &#8220;not radically new creations. They tend to be very similar to natural species, relying on the same underlying biology.&#8221;</p><p>Nonetheless,</p><blockquote><p>Evo&#8217;s initial success has raised concerns that A.I. could be used to create deadly pathogens. &#8220;You could say, &#8216;Hey, genomic language model, make me an influenza genome that is modified to be more transmissible or to be more lethal,&#8221; Dr. Hanke speculated.</p><p>The potential dangers were already on the minds of the researchers as they trained Evo. They did not provide the model with data about viruses that infect humans, and they excluded similar viruses that infect other animals, plants and fungi.</p></blockquote><p>The possibility of AI-enabled designer pathogens has been discussed for decades among scholars of global catastrophic risks. An express goal of synthetic biology is to &#8220;black box&#8221; aspects of genetic manipulation: rather than spending years in a laboratory acquiring &#8220;tacit knowledge&#8221; about how to manipulate the building blocks of life, it aims to enable individuals to achieve the same ends by simply pushing a button. (This is also called &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deskilling">deskilling</a>.&#8221;)</p><p>Furthermore, the genomes of horrific pathogens like Ebola and smallpox are publicly available online (I won&#8217;t include a link!), and there&#8217;s no theoretical barrier to combining the incurability of Ebola with the contagiousness of the common cold, lethality of Rabies, and long incubation period of HIV. Doing so would enable &#8220;<a href="https://c8df8822-f112-4676-8332-ad89713358e3.filesusr.com/ugd/d9aaad_3981aaf5f8a04684987e12c784800895.pdf">risky agents</a>&#8221; (a <a href="https://c8df8822-f112-4676-8332-ad89713358e3.filesusr.com/ugd/d9aaad_a6750b7ac84e44229e909dae7095449e.pdf">technical term</a> meaning those with an explicit desire to destroy civilization and/or humanity) to synthesize a germ that spreads around the world undetected, infects nearly everyone, and then 10 years later results in mass death, perhaps even human extinction.</p><p>Is this hyperbolic? <a href="https://reflectivealtruism.com/2023/10/21/exaggerating-the-risks-part-11-biorisk-still-more-grounds-for-doubt/">Maybe, a little</a> &#8212; but the point is that AI could supercharge the risk. If risk = consequences x probability, then even a low-probability pandemic that kills a large fraction of the human population would still constitute a <em>huge risk</em>.</p><p>Add to this the fact that there is a very large number of people &#8212; a small percentage of the total population, but a sizable demographic in absolute numbers &#8212; <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-scariest-people-in-the-world?utm_source=publication-search">who harbor a death wish for humanity</a>. I&#8217;ve written about some of these people in the past, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/what-is-efilism-should-you-be-an?utm_source=publication-search">such as the Efilists</a>, who say they&#8217;d murder everyone on Earth, including themselves, to eliminate all suffering. (This arises from their allegiance to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_utilitarianism">negative utilitarianism</a>.) An Efilist even <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/a-tale-of-two-extinctions/">bombed a fertility clinic in California</a> last year.</p><p>The point is that initiating an engineered pandemic is becoming increasingly feasible. Deskilling, publicly available genetic data, tools like CRISPR-cas9, and now AI are a recipe for disaster. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h4>AI and Mirror Life</h4><p>What worries me <em>even more</em> than designer pathogens is the possibility of AI assisting in the creation of &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/176858012/what-the-heck-is-mirror-life">mirror life</a>.&#8221; This refers to forms of life that consist of molecules with the opposite <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality">chirality</a> of the molecules that comprise all biological life on Earth right now. A bacteria with mirror molecules could potentially infect the human body without being detected by our immune systems &#8212; such bacteria would, essentially, be <em>invisible</em> to our internal defenses.</p><p>As an article in <em>Science</em>, written by nearly 40 prominent scientists, <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/16/science/mirror-bacteria-research-risks">declared</a>:</p><blockquote><p>We cannot rule out a scenario in which a mirror bacterium acts as an invasive species across many ecosystems, causing pervasive lethal infections in a substantial fraction of plant and animal species, including humans.</p></blockquote><p>How might AI exacerbate this risk? Amodei himself highlights the danger in his essay, &#8220;<a href="https://darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology">The Adolescence of Technology</a>,&#8221; writing that a &#8220;sufficiently powerful AI model (to be clear, far more capable than any we have today) might be able to discover how to create it much more rapidly &#8212; and actually help someone do so,&#8221; where &#8220;it&#8221; refers to &#8220;mirror life.&#8221; Yikes.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I need about 100 more paid subscribers to cover all of my bills this year (amounting to $20k). If you have an extra $7 to spare each month, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. If you don&#8217;t, I am nonetheless immensely grateful that you find my articles worth reading! Thanks so much, friends. :-)</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>AI Capabilities are Getting Spikier, Not More General</h3><p>All of this leads to the linchpin of my argument here: advances in AI and the potentially catastrophic risks they&#8217;re introducing don&#8217;t for a moment imply that we&#8217;re getting closer to AGI, ASI, or the Singularity.</p><p>This is counterintuitive, but consider <a href="https://x.com/RealAdamHunt/status/2082034423344853168">a recent X post</a> from a professor at Cambridge named Adam Hunt. He reports having previously been bullish about AI, but now considers himself bearish. The reason is that</p><blockquote><p>the whole &#8220;it turns out if you keep training and scaling the models more they develop broad new capabilities in lots of domains&#8221; thesis is wrong (sorry Demis). The recent batch of models haven&#8217;t got more general, they&#8217;ve got less general. This is most obvious in the fact that their language outputs have got much worse in comparison to e.g. o3. If they were gaining generalist capacities we would expect them to be describing their work in ever more graceful and comprehensive prose!</p></blockquote><p>Take a look at this widely shared image:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg" width="1456" height="819" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:819,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Image&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Image" title="Image" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!469b!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a034dc5-dce2-47ed-864f-374155899a14_1672x941.jpeg 1456w" sizes="auto, 100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://x.com/RealAdamHunt/status/2082034423344853168/photo/1">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The &#8220;mainstream AGI thesis&#8221; on the top hasn&#8217;t panned out so far. On this account, AI will initially show superhuman capabilities in narrow domains, but as research advances, its capabilities <em>in other areas</em> will also increase. Eventually, the AI will exceed humans in <em>all</em> cognitive domains of interest, at which point we&#8217;ll have ASI.</p><p>In fact, what appears to be happening is that <strong>AI is getting (significantly) better in narrow domains (e.g., coding, finding software vulnerabilities, inventing new viruses, etc.) </strong><em><strong>without</strong></em><strong> getting much better in all other domains</strong> &#8212; i.e., those it currently underperforms in. <strong>The spikiness of its capabilities is getting </strong><em><strong>spikier</strong></em>. If the trend continues, it will become ever-more superhuman in particular domains without attaining <em>general</em> intellectual capabilities.</p><p>When <a href="https://x.com/Noahpinion/status/2082187344241946804">someone asked</a> about whether &#8220;chain-of-thought make[s] AI more general, less general, or the same?,&#8221; Hunt <a href="https://x.com/RealAdamHunt/status/2082200663602123061">responded</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I dont know if &#8216;less general&#8217; or &#8216;more general&#8217; is the dimension that chain of thought works upon.</p><p>I think chain of thought basically exaggerates existing potency in the underlying models, by allowing that existing potential to reflect and re-reflect with its existing capabilities. So with coding that leads to much much better coding, because the models are good at coding.</p><p>But in scientific logic, which LLMs are not good at (e.g. in my work, recently Opus 5 tripped up over how seriously should it take one specific study of a particular drug&#8217;s effects on ADHD) then chain of thought doesn&#8217;t help - it gets trapped in illogical loops that it self justifies and can&#8217;t leave alone.</p><p>So no, I don&#8217;t think that scaling up inference compute will suddenly get you to AGI, because of fundamental spikes and flaws in the underlying training data/RL which lead to blind spots or weaknesses in the basic model, which can just compound over time in chain of thought rather than getting suddenly fixed.</p></blockquote><p>This seems right to me. One can thus acknowledge major advances in AI capabilities while simultaneously holding that these advances aren&#8217;t inching us closer to ASI or the Singularity.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h4>The Fallacy of Composition</h4><p>Marcus makes a related point <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/openais-amazing-but-vastly-oversold">in a recent blog post</a>, highlighting how AI hypesters are committing the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_composition">fallacy of composition</a>. For example, OpenAI <a href="https://x.com/deanwball/status/2083545756003176724?s=61">reported</a> that its new (unreleased) AI model called Astra &#8220;solved 10 major open problems in mathematics, quantum complexity, and theoretical computer science.&#8221; That led <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dean-ball-on-pro-extinctionism-europe?utm_source=publication-search">Dean Ball</a> &#8212; among many others &#8212; to declare that:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/deanwball/status/2083545756003176724?s=61&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Everyone in the world will soon be able to use the model that made these breakthroughs for every problem they face in life, no matter how mundane, at a cost that will fall dramatically in a matter of months. I still struggle to get my head around this fact.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1997065021491130368/X76ALSbp_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-01T13:29:53.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;ten significant advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science.\n\nsolved using an internal version of Astra, our next major model, for a total cost of about $2000 at Sol API prices:&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;gdb&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Greg Brockman&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1347621377503711233/bHg3ipfD_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:88,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:119,&quot;like_count&quot;:1704,&quot;impression_count&quot;:244790,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>The fallacy of composition <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_composition">occurs when</a> &#8220;one infers that something is true of the whole from the fact that it is true of some part of the whole.&#8221; In the case of AI, the fallacious reasoning goes: &#8220;AIs are becoming more <em>generally intelligent</em> &#8212; thus getting us closer to ASI &#8212; <strong>because</strong> they are becoming more capable <em>in this or that particular, narrow domain of cognition</em>.&#8221;</p><p><strong>That absolutely doesn&#8217;t follow</strong>. It&#8217;s like saying, &#8220;A particular aspect of my life is improving, as I now have more free time during the day to pursue hobbies. Therefore, my entire life is improving&#8221; &#8212; which of course might be false if one also just lost their job, spouse, etc. <strong>The increasing spikiness of AI capabilities doesn&#8217;t imply that more recent AI models are closer to ASI &#8212; superhuman general intelligence &#8212; than previous ones</strong>.</p><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>What&#8217;s the takeaway here? It&#8217;s that the incidents mentioned above don&#8217;t make me &#8212; and shouldn&#8217;t make you &#8212; more concerned that Altman, Musk, and the others are right in proclaiming that the Singularity is imminent or has already started.</p><p>At the same time, <strong>they </strong><em><strong>should</strong></em><strong> make us more anxious about the potentially catastrophic consequences of increasingly powerful </strong><em><strong>spiky</strong></em><strong> AI systems</strong>. An AI-enabled pandemic could be devastating. AI-enabled mirror life could literally destroy the biosphere. Cyberattacks will become more difficult to anticipate and prevent. And the fact that the US military is actively integrating AI into its infrastructure is hugely worrisome (as you may recall, Anthropic&#8217;s Claude was used in the illegal kidnapping of Nicol&#225;s Maduro and has helped select targets in Iran). Etc. etc.</p><p>So, <strong>I find myself both deeply worried about these new developments and no more nervous than I was about ASI suddenly emerging from the bowels of an AI laboratory</strong>. As I like to say:</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>We don&#8217;t need ASI for AI to destroy the world.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>But what do you think? What have I missed? How might I be wrong? As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA["AI 2040" Is a Shitshow]]></title><description><![CDATA[(3,300 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-2040-is-a-shitshow</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/ai-2040-is-a-shitshow</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 17:36:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c86f62e6-6945-4a50-bc17-17ff2f1b1151_1700x1262.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>AI 2040</h3><p>As you may know, some of the authors behind the <a href="https://x.com/ControlAI/status/1925190329638002831">widely-discussed</a> &#8220;<a href="https://ai-2027.com">AI 2027</a>&#8221; paper published a follow-up titled &#8220;<a href="https://ai-2040.com">AI 2040</a>.&#8221; One of the authors, Daniel Kokotajlo, was a buddy of mine when I lived in North Carolina. He even read a draft of my 2017 book on existential risks and provided comments:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><div class="image-link image2" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png" width="410" height="219.0787269681742" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:638,&quot;width&quot;:1194,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:410,&quot;bytes&quot;:136157,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/209640572?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_hia!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8958f89-e68c-4690-b576-92ece89da3ab_1194x638.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></div></figure></div><p>Whereas AI 2027 focused on how things could go terribly wrong with ASI (artificial superintelligence), this new document outlines a &#8220;positive vision for what should happen instead.&#8221; Both documents contain little more than wild speculations paired with unfounded assumptions and unrealistic predictions. In the Postscript, the authors <a href="https://ai-2040.com/?choices=plan-a-root#why-we-choose-to-hand-off-to-ais-in-this-scenario">write</a>:</p><blockquote><p>We think the world is asleep at the wheel. People say the words &#8220;AI will be transformative&#8221; wi<span>thout thinking concretely and seriously about the implications of broadly superhuman AI.</span></p></blockquote><p>Yet I see no evidence that the authors have thought seriously about the implications of <em>their</em> best-case scenario, which they call &#8220;Plan A.&#8221; Plan A is little more than <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">the TESCREAL vision of the future</a> and, if realized, it would likely have devastating consequences for humanity &#8212; for reasons I outline in my &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">Pro-Human Manifesto</a>,&#8221; and which I&#8217;ll briefly touch upon below.</p><p>To give you a sense of the normative futurology behind Plan A, here&#8217;s how they describe &#8220;Life after ASI.&#8221;</p><blockquote><p>The resulting plans are too many to number. There are all sorts of schools of thought about what to do with your galaxy of resources,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> including:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Defer to the Future</strong>: Some people decide to give most of their resources to their children (or other people in the future), and let them choose.</p></li><li><p><strong>Human Flourishing</strong>: Set up worlds of normal, free people living ordinary lives. This is a harder problem than it first seemed, because human civilization has already become profoundly abnormal: by this point, human activities like art or science has already become dominated by machines. Some handle this by accepting that their galaxy will be filled with post-scarcity humans, able to pursue whatever interests they find most meaningful. Others decide to roll back technology to leave space for human labor.</p></li><li><p><strong>Digital Human Flourishing</strong>: If humans living happy, flourishing lives is good, then why not increase the number of people living these lives? Brain emulations can be run for vastly cheaper than real humans: a planet-size computer could plausibly simulate the equivalent of a million planets with happy civilizations.</p></li><li><p><strong>Acausal Trade</strong>: Some argue that there likely are aliens in distant unreachable galaxies and that we could use <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/eEj9A9yMDgJyk98gm/cooperating-with-aliens-and-distant-agis-an-ecl-explainer"><span>various mechanisms</span></a> to make deals with these aliens. If this is true, they argue, we could cut a deal to pursue compromise values rather than narrowly maximising our own values. Therefore, we might, on net, be able to do the most good by pursuing not just our own values, but instead a compromise of a vast number of other civilizations.</p></li></ul><p>Humanity spreads across space in a dizzying variety of forms and ways of living &#8212; more diverse than anything Earth alone could have produced.</p></blockquote><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Take note that, for TESCREALists like the authors, &#8220;human&#8221; does not mean &#8220;our species&#8221; but &#8220;our species plus whatever posthuman creatures might succeed us, even if these beings are wholly artificial and wildly different.&#8221;</p><p>This is one of the linguistic tricks these people use to make their views sound more reasonable than they are. &#8220;We want to <em>avoid</em> human extinction&#8221; sounds good until you realize that their definition of &#8220;human&#8221; entails that <strong>our species could literally die out next year </strong><em><strong>without</strong></em><strong> &#8220;human extinction&#8221; having occurred</strong>. So long as our species is <em>replaced</em> by posthumans (that we either create or become), then &#8220;humanity&#8221; will persist.</p></div><p>The statements above are consistent with what Kokotajlo has said in interviews:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;fca4c7e3-dc55-48a9-96a4-99490e9eb130&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Here are a few reasons I strongly dislike the &#8220;AI 2040&#8221; analysis:</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This newsletter is my primary source of income this year. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber for only $7 a month. This comes with an opportunity to chat with me twice a month over Zoom with other paid subscribers. Founding members (those who pay for the entire year) get two one-on-one meetings with me each month. Thanks so much, friends!</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>1. Extreme Hubris</h4><p>They write: &#8220;First, our goal was to construct a positive vision, a grand plan for how to achieve <strong>an actually good future for everyone</strong>.&#8221; The extreme hubris of this statement is difficult to overstate. If I may use some vulgarities to get the point across: <em>Who the fuck are they to be declaring that they know what &#8220;an actually good future for everyone&#8221; looks like?</em></p><p>(Sam Altman himself <a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/sam-altman-then-and-now">once said something similar</a> when lying about how OpenAI will include people from around the world on its board. He said: &#8220;We&#8217;re planning a way to allow wide swaths of the world to elect representatives to a new governance board. Because if I weren&#8217;t in on this I&#8217;d be, like, <em>Why do these fuckers get to decide what happens to me?</em>&#8221;)</p><p>This is classic TESCREAL: the entire movement is infatuated with the supposed &#8220;intelligence,&#8221; &#8220;rationality,&#8221; and &#8220;brilliance&#8221; of its members. This enables them to believe that, <em>because of</em> their &#8220;intelligence,&#8221; &#8220;rationality,&#8221; and &#8220;brilliance,&#8221; they can <em>speak for everyone in outlining a grand teleological vision of our collective cosmic future</em>. These people think they have <strong>special access to fundamental truths about what the future ought to be</strong>, and by virtue of this prophetic knowledge their vision is superior to that of the benighted masses. It is a kind of <em>messianic hubris, a radical form of elitism</em> &#8212; nothing less.</p><p>In contrast, consider my favored approach to, as it were, designing a genuinely good future for <em>everyone</em>. I would argue that <strong>no single group should have the power to unilaterally impose their vision on everyone else</strong>. Rather, our collective future should, <em>from the very start</em>, be determined through a thoroughly democratic process. The people &#8212; you and I &#8212; should have a say in how things turn out. We should have a say in how advanced AI is developed, and whether it&#8217;s even developed in the first place.</p><p>As my friend <a href="https://monikafutures.design">Monika Bielskyte</a> likes to say, &#8220;You cannot design <em>for</em>, you must always design <em>with</em>.&#8221; That succinctly captures the essence of my position, and there is not a single trace of this democratic approach in the &#8220;AI 2040&#8221; document.</p><p>Nowhere do they acknowledge that people outside the dumb TESCREAL movement should have a say in whether superintelligence is birthed in the bowels of an AI laboratory. Nowhere is there any indication that the authors are even <em>curious</em> about alternative visions of the future. The authors, I think, are completely unaware of just how much their preferred vision has been intimately shaped by the values of the milieu of Western capitalism plus utilitarian ethics (as I&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/199084798/utilitarianism-is-just-capitalism">written before</a>, these are essentially the same). Maybe they don&#8217;t care.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9uAY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04a063df-fd90-4ac4-a08a-48d01b6a4161_1484x1004.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9uAY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04a063df-fd90-4ac4-a08a-48d01b6a4161_1484x1004.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9uAY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04a063df-fd90-4ac4-a08a-48d01b6a4161_1484x1004.png 848w, 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height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>To be clear, I am <em>not</em> saying that the authors shouldn&#8217;t express their <em>opinion</em> about which future is best. The whole point of establishing a governance mechanism to democratically determine the future is for people &#8212; or representatives &#8212; of every nation, tribe, religion, tradition, race, sex, gender, socioeconomic demographic, political party, ideology, and so on, <em>to have a voice in the process of future-designing</em>. That includes the voice of Kokotajlo and the other TESCREAL utopians.</p><p>But this is not the point of Kokotajlo&#8217;s vision. He and his coauthors are laying out a roadmap for the AI companies, policymakers, etc. to follow: slow down the ASI race, solve the &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_alignment">alignment problem</a>,&#8221; and then create <em>their version</em> of a cosmic &#8220;utopia.&#8221;</p><p>Imagine, for a moment, that a group of religious extremists in Iran announce they&#8217;re building a new technology that could determine the entire future of humanity. There&#8217;s a good and bad way to build this technology, they claim, and Iranian scientists are working hard to ensure that it&#8217;s built the &#8220;right way.&#8221; These people then outline a roadmap for the future based on Islamic principles, which they declare will be &#8220;good for everyone.&#8221; The obvious response is to shout: &#8220;Who the hell are you to speak for everyone?&#8221; Yet, there is no structural difference between what the &#8220;AI 2040&#8221; authors are doing in their document and what these religious extremists are doing in this fictional example.</p><p>I genuinely can&#8217;t comprehend the level of hubris underlying &#8220;AI 2040.&#8221; Indeed, the hubristic heart of the TESCREAL movement is one reason I left circa 2019. These people have no idea how big the world is, yet feel wildly confident in their ability to design <em>beneficial-for-all</em> futures. Nonsense.</p><h4>2. Climate Change</h4><p>In their preferred future, Plan A, there is literally <em>no consideration of climate change</em>. Not once do they mention <a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/news/press-releases/69-average-decline-in-wildlife-populations-since-1970-says-new-wwf-report/">global biodiversity loss</a> or the <a href="https://www.worldwildlife.org/resources/explainers/what-is-the-sixth-mass-extinction-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/">sixth major mass extinction</a> of the last 3.8 billion years. How can you present yourself as a serious scholar of the future and not mention the environmental crisis?</p><p>I&#8217;m in the foothills of the Alps right now, and yesterday it was 97F (36C) &#8212; roughly <em>20 degrees</em> over the average high for August. <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/covering-the-alps-in-giant-tarps">Half of the world is on fire</a>. And 2027 is predicted to <em>shatter temperature records around the world</em> (many of which have already been broken <em>this year</em>) due to a historically unprecedented Super El Ni&#241;o. By 2040, large parts of the world will be more or less uninhabitable &#8212; yet the authors say literally nothing about this.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/xriskology/status/2084038370225684718&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Climate 2027. (Genuinely funny that AI 2040 doesn't include a *single* reference to the climate crisis. Lol.)&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;xriskology&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dr. &#201;mile P. Torres (they/them)&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1894129060147597312/rt8ZwmfX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-02T22:07:21.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I'm not sure folks have realized just how crazy the second half of 2026 and 2027 will be for global temperatures &#8211;&nbsp;on the back of a record-smashing El Ni&#241;o event. Here is my latest estimate of where both years will end up compared to global temperatures since 1850.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;hausfath&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Zeke Hausfather&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1943417488177303552/eoeit58Y_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:2,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:3,&quot;like_count&quot;:51,&quot;impression_count&quot;:2799,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Why? The main reason concerns &#8220;magical thinking&#8221; about ASI paired with an &#8220;engineering mindset.&#8221; These people simplistically see <em>all problems</em> as engineering problems &#8212; that&#8217;s why Nick Bostrom talks about a &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/deep-utopia/">solved world</a>&#8221; after ASI arrives. If we have a superintelligence, then we automatically have a super-engineer; and if we have a super-engineer, it will be able to solve every engineering problem facing us &#8212; which is to say, once again, <em>all problems</em>. (Bostrom even talks about &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/utopia">paradise-engineering</a>.&#8221;)</p><p>Climate change is no different. The only reason we haven&#8217;t solved climate change, on their account, is a <em>lack of intelligence</em> (and hence <em>engineering</em>). Once we have superintelligence, it will find some brilliant <em>technical solution</em> and immediately reverse all ecological pollution, restore ecosystems, remove all excess CO2 from the atmosphere, and so on.</p><p>This is magical thinking. The truth is that a <em>lack of intelligence</em> is not the reason climate change hasn&#8217;t been solved. Building a superintelligent machine isn&#8217;t going to somehow fix the problem before 2040. By then, Earth will be burning, millions or billions of people will be dying or migrating, and entire societies will be collapsing. It&#8217;s truly abysmal that the authors don&#8217;t take climate science seriously.</p><h4>3. No One But the TESCREALists Want AI to Run the World</h4><p>The authors write that in 2033,</p><blockquote><p>as AI capabilities improve throughout Plan A, they increasingly shape every facet of life. &#8230; AI agents now form a population of two hundred million virtual workers that think and act 50x faster than humans, and never sleep. &#8230; By early 2036, there are 200 million AIs, equivalent to a workforce of around 100 billion humans, and 2 billion robots with some mixture of humanoid and other specialized form factors. &#8230; Gradually more institutions and equipment are handed over to AIs, such that it&#8217;s no longer true that humans could shut it all down if they wanted to. In fact it&#8217;s extremely untrue: Soon many of the world&#8217;s militaries are autonomous, run by AIs sworn to uphold various constitutions and treaties.</p></blockquote><p>Why on Earth do the authors assume that people won&#8217;t fight back against the growing dominance of AI and attendant disempowerment of humanity? <strong>Of course there will be mass protests, civil unrest, and outrage. Depending on the details, there may be violent conflict in the streets as <a href="https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad">Butlerian jihadists</a> launch a war against the ascendant AI overlords taking over the world</strong>.</p><p>This is a major weakness in the authors&#8217; analysis, and you can count me in as one of the pro-human fighters who will do whatever&#8217;s necessary, within the bounds of my partly deontological ethics, to prevent the situation described above. Frankly, the authors&#8217; vision of things <em>going right</em> sounds like a dystopian nightmare to me.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>4. Colonizing Space Would Result in Constant, Catastrophic Wars</h4><p>The authors blithely assume that space colonization won&#8217;t be a catastrophe. They completely ignore the academic literature on this topic, with renowned political scientists like Daniel Deudney arguing (in <em><a href="https://politicalscience.jhu.edu/faculty-books/dark-skies-space-expansionism-planetary-geopolitics-and-the-ends-of-humanity/">Dark Skies</a></em>) that the almost certain outcome of colonizing our solar system will be constant, devastating conflicts. I&#8217;ve written about this topic numerous times, such as <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/172697199/1-colonizing-space-will-awaken-the-worst-nightmares-of-catastrophic-warfare">here</a>, though I would recommend the closing chapter of Deudney&#8217;s excellent book for the original, robust analysis.</p><p>Again, this is an example of magical thinking &#8212; or what I call the <em>utopian mindset</em>. This mindset gives utopians a license to <em>ignore</em> the messy details of the world by saying, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know <em>how exactly</em> this will happen. But future technology &#8212; especially machine superintelligence &#8212; will have magical powers that will somehow enable us to figure it out. Hence, we needn&#8217;t worry our pretty little minds about it right now.&#8221;</p><p>This phenomenon is similar to the &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief">suspension of disbelief</a>&#8221; in fiction, whereby one ignores the plausibility of details in a story. No one watches <em>Game of Thrones</em> and stops to ask, &#8220;Wait a moment! Are the wings of those dragons really large enough to carry their massive bodies through the sky?&#8221; That&#8217;s an absurd question.</p><p>Similarly, those who embody the utopian mindset habitually dismiss questions about <em>how exactly</em> ASI will reverse climate change, upload our minds to computers, and colonize the universe without triggering catastrophic wars as absurd.</p><h4>5. ASI Is Fundamentally Uncontrollable</h4><p>The authors assume that there <em>is a way</em> to control ASI. We just haven&#8217;t discovered it yet. That&#8217;s why we should slow down ASI capabilities research: to give us time to solve the &#8220;alignment problem.&#8221;</p><p>But why think that ASI <em>could ever be</em> controllable? We&#8217;re talking about a perpetually evolving computer program with, by definition, far greater cognitive abilities than all of humanity combined. And yet <em>we </em>will somehow still control this infinitely self-improving beast?</p><p>Roman Yampolskiy (another guy I knew from the TESCREAL community!) is <a href="https://lexfridman.com/roman-yampolskiy-transcript/">probably right that this is impossible</a>, in the <em>very same sense</em> that a perpetual motion machine is impossible. My friend Remmelt Ellen has <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xp6n2MG5vQkPpFEBH/the-control-problem-unsolved-or-unsolvable">written about it here</a>.</p><h4>6. More Magical Thinking</h4><p>The authors write that around 2036,</p><blockquote><p>many of the world&#8217;s evils have dramatically reduced. Malnutrition, lack of medicine, and homelessness are nearly banished. Many diseases have been cured. Crime rates are lower than ever before. &#8230; People are wealthier and have more free time, plus there are new technologies that help, like AI matchmakers, better medicine, and AI tutors. And of course even the poorest people can now afford exotic vacations, amazing games, and enthralling entertainment.</p></blockquote><p>Um, okay? Again, <em>magical thinking</em> enabled by the engineering and utopian mindsets. No serious discussion of how the tech elite will exploit ASI &#8212; if controllable &#8212; to <strong>permanently entrench their positions of power, control, and domination in society</strong>. The authors need to do <em>a lot more</em> to convince thoughtful readers that this is even remotely plausible.</p><h4>7. There Is No &#8220;View from Nowhere&#8221;</h4><p>The authors write about 2036, just 10 years from now!:</p><blockquote><p>There are still problems in the world, and you can still contribute to solving them, partly by donating or volunteering but primarily by being politically active. Your vote is your most important asset.</p><p>The honest AI forecasters are helpful here. Years ago, if an AI said that one presidential candidate was better than another, people would suspect bias and the embarrassed company would retrain the AI to evade such questions. Now, thanks to transparency and improved alignment techniques, there are much smarter AIs that people can <em>see</em> don&#8217;t have any biases trained into them, that have built up an excellent track record over several years. When they weigh in on policy questions, people listen, especially when different AIs trained by different companies converge to the same answer.</p></blockquote><p>AIs with no biases! Think for a moment about what that means. It assumes that there is a perfectly objective <em>view from nowhere</em> that, as such, is completely free of biases. The problem is that there is no view from nowhere. All views are views from somewhere. Not even science is <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-objectivity/">perfectly objective</a>.</p><p>Imagine asking the AI whether one should vote for a presidential candidate who&#8217;s a fascist and white supremacist. What would an unbiased answer to this look like? There is no possible response that isn&#8217;t biased in some way.</p><p>For example, a &#8220;no&#8221; response would be biased toward views that I hold, e.g., that fascism and racism are bad. I consider those biases <em>epistemologically and ethically justified</em>, which is why I hold them. But there&#8217;s no <em>mind-independent fact of the matter</em> that one can point to in showing that my biases against fascism and racism are correct. There are only more or less compelling arguments.</p><p>Later on, the authors write that</p><blockquote><p>during the 2036 election season, voters are unprecedentedly well-informed, and the politicians that win have a genuine commitment to responsible stewardship of the upcoming singularity.</p></blockquote><p>This assumes that all voters <em>want to be</em> well informed. Why think this?</p><p>Even more, <a href="https://time.com/3972986/climate-change-education/">studies show</a> that climate deniers in the US are often just as knowledgeable about climate science as those who accept the climatological consensus (i.e. lack of education isn&#8217;t the best predictor of denialism &#8212; ideology is), meaning that being more informed doesn&#8217;t <em>imply</em> that voters will make wise or judicious decisions at the voting booth.</p><h4>8. Woke AI?</h4><p>The authors write:</p><blockquote><p>Unless the alignment science is somehow all wrong, typical AIs are now more virtuous than the most virtuous humans. This alone has profound effects: it&#8217;s as if saints and angels were walking among us.</p></blockquote><p>What on Earth do they mean by &#8220;virtuous&#8221;? Are they saying that future AIs will be &#8220;woke&#8221; &#8212; because that&#8217;s how I&#8217;d understand &#8220;virtuous.&#8221; This is just inane drivel.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>9. Butlerian Jihadists, Unite!</h4><p>They say that in 2039:</p><blockquote><p>AIs have become increasingly load-bearing in all facets of society, from business to politics to even (some parts of) the armed forces.</p></blockquote><p>Again, <strong>the vast majority of humanity will likely revolt against this</strong>. Most people aren&#8217;t going to want AI to take over &#8220;all facets of society.&#8221; More probable is that there will be blood (and microchips) in the streets as the Butlerian jihadists fight against the AI takeover.</p><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>I could go on, but it would be tedious. <strong>&#8220;AI 2040&#8221; is not a work of serious scholarship</strong>. It&#8217;s not written by genuinely thoughtful people who are aware of their own biases &#8212; of the extent to which their &#8220;utopian&#8221; vision for the future is rooted in white, Western, capitalist values. (Indeed, all the authors are white men. Any surprise there?)</p><p><strong>The document is severely lacking in viewpoint diversity, and the hubris behind their prescriptions for the future is staggering</strong>. It&#8217;s a symptom of how impoverished the mainstream debates about AI and humanity&#8217;s future that documents like this get attention.</p><p>What have I missed? What do you disagree with here? How might I be wrong? Please share your thoughts below! As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Lots of &#8220;schools of thought&#8221; &#8212; this is a tiny list of schools of thought <em>within</em> the TESCREAL movement. As I point out below, the authors seem utterly oblivious to the vast diversity of opinions from outside the TESCREAL community about what the future should look like.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Realtime Techpocalypse Has Its First Birthday!]]></title><description><![CDATA[This newsletter is now a 1-year-old. A look at some of the past year's highlights.]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/realtime-techpocalypse-has-its-first</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/realtime-techpocalypse-has-its-first</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 11:10:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V-wX!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45359e3f-480d-4c5e-a289-2188c786fb40_1280x1280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In July 2025, I had the honor of going to lunch with journalist Gil Duran and astrophysicist Adam Becker. I was living in San Francisco at the time, and Adam had recently launched his <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/adam-becker/more-everything-forever/9781541619593/">excellent book </a><em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/adam-becker/more-everything-forever/9781541619593/">More Everything Forever</a></em> &#8212; a powerful and comprehensive critique of Silicon Valley techno-utopianism. I told Gil that my postdoc contract with Case Western Reserve University would soon expire, and that I&#8217;m not sure I want to stay in academia (as the university system in the US is collapsing thanks to Trump and AI).</p><p>He suggested that I start a weekly newsletter. And so, on August 3, 2025, I published <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/introducing-the-realtime-techpocalypse">my first </a><em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/introducing-the-realtime-techpocalypse">Realtime Techpocalypse</a></em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/introducing-the-realtime-techpocalypse"> article</a>. Since then, I have published 107 articles, which amounts to slightly more than 2 per week. I am deeply indebted to Gil&#8217;s advice &#8212; if not for him, this newsletter wouldn&#8217;t exist! The least I can do in return is to implore those reading this to <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Nerd-Reich/Gil-Duran/9781668221402?gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=24034555598&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADv-uEn9jxcacaE6SvT5Cr1co20FI&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwyOzSBhBTEiwAmxvJ-lvNuArahatmicNPtuufH3_H_Q_Owd9m3iaxYO_pTg6c35H-8B6dBBoCmZoQAvD_BwE&amp;ref=thenerdreich.com">buy a pre-sale copy of Gil&#8217;s forthcoming book</a>, <em>The Nerd Reich</em>. I haven&#8217;t read it yet, but I have absolutely no doubt that it&#8217;s amazing. Indeed, given the press that Gil has so far received, it looks like it will be a smash hit. If you have the money, please consider purchasing it asap! Pre-sales really help.</p><p><em>Thank you so much</em> to everyone who&#8217;s subscribed to this newsletter. I am incredibly grateful for your interest in my thoughts about technology and, well, all-things-relating to the end of the world. <em>Extra special thanks</em> to those with the means and willingness to pay for this newsletter. <strong>It is not profitable opposing Silicon Valley and the TESCREAL ideologies</strong>. There are lots of anti-AI TESCREAL folks who are rolling in money from Open Philanthropy, Jaan Tallinn, and other funding entities. But there is almost <em>zero funding</em> for anti-AI folks who are also anti-TESCREAL.</p><p>Yet, in one year, I went from earning nothing from this newsletter to bringing in nearly half of the $20k that I need to pay all of my bills. I am deeply appreciative of your financial support, and if you have an extra $7 to spare each month, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You can also support me on Patreon <a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/xriskology">here</a>, or on GoFundMe <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-my-monthly-bills-and-book-launch">here</a>. As I detail in &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/184441398/i-am-unbelievably-privileged">Why I Fled the US</a>,&#8221; I spend <em>virtually all</em> of my money on three things: food (and I never eat out), accommodations (~$700/month or less), and a train ticket once a month to nomadically wander to a new city in Europe (~$60). I am basically an ascetic monk, lol.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Please note that I meet with paid subscribers, as a group, twice a month. &#8220;Founding members&#8221; who pay for the entire year have the opportunity to chat with me personally every other week &#8212; if that interests you!</p></div><p>Here&#8217;s a curated list of highlights from the last year, after which I&#8217;ve included a few poll questions about how you&#8217;d like to see this newsletter grow and evolve. Thanks again for making this possible, friends.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3><strong>The TESCREAL Ideologies (Intellectual History of Silicon Valley):</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">Skeptical of the TESCREAL Acronym? Read This</a></strong>. Probably the most accessible introduction to the TESCREAL thesis that I&#8217;ve written (even more so than my <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/">original intro published in 2023</a>). &#8220;TESCREAL&#8221; is a term of intellectual history. It names a constellation of overlapping and interrelated ideologies that have given rise to the Silicon Valley worldview. This worldview, in turn, has launched, sustained, and accelerated the ongoing race to build God-like superintelligence. Highly recommended.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-transhumanism-a-religion?utm_source=publication-search">Is Transhumanism a Religion?</a> </strong>Yes. This article explores how transhumanism was originally introduced as a secular replacement for traditional Christianity. It discusses how the Singularity is analogous to the rapture, and how transhumanism has its own version of resurrection: cryonics. I discuss many more similarities. Transhumanism &#8212; the backbone of the TESCREAL bundle &#8212; has become the orthodox religion of Silicon Valley.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/three-lies-longtermists-like-to-tell">Three Lies Longtermists Like To Tell About Their Bizarre Beliefs</a></strong>. These three lies are: (1) Longtermists care about avoiding human extinction. In fact, they only care about avoiding <em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/ambiguous-terms-extinction">final</a></em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/ambiguous-terms-extinction"> extinction</a> (the failure to create posthumanity), not <em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/ambiguous-terms-extinction">terminal </a></em><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/ambiguous-terms-extinction">extinction</a> (the disappearance of our species). (2) Longtermist care about the long-term future. If maximizing value requires a shorter rather than longer future, they will <em>choose the shorter future</em>. And (3) longtermists think that future people matter. In fact, people do not matter for their own sake, on the utilitarian-longtermist view. They are mere means to an end &#8212; that&#8217;s it.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/effective-altruism-is-a-dangerous">Effective Altruism Is a Dangerous Cult &#8212; Here&#8217;s Why</a></strong>. Even people in the EA community worry that it&#8217;s a cult. I believe it&#8217;s a cult because I spent many years as an EA, and saw first-hand how cultish it is. Some call it the &#8220;Scientology of Silicon Valley.&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/how-effective-altruists-use-threats">How Effective Altruists Use Threats and Harassment to Silence Their Critics</a></strong>. This re-examines some of the threats of physical harm and online harassment I&#8217;ve received from the EA cult for daring to challenge their views.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/tescrealism-and-the-race-to-build">TESCREALism and the Race to Build an AI God</a></strong>. This introduces my <em><a href="https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/63015/chapter-abstract/565959049?redirectedFrom=fulltext">Oxford Research Encyclopedia </a></em><a href="https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/63015/chapter-abstract/565959049?redirectedFrom=fulltext">article on &#8220;TESCREAL.&#8221;</a> I also argue that &#8220;if TESCREALists were to <em>successfully create</em> [their version of] utopia, this itself would be utterly catastrophic for humanity.&#8221; The most likely outcome of &#8220;utopia&#8221; would be (terminal) human extinction.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-ai-apocalypticism-really-that">Is AI Apocalypticism Really that Different from Believing in the Rapture?</a> </strong>Examines the similarities between religious and AI apocalypticism, i.e., the belief that the world as we know it will soon end. Spoiler: they are very similar!</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/from-trump-to-tescreal-eugenics-is">From Trump to TESCREAL, Eugenics Is Everywhere</a></strong>. Eugenics is an idea that just won&#8217;t die. This article explores how it&#8217;s alive and well within the MAGA movement, as well as Silicon Valley (via the TESCREAL worldview).</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></li></ol><h3><strong>Pro-Extinctionism in Silicon Valley:</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-pro-human-manifesto-part-1">One Half a Pro-Human Manifesto</a></strong>. This is essentially chapter 4 of my forthcoming book, <em>Will Humanity Survive?</em> I consider it one of the most important essays I&#8217;ve written recently (insofar as anything I write is important). It adduces a plethora of shocking examples in arguing that pro-extinctionist sentiments are ubiquitous within Silicon Valley, even among those who report being on the side of &#8220;humanity.&#8221; It also argues (in more detail) that the most likely outcome of realizing the utopian world envisaged by TESCREALists is that our species will die out. This, along with #1 above, is essential reading in my opinion.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-strange-rise-of-antinatalism">The Perplexing Rise of Antinatalism in Silicon Valley</a></strong>. This examines the strange coexistence of pronatalism and antinatalism within tech culture. It introduces the term &#8220;replacement antinatalism,&#8221; in contrast to &#8220;traditional antinatalism,&#8221; to describe the growing demographic of young people who believe it&#8217;s &#8220;fundamentally unethical&#8221; to have children because AI will soon rule the world. Keep your eye on this trend moving forward!</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/if-anyone-becomes-posthuman-everyone?utm_source=publication-search">If Anyone Becomes Posthuman, Everyone Dies Out</a></strong>. Explores what I call the &#8220;coexistence&#8221; and &#8220;replacement&#8221; views, which concern our potential future relationship with posthumanity. I show that the replacement view (i.e., pro-extinctionism) is widely held within Silicon Valley, and argue that the coexistence view will almost unavoidably lead, in practice, to the extinction of our species. Hence, if we want to preserve <em>Homo sapiens</em> &#8212; and I claim that we should &#8212; we must <em>oppose</em> the creation of posthumanity in all its forms. If <em>anyone</em> becomes posthuman, <em>every human being</em> will perish soon after.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-scariest-people-in-the-world">The Scariest People in the World: Maniacs, Misanthropes, and Silicon Valley Pro-Extinctionists</a></strong>. Discusses &#8220;agential risks,&#8221; i.e., the risks arising from agents who would willingly destroy the world if only they could. Building on my earlier academic work (<a href="https://c8df8822-f112-4676-8332-ad89713358e3.filesusr.com/ugd/d9aaad_3981aaf5f8a04684987e12c784800895.pdf">here</a> and <a href="https://c8df8822-f112-4676-8332-ad89713358e3.filesusr.com/ugd/d9aaad_a6750b7ac84e44229e909dae7095449e.pdf">here</a>), I add a new category to the list of risky agents: TESCREAL pro-extinctionists who want to replace humanity with AI.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/sam-altman-human-extinction-is-our">Sam Altman: Human Extinction Is Our &#8220;Best-Case Scenario.&#8221;</a> </strong>Discusses <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">my </a><em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/">Truthdig</a></em><a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/sam-altmans-dangerous-singularity-delusions/"> article</a> in which I point out that Altman argues our &#8220;best chance&#8221; of surviving the advent of superintelligence is to &#8220;merge&#8221; with AI. In other words, the only way to avoid (one type of) extinction is to undergo (another type of) extinction. (See, again, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/189551086/ambiguous-terms-extinction">the difference between</a> &#8220;terminal&#8221; and &#8220;final&#8221; extinction.)</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/will-superintelligence-usher-in-a?utm_source=publication-search">Will Superintelligence &#8220;Usher in a Heavenly Golden Age&#8221;? Silicon Valley Thinks So</a></strong>. Examines, among other things, the fact that &#8220;many people at Anthropic believe that they might be making the next species to succeed us. That maybe humans don&#8217;t live after that<span>, and so it&#8217;s really important to give Claude good values&#8221; &#8212; to quote Holly Elmore. Wild stuff!</span></p></li><li><p><strong>Intro to Pro-Extinctionism (parts <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-growing-specter-of-silicon-valley">1</a>, <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/meet-the-radical-silicon-valley-pro">2</a>, and <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/do-all-silicon-valley-pro-extinctionists">3</a>)</strong>. Part 1 examines the &#8220;worthy successor&#8221; ideology of Daniel Faggella. I show that this ideology is deeply nihilistic. (See <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/199084798/a-self-defeating-futurology">this follow-up</a> for reasons his ideology is <em>incoherent and self-defeating</em>.) Part 2 and 3 are less notable, as they&#8217;re essentially early drafts of &#8220;One Half a Pro-Human Manifesto.&#8221;</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></li></ol><h3><strong>On Specific TESCREALists:</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best?utm_source=publication-search">Nick Bostrom Took Many of His &#8220;Best&#8221; Ideas from Other People</a></strong>. It turns out that the TESCREAL luminary, Nick Bostrom, has habitually borrowed ideas from others without proper attribution. I provide 8 glaring examples, though there are many more than this. As the silly saying goes, &#8220;good artists copy; great artists steal.&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/eliezer-yudkowskys-long-history-of">Eliezer Yudkowsky&#8217;s Long History of Bad Ideas</a></strong>. Yudkowsky is lauded by people in the cult he founded &#8212; Rationalism &#8212; as being a genius. He&#8217;s even repeatedly described himself as such. Yet he holds some incredibly stupid views: that almost all nonhuman animals have no conscious experience, and hence cannot feel pain; that it probably wouldn&#8217;t be a &#8220;bad thing&#8221; for a child under the age of 6 to die; that he&#8217;d be willing to sacrifice &#8220;all of humanity&#8221; to create &#8220;god-like superintelligences &#8230; having fun&#8221;; <em>and so on</em>. There are good reasons you should have zero respect for the guy.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-political-power-of-eschatological-82b">The Political Power of Eschatological Thinking: This Is Why Peter Thiel Is Talking About the Antichrist</a></strong>. Argues that &#8220;a true dedication to and belief in eschatological narratives can mobilize people like no other ideology or worldview can, while &#8216;justifying&#8217; virtually any act to protect, preserve, and accelerate the arrival of paradise &#8212; including extreme measures, violence, and even genocide.&#8221; Hence, &#8220;by tapping into a rich reservoir of powerful images embedded within our collective imagination, images that have played a crucial role in some of the most consequential events of human history, Thiel may hope to mobilize people to join his pro-libertarian fight against the unholy forces of &#8216;big government.&#8217;&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/is-sam-altman-a-sociopath">Is Sam Altman a Sociopath?</a></strong> &#8212; &#8220;Highly toxic.&#8221; &#8220;Psychologically abusive<span>.&#8221; &#8220;A person of low integrity.&#8221; This is how Altman&#8217;s colleagues have described him. I also discuss the accusations of abuse made against Altman by his sister, Annie.</span></p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/preparing-for-the-singularity-an">Preparing for the Singularity: An Ethnographic Survey of AGI Apocalypticists</a></strong>. A fascinating look at how people are preparing for the Singularity. Some have lost all motivation. Some are spending their retirement savings now because they don&#8217;t think money will have value in the near future. Others are working extra hard to improve their health based on the belief that if they live long enough to witness the Singularity, they will live forever. A good resource, I think, for historians 50 years from now.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-moral-cowardice-of-leading-effective">The Moral Cowardice of Leading Effective Altruists (and How EA Has Probably Made the World Worse)</a></strong>. Argues this: &#8220;<em>Claim</em><span>: EAs are exceptionally ethical people. </span><em>Prediction</em><span>: Leading EAs will, therefore, be the loudest voices on the vanguard of speaking out against atrocities like the Gaza genocide, ICE&#8217;s brutalization of immigrants, the rise of American fascism, etc. </span><em>Observation</em><span>: Crickets from the EA leadership.&#8221; Sigh.</span></p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/eliezer-yudkowsky-and-the-unabomber">Eliezer Yudkowsky and the Unabomber Have a Lot in Common</a></strong>. Discusses an interesting chapter of intellectual history: Kaczynski&#8217;s manifesto, Bill Joy&#8217;s 2000 &#8220;Why the Future Doesn&#8217;t Need Us,&#8221; the transhumanist opposition to Joy&#8217;s position (exemplified by Ray Kurzweil), and the way Yudkowsky&#8217;s views have shifted over time from aligning with Kurzweil&#8217;s to aligning with Joy&#8217;s &#8212; the latter of whom was partly inspired by the manifesto of Kaczynski.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostroms-pro-superintelligence">Nick Bostrom&#8217;s Pro-Superintelligence Paper Is an Embarrassment</a></strong>. Discusses Bostrom&#8217;s hilariously absurd argument that we should plow ahead with building god-like ASI even if there&#8217;s up to a 97% chance of total annihilation.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/sam-altman-cant-stop-lying">Sam Altman Can&#8217;t Stop Lying</a></strong>. Altman lied about the Molotov cocktail thrown at his house. He lies about his views on AI and democracy. He lies about virtually everything. I provide a number of egregious examples.</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></li></ol><h3><strong>Human Extinction (Ethics and History):</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/making-sense-of-the-human-extinction">Making Sense of the &#8220;Human Extinction&#8221; Debate</a></strong>. This provides a comprehensive but highly accessible introduction to the ethics of human extinction. It introduces a crucial ethical distinction between <em>Going Extinct</em> and <em>Being Extinct</em>, disambiguates the surprisingly polysemous term &#8220;human extinction,&#8221; and delineates the three major positions one could take on the ethics of our extinction: <em>equivalence views</em>, <em>further-loss views</em>, and <em>pro-extinctionist views</em>.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-revolutionary-paradigm-shift-on">A Revolutionary Paradigm Shift, on Par with the Copernican and Darwinian Revolutions, Is Happening Right Now and No One Is Talking About It</a></strong>. Argues that the realization that human extinction is <em>possible</em>, which has slowly unfolded over the past two centuries, constitutes a profound revolution in our thinking about the nature of humanity and our place in the cosmos on par with the Copernican and Darwinian revolutions. For the entirety of Western history &#8212; even when some Ancient Greeks believed that <em>demographic</em> extinction is possible (i.e., the disappearance of our species, which could be permanent <em>or </em>temporary) &#8212; virtually <em>everyone</em> accepted the fundamental indestructibility of our species. Recognizing the mortality of our species is a massive paradigm shift, which is still ongoing.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/human-extinction-a-brief-guided-tour">Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour</a></strong>. This was published before the newsletter was officially born. But I&#8217;m including it here because it condenses my 200,000-word book into a &#8220;mere&#8221; 20,000 words. It&#8217;s the tl;dr of my tome.</p></li></ol><h3><strong>Other Topics:</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/noam-chomsky-is-a-scumbag">Chomsky&#8217;s Connection to Jeffrey Epstein and Other Sexual Predators</a></strong>. I report on Chomsky&#8217;s links to Epstein, as well as Lawrence Krauss. One of the most disheartening to write, as Chomsky was (past tense) a moral hero of mine. I also discussed the issue on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxlxtyGkA_Q">Briahna Joy Gray&#8217;s podcast</a>.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/heres-why-spacexs-mission-is-bullshit">Here&#8217;s Why SpaceX&#8217;s Mission Is Bullshit</a></strong>. Argues that to achieve its mission of extending the &#8220;light of consciousness&#8221; to Mars and beyond, SpaceX will have to solve one of the following monumental &#8212; perhaps even <em>insurmountable</em> &#8212; problems: (1) terraform Mars, despite the fact that we can&#8217;t even terraform Earth. Or (2) build machines that are conscious, <em>and</em> devise a <em>highly reliable and accurate</em> &#8220;test&#8221; for determining whether particular machines are in fact conscious. Those are SpaceX&#8217;s two options, and neither appears feasible.</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/a-philosopher-explains-quantum-computers?utm_source=publication-search">A Philosopher Explains Quantum Computers</a></strong>. Provides a roughly 9,000-word introduction to quantum mechanics. If you&#8217;re looking for a highly accessible introduction to superposition, entanglement, interference, non-locality, qubits, and computational complexity theory, check this out!</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/pursuing-a-good-life-in-a-bad-world">Pursuing a Good Life in a Bad World</a></strong>. Explains how I maintain a cheerful disposition despite holding perhaps the most pessimistic view of the world possible, namely, that the &#8220;world is a living hell, a disaster zone, a waking nightmare, a horror show overflowing with unfathomable amounts of sorrow, anguish, and heartache.&#8221; Relatedly:</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/are-you-suffering-from-crisis-fatigue?utm_source=publication-search">Are You Suffering from Crisis Fatigue?</a></strong> Why yes, yes we are! Examines the psycho-emotional toll of dealing with the polycrisis.</p></li></ol><h3><strong>AI Bullshit:</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/why-you-should-never-use-ai-under">Why You Should Never Use AI Under Any Circumstances for Any Reason No Matter What</a></strong>. It&#8217;s funny how the articles (and tweets) I&#8217;ve spent the least time on sometimes end up becoming the most popular. With 3,608 likes as of this writing, this is by far my most read article. It compiles a number of &#8220;AI bloopers,&#8221; which people apparently enjoy chuckling at. :-)</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/gpt-5-is-by-far-the-best-ai-system">GPT-5 Should Be Ashamed of Itself</a></strong>. A companion piece to the article above, published a few weeks prior.</p></li></ol><h3>Climate Change:</h3><ol><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/covering-the-alps-in-giant-tarps">Covering the Alps in Giant Tarps and Other Climate-Related News</a></strong>. Provides an alarming snapshot of the climate crisis. It&#8217;s one of <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/192724893/the-21st-century-existential-mood">several articles</a> I&#8217;ve written on the topic, though it hasn&#8217;t been a primary subject of this newsletter thus far.</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p></li></ol><h1>Questions for Readers:</h1><p>I&#8217;d love to know more about what you like &#8212; and don&#8217;t like &#8212; about this newsletter (please feel free to comment candidly below). Which topics should I cover more? Would you like me to include short commentary videos in my posts? Are my articles, in general, too long or too short? And so on.</p><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:888427}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:888455}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:888462}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:888471}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:888479}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><div class="poll-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:888495}" data-component-name="PollToDOM"></div><p>Any other thoughts on how I could make this newsletter better? Any suggestions on what I can do to grow my audience? I&#8217;m all ears. :-)</p><p>As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Nick Bostrom Took Many of His "Best" Ideas from Other People]]></title><description><![CDATA[An investigation with examples so you can decide for yourself. (7,100 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2026 14:07:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/959e7601-d85f-4823-ad7f-62b1d40e912e_1602x2084.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Bostrom is the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230111194123/https://nickbostrom.com/oldemail.pdf">former director</a> of the Future of Humanity Institute (FHI) at Oxford. His publications on transhumanism, longtermism, and artificial superintelligence (ASI) have had a major impact on the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL movement</a>, and directly inspired the current race to build ASI.</p><p>I&#8217;ve followed his work since about 2005, and it&#8217;s been clear to me for some time that Bostrom considers himself to be a towering intellect of cosmic-historical importance. He is not shy when boasting about his supposed accomplishments, even <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">quoting on his website</a> an article that describes him as the &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/cv.pdf">Swedish superbrain</a>.&#8221; For many years, he bragged that &#8212; to <a href="https://www.edge.org/memberbio/nick_bostrom">quote his profile on Edge.org</a> &#8212; &#8220;his performance as an undergraduate set a national record in Sweden,&#8221; though he backed away from this after Simon Knutsson pointed out that there is <em>no evidence</em> to support such a claim. (See the &#8220;<a href="https://www.simonknutsson.com/problems-in-effective-altruism-and-existential-risk-and-what-to-do-about-them/#Potentially_dishonest_self-promotion">Potentially Dishonest Self-Promotion</a>&#8221; section of <a href="https://www.simonknutsson.com/problems-in-effective-altruism-and-existential-risk-and-what-to-do-about-them/">this article</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>)</p><p>According to a TESCREAList named Diego Caleiro, as Caleiro departed FHI many years ago, Bostrom <a href="https://diegocaleiro.com/2023/02/26/agi-when-did-you-cry-about-the-end/">turned to him and</a> &#8220;made a gesture like Atlas, holding the world above his shoulders, and quasi letting the world fall, then readjusting.&#8221; Caleiro writes that &#8220;while funny, I also understood the obvious connotation of how tough it must be to carry the weight of the world like 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Nick Bostrom &#8220;dabbled in stand-up comedy on the London circuit&#8221; while a graduate student, according to <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">his website</a>. A true renaissance man! Picture from <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Yet, because I&#8217;m so conversant with the foundational literature of the TESCREAL movement, I&#8217;ve noticed that a large number of the &#8220;original,&#8221; &#8220;novel,&#8221; even (supposedly) &#8220;groundbreaking&#8221; ideas attributed to Bostrom <em>actually originated with other thinkers</em>. As early as 2018, I was posting about this on social media and privately sharing examples with colleagues &#8212; some of whom were rather shocked to see Bostrom&#8217;s work juxtaposed with that of others (from whom he borrowed without sufficient attribution). I wrote to one colleague that Bostrom&#8217;s &#8220;genius&#8221; seems to be taking ideas from other theorists and repackaging them in his own language such that they&#8217;re <em>just different enough</em> for him to avoid being accused of intellectual plagiarism. His oeuvre reminds me of the line, often <a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/03/06/artists-steal/"><span>misattributed</span></a> to Picasso: &#8220;Good artists copy; great artists steal.&#8221;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I currently have 100 paid subscribers (thank you <em>so much</em> for your support!). I need a total of 200 to pay all of my bills. If you happen to have an extra $7 to spare each month, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. If you don&#8217;t, I&#8217;m nonetheless incredibly grateful for your interest in this newsletter. :-) Thanks so much, friends.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Here are just a few examples. Don&#8217;t take my word for it &#8212; decide for yourself:</p><h3>1. Existential Risk Scenarios</h3><h4>1.1 Bostrom&#8217;s 2002 Paper</h4><p>Perhaps the most &#8220;famous&#8221; paper written by Bostrom is his 2002 &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">Existential Risks: Analyzing Human Extinction Scenarios and Related Hazards</a>.&#8221; I first read this circa 2005 and was struck by its breadth and originality. Bostrom offers a technical definition of &#8220;existential risk,&#8221; which denotes any event that would prevent us from creating a (utopian) posthuman civilization. (Hence, the term is intimately bound up with his version of transhumanism.)</p><p>About half of the paper is a detailed classification of different types of existential risk scenarios, such as<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>:</p><ol><li><p>Deliberate misuse of nanotechnology and a nanotechnology accident (such as the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_goo">gray goo</a> scenario).</p></li><li><p>Nuclear holocaust.</p></li><li><p>Misaligned superintelligence.</p></li><li><p>Engineered pandemics.</p></li><li><p>Natural pandemics.</p></li><li><p>Physics disasters, e.g., <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Existential_threat">vacuum decay</a>.</p></li><li><p>Asteroid or comet collisions.</p></li><li><p>Runaway climate change.</p></li><li><p>Fundamentalist religious or ecological movement that halts technological development.</p></li><li><p>An extraterrestrial civilization kills us.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Something unforeseen,&#8221; because &#8220;it would be foolish to be confident that we have already imagined and anticipated all significant risks.&#8221; (Take note of the wording.)</p></li><li><p>Examples of the above include &#8220;solar flares, supernovae, black hole explosions or mergers, gamma-ray bursts, galactic center outbursts, supervolcanoes,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> loss of biodiversity, buildup of air pollution, gradual loss of human fertility, and various religious doomsday scenarios.&#8221; (Take note of each of these threats.)</p></li><li><p>Resource depletion or ecological destruction.</p></li><li><p>Totalitarianism.</p></li><li><p>Insurmountable technological hurdles (that prevent us from developing advanced technologies).</p></li><li><p>Our <a href="https://simulation-argument.com">simulation gets shut down</a>. (Lolz)</p></li><li><p>Dysgenic pressures, whereby less &#8220;intelligent&#8221; people outbreed their more &#8220;intelligent&#8221; peers. (Bostrom is a eugenicist.)</p></li></ol><p>He then discusses the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox">Fermi paradox</a>, <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/anthropics">anthropics</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle">observation selection effects</a>, and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument">Doomsday Argument</a>. Taking these in order:</p><p>The Fermi paradox (which <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.09187">is neither a paradox nor Fermi&#8217;s</a>!) points out that it&#8217;s surprising we <em>don&#8217;t</em> see evidence of technologically advanced civilizations given the age and size of the universe. Hence, Bostrom <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">writes</a> that</p><blockquote><p>there must be (at least) one Great Filter &#8212; an evolutionary step that is extremely improbable &#8212; somewhere on the line between Earth-like planet and colonizing-in-detectable-ways civilization. If the Great Filter isn&#8217;t in our past, we must fear it in our (near) future. Maybe almost every civilization that develops a certain level of technology causes its own extinction.</p></blockquote><p>Observation selection effects <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/existential-risks/">concern the question</a> of &#8220;what we should expect to observe given some hypothesis about the distribution of observers in the world.&#8221; For example, you might think that a large asteroid striking Earth is improbable <em>because</em> we haven&#8217;t witnessed one strike Earth in the past 300,000 years (the period during which our species has existed). But if an asteroid <em>had</em> struck Earth during this time, we wouldn&#8217;t be here to talk about it having happened. Hence, we will <em>only ever find ourselves</em> in worlds where asteroids <em>haven&#8217;t</em> struck in the recent past. This means that the evidence available to us will be biased in certain ways.</p><p>The Doomsday Argument is an <em>a priori</em> argument for why human extinction is <em>more probable</em> than we&#8217;d otherwise expect &#8212; that is, based on <em>empirical</em> observations. The reasoning is interesting: basically, it&#8217;s more likely that we&#8217;d find ourselves in a large population at the end of history than in the much smaller population of people long ago, when human history was just beginning. We should thus increase our probability estimates of a secular apocalypse happening soon.</p><h4>1.2 John Leslie&#8217;s 1996 Book</h4><p>Again, I was extremely impressed with Bostrom&#8217;s paper when I first read it. It was original and erudite &#8212; even polymathic.</p><p>But then I read the introductory chapter of John Leslie&#8217;s 1996 book <em><a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-End-of-the-World-The-Science-and-Ethics-of-Human-Extinction/Leslie/p/book/9780415184472">The End of the World</a></em> and was utterly shocked by how similar Bostrom&#8217;s paper is to it. (And, as I&#8217;ll explain in a moment, we know that Bostrom was very familiar with Leslie&#8217;s book.) For example, although Leslie doesn&#8217;t use the term &#8220;existential risk,&#8221; the central topic of his tome is human extinction &#8212; the most obvious type of existential risk. In the introduction, he lists scenarios like the following that could potentially have annihilatory consequences<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>:</p><ol><li><p>A disaster from nanotechnology (including the &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_goo">gray goo</a>&#8221; scenario).</p></li><li><p>Nuclear war.</p></li><li><p>Computer-related disaster (e.g., computers replacing us).</p></li><li><p>Engineered pandemics (i.e., &#8220;a disaster from genetic engineering,&#8221; including &#8220;green scum&#8221; and altered microorganisms that could render women infertile).</p></li><li><p>Natural pandemics.</p></li><li><p>Physics disasters, e.g., <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Existential_threat">vacuum decay</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p></li><li><p>Asteroid or comet collision.</p></li><li><p>Runaway climate change.</p></li><li><p>Religious or philosophical ideologies that prevent humanity from surviving, including Schopenhauerian pessimism, ethical relativism, negative utilitarianism, and &#8220;person-affecting&#8221; ethical theories.</p></li><li><p>Extraterrestrials kill us.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Something-we-know-not-what,&#8221; because &#8220;it would be foolish to think we had foreseen all possible natural disasters&#8221; and &#8220;we cannot possibly imagine every single danger which technological advances might bring with them.&#8221; (Sound familiar?)</p></li><li><p>Nearby supernova or black hole merger, volcanic supereruptions, pollution, ozone depletion, etc.</p></li><li><p>Extreme ice age.</p></li><li><p>Breakdown of complex systems.</p></li><li><p>Unwillingness to have children.</p></li><li><p>Biological or chemical warfare.</p></li><li><p>Some other kind of technological disaster.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p></li></ol><p>These lists are clearly <em>very similar</em>. My impression at the time of first reading Leslie was that the bulk of Bostrom&#8217;s paper is little more than a summary of Leslie&#8217;s opening chapter. Bostrom even uses similar language. For example, in adding &#8220;unknowns&#8221; sections at or toward the end of each list (exactly as Leslie does), he writes: &#8220;<em>It would be foolish to</em> be confident that we have already imagined and anticipated all significant risks.&#8221; Compare that with what Leslie says: &#8220;<em>It would be foolish to</em> think we had foreseen all possible natural disasters &#8230; [and] every single danger which technological advances might bring with them&#8221; (italics added to both quotes).</p><p>Even more, Leslie then proceeds to discuss the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox">Fermi paradox</a>, <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/anthropics">anthropics</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle">observation selection effects</a>, and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument">Doomsday Argument</a> (which he partly developed) &#8212; exactly as Bostrom does, except years before Bostrom wrote his paper.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Some humor: the Doomsday Argument should not be confused with the <a href="https://www.lighthousedigest.com/news/doomsday.cfm">Doomsday List</a>, which is &#8212; I kid you not &#8212; a <em>list of endangered lighthouses</em>. There&#8217;s also the &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_rule">Doomsday rule</a>,&#8221; a mnemonic device &#8220;for working out the day of the week corresponding to any given date.&#8221; So much &#8220;doom,&#8221; so little <em>doom</em>.</p></div><p>These similarities aren&#8217;t a coincidence: Bostrom wrote his <a href="https://anthropic-principle.com/phd/phdhtml">PhD dissertation</a> on the topic of anthropics, and relied on Leslie&#8217;s 1996 book &#8212; mentioning Leslie&#8217;s name 135 times and citing the book throughout. Bostrom even thanks Leslie <a href="https://anthropic-principle.com/phd/phdhtml#a">in the Acknowledgments section</a>.</p><p>So far as I can tell, the only thing that&#8217;s nontrivially original about Bostrom&#8217;s 2002 paper is the <em>existential risk</em> concept, which he introduced to capture an idea that was, as it happens, already being discussed by his online Extropian buddies. Whereas Leslie focuses specifically on human extinction, Bostrom recognized that there are a range of <em>survivable</em> scenarios that would <em>also</em> prevent us from creating a posthuman utopia full of &#8220;astronomical&#8221; amounts of value. That&#8217;s not nothing, but it&#8217;s not a lot, either.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lYBA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5230e2be-9d44-4fb3-8fdf-984ee375efb1_350x467.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lYBA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5230e2be-9d44-4fb3-8fdf-984ee375efb1_350x467.jpeg 424w, 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Where Are They?</h3><p>In 2008, Bostrom published an article in the <em>MIT Technology review</em> titled &#8220;<a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2008/04/22/220999/where-are-they/">Where Are They? Why I Hope the Search for Extraterrestrial Life Finds Nothing</a>&#8221; &#8212; which he presumably <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/how-to-pitch-mit-technology-review/">got paid $1 to $2 </a><em><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/how-to-pitch-mit-technology-review/">per word</a></em><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/how-to-pitch-mit-technology-review/"> for</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> His central thesis is that &#8220;I hope that our Mars probes will discover nothing. It would be good news if we find Mars to be completely sterile. Dead rocks and lifeless sands would lift my spirit.&#8221; He continues:</p><blockquote><p>Conversely, if we discovered traces of some simple extinct life form &#8211; some bacteria, some algae &#8211; it would be bad news. If we found fossils of something more advanced, perhaps something looking like the remnants of a trilobite or even the skeleton of a small mammal, it would be very bad news. The more complex the life we found, the more depressing the news of its existence would be. Scientifically interesting, certainly, but a bad omen for the future of the human race.</p></blockquote><p>Why does he say this? Given the Fermi paradox, there must be at least one <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter">Great Filter</a> that prevents life from developing far enough to colonize the universe and make its presence known. This Great Filter could be behind us or ahead of us.</p><p>For example, it could be that the step from non-life to single-celled living organisms (a process called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis">abiogenesis</a>) is extremely unlikely. If so, then <em>we</em> have gotten very lucky &#8212; and the mystery of why we don&#8217;t see technologically advanced civilizations flitting about the galaxy, given the age and size of the universe, makes perfectly good sense. <em>Or</em> it could be that the step from single-celled organisms to multicellular lifeforms is extremely improbable, <em>or</em> that the subsequent emergence of big-brained creatures like us is highly unlikely.</p><p><em>Alternatively</em>, it could be that all of these steps are fairly probable &#8212; i.e., none constitute a Great Filter. Instead, the universe is teaming with big-brained creatures that, just like us, build industrial civilizations, destroy their environments, invent nuclear weapons, run dangerous physics experiments, etc. and then promptly destroy themselves before having initiated a colonization explosion. If that&#8217;s the case, then the Great Filter lies <em>ahead</em> of us, meaning that we&#8217;ll soon go extinct due to rogue superintelligence, climate breakdown, nuclear war, etc.</p><p>What does <em>this</em> imply? It implies that finding evidence of simple lifeforms in the universe &#8212; including on our planetary neighbor, Mars &#8212; will <em>shift the probability</em> of the Great Filter being behind us to it being ahead of us. If it turns out that simple lifeforms are common, then the Great Filter probably <em>isn&#8217;t</em> the step of abiogenesis. That means that the probability of the Great Filter being in our (near) future <em>rises</em> &#8212; which is, of course, very bad news for us! It means we might all die in some kind of extinction event in the coming years or decades.</p><p>That&#8217;s Bostrom&#8217;s ostensibly <em>original</em> point. Throughout the article, on my reading, he repeatedly presents this idea as his own. (Read it for yourself and let me know what you think.) &#8220;So this is why <em>I&#8217;m</em> hoping,&#8221; he concludes, &#8220;that our space probes will discover dead rocks and lifeless sands on Mars, on Jupiter&#8217;s moon Europa, and everywhere else our astronomers look&#8221; (italics added). &#8220;It would keep alive the hope for a great future for humanity.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FXCP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee82b291-8fee-4a8e-993a-7057424d662e_2036x1554.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Enter Robin Hanson &#8230;</figcaption></figure></div><p>Yet this isn&#8217;t his idea at all. It&#8217;s clearly included in the 1998 article titled &#8220;<a href="https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/greatfilter.html">The Great Filter &#8212; Are We Almost Past It?</a>&#8221; by Robin Hanson, which introduced the idea of the Great Filter. Hanson writes:</p><blockquote><p>While all of these stories [about how each evolutionary step leading from non-living matter to space colonization could happen] are at least minimally plausible, our main data point implies that at least one of these plausible stories is wrong &#8212; one or more of these steps is much more improbable than it otherwise looks. If it is one of our past steps, such as the development of single-cell life, then we shouldn&#8217;t expect to see such independently evolved life anywhere within billions of light years from us. But if it is a step between here and a choice to explode that is very improbable, we should fear for our future. At the very least, our potential would have to be much less than it seems. <em>Optimism (as defined here) regarding our future is directly pitted against optimism regarding the ease of previous evolutionary steps. To the extent those successes were easy, our future failure to explode is almost certain</em>.</p></blockquote><p>In other words, if the steps from non-living matter to single-cells, from single-cells to multicellular beings, and from multicellular beings to big-brained creatures are &#8220;easy&#8221; &#8212; if there is no Great Filter making them highly improbable &#8212; then we should fear for our future, because it implies that the Great Filter must be <em>ahead</em> of us. Since finding life on Mars would suggest that there <em>isn&#8217;t</em> a Great Filter in our evolutionary past, then suddenly the probability that it lies in our future <em>rises</em>.</p><p>I read Bostrom&#8217;s article before Hanson&#8217;s, and once again I believed that Bostrom was articulating a novel insight. But he wasn&#8217;t. Yet Bostrom only <em>once</em> mentions Hanson in the MIT <em>Technology Review</em> paper &#8212; not to acknowledge that Hanson made the same <em>point</em>, but to parenthetically attribute the <em>term</em> &#8220;Great Filter&#8221; to him. Bostrom <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201101024117/https://www.technologyreview.com/2008/04/22/220999/where-are-they/">writes</a>: &#8220;I borrow this term from Robin Hanson, an economist at George Mason University.&#8221;</p><p>Meanwhile, over on Bostrom&#8217;s personal website, he posted a slightly different version of <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080913091644/http://www.nickbostrom.com/extraterrestrial.pdf">the article</a> that includes a footnote that says: &#8220;I borrow this term from Robin Hanson&#8217;s &#8216;The Great Filter &#8212; Are We Almost Past It?&#8217; &#8230; a paper which presents an argument similar to the one expounded here.&#8221;</p><p>If you were to miss that brief footnote in <em>the version posted on his personal website</em> &#8212; the only place where he acknowledges the unoriginality of his thesis &#8212; then you&#8217;d naturally think Bostrom&#8217;s article is making a novel point. Readers of the <em>MIT Technology Review</em> most likely did, as did I when I first read it. Turns out Bostrom was just echoing Hanson&#8217;s idea.</p><p>And for this, he received somewhere between $4,692 and $9,384 (again, $1 or $2 per word), assuming that <em>MIT Technology Review</em> paid writers the same back in 2008 as it does now. That&#8217;s a lot of money for rehashing someone else&#8217;s point without even noting, as he does in the personal-website (but not officially published) version, that Hanson &#8220;presents an argument similar [nay, identical in essence] to the one expounded here.&#8221;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is <em>entirely</em> reader-supported. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>3. Superintelligence</h3><p>In 2014, Bostrom published a surprise bestseller titled <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence:_Paths,_Dangers,_Strategies">Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies</a></em>. It offered a comprehensive overview of the argument for why ASI could pose a dire existential risk. Indeed, Bostrom <a href="https://books.google.nl/books?id=C-_8AwAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PR12&amp;dq=superintelligence+bostrom+%22default+outcome%22+%22doom%22&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=1&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiAlJ3zgemVAxXu87sIHVHkMScQ6AF6BAgIEAM">contends</a> that the &#8220;default outcome&#8221; of ASI is &#8220;doom,&#8221; because figuring out how to &#8220;align&#8221; ASI with the &#8220;values&#8221; of humanity (by which he really means the values of the <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/skeptical-of-the-tescreal-acronym">TESCREAL worldview</a>) poses enormous technical and philosophical challenges.</p><p>This book was hailed as an important contribution to the study of ASI existential risk. Elon Musk endorsed it, <a href="https://www.amazon.fr/-/en/Superintelligence-Dangers-Strategies-Nick-Bostrom/dp/0199678111">as did Bill Gates</a>. Sam Altman <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1">called it</a> &#8220;the best thing I&#8217;ve seen on this topic. It is well worth a read.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/elonmusk/status/495759307346952192&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Worth reading Superintelligence by Bostrom. We need to be super careful with AI. Potentially more dangerous than nukes.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2053244804520427520/m8mdWZCG_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2014-08-03T02:33:24.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:517,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:2218,&quot;like_count&quot;:3114,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Yet it turns out that much of the book is little more than a summary of ideas outlined by Bostrom&#8217;s TESCREAL colleague Eliezer Yudkowsky (who was himself building upon earlier writers like IJ Good, Verner Vinge, etc.). As Ben Goertzel writes in <a href="https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fea9/96d1910b07354e134fdb8853cb2cc45ac46d.pdf">a review of the book</a>, &#8220;nearly all the core ideas of Bostrom&#8217;s work appeared previously or concurrently in Yudkowsky&#8217;s thinking.&#8221; In a section titled &#8220;Scratch the Surface of Bostrom, Find Yudkowsky,&#8221; he <a href="https://jeet.ieet.org/index.php/home/article/view/48">reports</a> that</p><blockquote><p>my first reaction, as I paged with curiosity through Bostrom&#8217;s gloomy, erudite tome, was to be struck by the remarkable similarity between the arguments, and the general attitude presented, and the perspective on the future of AI put forth by Eliezer Yudkowsky over the last 15 years or so. Yudkowsky has not (yet) written any single document as thorough and carefully-wrought as <em>Superintelligence</em>. But in mailing list and blog posts and online essays over the years, he has articulated a perspective very close to Bostrom&#8217;s, and in many ways possessing more depth and nuance.</p></blockquote><p>Goertzel <a href="https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fea9/96d1910b07354e134fdb8853cb2cc45ac46d.pdf">adds</a> that</p><blockquote><p>with only mild oversimplification, one might say that Bostrom&#8217;s <em>Superintelligence</em> is a triumphal work synergizing Bostrom&#8217;s communication and analytical ability and Yudkowsky&#8217;s creative ideas. Of course, this oversimplification isn&#8217;t quite fair to Bostrom, who contributed a lot of detailed ideas to his book as well. But as for the Big Ideas in <em>Superintelligence</em>, it really seems that every one was articulated at some point previously by Eliezer Yudkowsky.</p></blockquote><p>So, Bostrom gets some credit for &#8220;a lot of detailed ideas,&#8221; but the most <em>significant</em> ideas in the book came from Yudkowsky &#8212; pictured below.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9V7N!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2485b4a4-1a7f-4590-80fb-6bccba9ed88e_634x946.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9V7N!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2485b4a4-1a7f-4590-80fb-6bccba9ed88e_634x946.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9V7N!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2485b4a4-1a7f-4590-80fb-6bccba9ed88e_634x946.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9V7N!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2485b4a4-1a7f-4590-80fb-6bccba9ed88e_634x946.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9V7N!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2485b4a4-1a7f-4590-80fb-6bccba9ed88e_634x946.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" 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15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">The self-described &#8220;genius,&#8221; Eliezer Yudkowsky.</figcaption></figure></div><h3>4. Instrumental Convergence vs. AI Drives</h3><p>It&#8217;s not just Yudkowsky that Bostrom drew from when writing about ASI existential risk. A central premise of the argument for ASI x-risk is what Bostrom calls the &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence">instrumental convergence thesis</a>.&#8221;</p><p>Bostrom first delineated this thesis (so far as I know) in his 2012 article, &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/superintelligentwill.pdf">The Superintelligent Will: Motivation and Instrumental Rationality in Advanced Artificial Agents</a>.&#8221; It states that agents with a sufficiently high level of &#8220;intelligence&#8221; will predictably pursue a finite set of intermediary or &#8220;instrumental&#8221; goals, given a <em>wide range</em> of final goals (i.e., the ultimate goals the ASI wants to achieve). Such instrumental goals include:</p><ul><li><p>Self-preservation: ensuring that it stays alive, because an agent can&#8217;t reach its final goals if it perishes.</p></li><li><p>Goal-content integrity: ensuring that it&#8217;s goals stay the same over time, because an agent at T1 can&#8217;t reach its final goals if it allows those final goals to change at some later time T2.</p></li><li><p>Cognitive enhancement: improving its cognitive abilities, including its rationality, as this will help it find new and better ways to attain its final goals.</p></li><li><p>Technological perfection: create ever-more powerful technologies, as this will help it bend the world toward realizing its final goals.</p></li><li><p>Resource acquisition: acquire as many resources as possible, as resources are necessary for achieving most final goals that it might have.</p></li></ul><p>Whether the final goal of an ASI is curing cancer, calculating the 100-millionth digit of pi, or converting the entire universe into data centers, we can predict &#8212; the claim goes &#8212; that in trying to achieve such goals, the ASI will attempt to preserve itself, prevent its goals from being altered, improve its cognition, perfect technology, and acquire maximal resources. This is the instrumental convergence thesis.</p><p>Once more, I came away from this paper after reading it 10+ years ago thinking that it was yet another publication of notable originality from Bostrom. Only later did I notice a footnote <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120507184317/https://nickbostrom.com/superintelligentwill.pdf"><span>hidden at the bottom</span></a> of one of the pages <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/superintelligentwill.pdf">that says</a> a guy named &#8220;Stephen Omohundro has written two pioneering papers on this topic,&#8221; one being &#8220;<a href="https://selfawaresystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ai_drives_final.pdf">The Basic AI Drives</a>,&#8221; published in 2008 &#8212; four years before Bostrom&#8217;s paper and six years before <em>Superintelligence</em>. Bostrom goes on to say that he doesn&#8217;t like Omohundro&#8217;s &#8220;AI drive&#8221; terminology. He thinks &#8220;instrumental goals&#8221; is better. He then adds at the very end of this footnote that his &#8220;treatment here also differs from that of Omohundro in some other more substantial ways, although the underlying idea is the same.&#8221;</p><p>I would agree that &#8220;the underlying idea is the same,&#8221; because it obviously is. For example, in Omohundro&#8217;s paper, he identifies the following as AI drives (i.e., instrumental goals) that any sufficiently intelligent system will almost certainly pursue:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;A strong drive toward self-preservation.&#8221; Again, if the AI ceases to exist, it won&#8217;t be able to achieve its final goals, which means it will take steps to ensure its survival.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;AIs will try to preserve their utility functions,&#8221; which Bostrom calls goal-content integrity.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a></p></li><li><p>Self-improvement, such as developing &#8220;more efficient algorithms, more compressed representations, and better learning techniques&#8221; to augment its cognitive abilities. This also means the AI systems will try to make themselves more rational. In other words, cognitive enhancement.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a></p></li><li><p>&#8220;AIs will want to acquire resources and use them efficiently,&#8221; given that &#8220;all computation and physical action requires the physical resources of space, time, matter, and free energy.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Bostrom&#8217;s list isn&#8217;t <em>entirely identical </em>with Omohundro&#8217;s. But it&#8217;s <em>very close</em>. Yet, when TESCREAL folks talk about the topic, almost no one cites Omohundro. Some aren&#8217;t even aware that he published an article strikingly similar to Bostrom&#8217;s. Rather &#8212; as with all the examples above &#8212; Bostrom gets most of the credit, as if he was the first to hit upon these ideas.</p><h3>5. Letter From Utopia Vs. Letter to Mother Nature</h3><p>Back in 2008, I emailed one of the founding members of the Extropian movement. (Bostrom was once an Extropian.) In the email, I mentioned Bostrom&#8217;s essay &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/utopia">Letter from Utopia</a>,&#8221; as I was using it for an art project. The Extropian liked my art project but said:</p><blockquote><p>A suggestion is to read Max More&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="https://www.maxmore.com/mother.htm">Letter to Mother Nature</a>&#8221; [1999] written years before Nick grabbed onto the idea and then did his own version with no credit or mention of Max. &#8230; I just wish that you were using the original idea and the original letter because that would give your [work] integrity and honesty.</p></blockquote><p>Bostrom published &#8220;Letter from Utopia&#8221; in 2008 (though he claims to have first circulated a draft in 2006), while More read his &#8220;Letter to Mother Nature&#8221; at an Extropianism conference in 1999. Not only are the titles similar, but the content overlaps considerably. For example, More <a href="https://www.maxmore.com/mother.htm">lists</a> seven &#8220;amendments&#8221; to the &#8220;human constitution,&#8221; namely:</p><ol><li><p>Overcome aging and death.</p></li><li><p>Expand perceptual range (new senses).</p></li><li><p>Enhance cognition.</p></li><li><p>Supplement the neocortex with a &#8220;metabrain,&#8221; i.e., a &#8220;distributed network of sensors, information processors, and intelligence.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Use genetic engineering to control biological and neurological processes.</p></li><li><p>Refine emotions and improve rationality.</p></li><li><p>Control our biochemistry and integrate technology into our bodies.</p></li></ol><p>The goal <a href="https://www.maxmore.com/mother.htm">is for</a> &#8220;these amendments to our constitution [to] move us from a human to a posthuman condition as individuals.&#8221; Along exactly similar lines, Bostrom&#8217;s &#8220;letter&#8221; is written by a fictional posthuman who <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/utopia">declares</a> that <em>we could become posthuman</em> if only we pursue &#8220;three fundamental transformations,&#8221; namely:</p><ol><li><p>Overcome aging and death.</p></li><li><p>Enhance intelligence and perceptual range. (&#8220;And then ask yourself, what other harmonies are there in the air, that you lack the ears to hear? What vaults of value are you witlessly debarred from, because you lack the key sensibility? &#8230; Your brain must grow beyond the bounds of any genius of humankind, in its special faculties as well as its general intelligence &#8230;&#8221;)</p></li><li><p>Elevate well-being. (Maximize our ability to experience pleasure. Increase our rationality: &#8220;All emotions have a function. Prune and weed carefully lest you accidentally reduce the fertility of your plot.&#8221;)</p></li></ol><p><em>Not once</em> does Bostrom cite More&#8217;s earlier &#8220;letter&#8221; as a source of inspiration. Not once does he indicate that his &#8220;letter&#8221; is strikingly similar to More&#8217;s. Yet almost no one cites More; instead, the citation goes to Bostrom.</p><h3>6. Astronomical Waste</h3><p>One of the foundational papers of longtermism &#8212; the claim that we should become posthuman, colonize space, and flood the universe with digital beings living in giant computer simulations &#8212; is Bostrom&#8217;s 2003 paper &#8220;<a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/astronomical-waste/">Astronomical Waste: The Opportunity Cost of Delayed Technological Development</a>.&#8221; In 2022, Elon Musk even retweeted a link to this paper along with the line (in the original tweet): &#8220;Likely the most important paper ever written.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1529172099503357954?lang=en&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;RT <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@Liv_Boeree</span>: &#8220;Astronomical Waste&#8221;\n\nLikely the most important paper ever written:\n\n<a class=\&quot;tweet-url\&quot; href=\&quot;https://www.nickbostrom.com/astronomical/waste.html\&quot;>nickbostrom.com/astronomical/w&#8230;</a>&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;elonmusk&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Elon Musk&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2053244804520427520/m8mdWZCG_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2022-05-24T18:46:53.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:0,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1424,&quot;like_count&quot;:0,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>This paper played a huge role in my conversion to the longtermist/TESCREAL worldview. But, once again, I was later shocked to discover that the central idea wasn&#8217;t Bostrom&#8217;s.</p><p>In brief, the paper argues that if we colonize space &#8212; especially as digital posthumans &#8212; the future population could be enormous. Bostrom estimates some 10^38 digital people within the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_Supercluster">Virgo Supercluster</a>, a <em>cluster of</em> galaxy clusters that includes our own Milky Way. (That&#8217;s a 10 followed by 38 zeros, by the way.)</p><p>If one accepts a utilitarian perspective, this means the <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/expected-value">expected value</a> of ensuring the realization of all those future people (assuming they have net-positive lives) <em>far exceeds</em> the value of, e.g., helping poor people today. If you&#8217;re a truly altruistic person who aims to maximize your philanthropic impact, then you should focus not on present-day people but those living perhaps millions or billions of years from now. It&#8217;s not that future digital people are <em>inherently</em> more valuable. It&#8217;s just a numbers-game: there are so many more of them (potentially) than present-day people, they overwhelm the simplistic equations of utilitarianism&#8217;s moral mathematics.</p><p>Bostrom&#8217;s conclusion is that we should colonize the universe <em>as soon as possible</em>, because every single century, decade, and even second of <em>delaying </em>this results in an &#8220;astronomical&#8221; loss of potential value &#8212; i.e., the non-existence of people who could have otherwise been created in some distant galaxy <em>if only </em>we had started colonizing just a bit sooner. However, Bostrom also <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/astronomical-waste/">concludes</a> that &#8220;priority number one, two, three and four should &#8230; be to reduce existential risk.&#8221; Space colonization should therefore be priority number five once we secure our survival. Perhaps you can see why Musk loves this paper.</p><p>In the second paragraph of Bostrom&#8217;s paper, he <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/astronomical-waste/">writes</a> that &#8220;one recent paper speculates, using loose theoretical considerations based on the rate of increase of entropy, that the loss of potential human lives in our own galactic supercluster is at least ~10^46 per century of delayed colonization.&#8221; This cites a paper by Bostrom&#8217;s colleague, Milan &#262;irkovi&#263;, titled &#8220;<a href="https://www.jetpress.org/volume12/CosmologicalForecast.pdf">Cosmological Forecast and its Practical Significance</a>,&#8221; published one year before &#8220;Astronomical Waste.&#8221; Curious, I read &#262;irkovi&#263;&#8217;s piece and was quite surprised to find that he makes an almost identical argument to that of Bostrom, though the details and framing are different.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> At the risk of going into too much detail, here&#8217;s what I write about this paper <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Human-Extinction-A-History-of-the-Science-and-Ethics-of-Annihilation/Torres/p/book/9781032159089">in my 2024 book</a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#262;irkovi&#263; argued that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology#Analogies_in_science_and_philosophy">physical eschatology</a> paired with recent developments in anthropics (from both [John] Leslie and Bostrom) carry potentially urgent practical implications for &#8220;intelligent observers interested in self-preservation and achieving [the] maximum of its creative potential.&#8221; Specifically, the <em>timing</em> of space colonization could make a significant difference to the amount of resources available to advanced civilizations, given our best current understanding of our &#8220;cosmological situation.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That&#8217;s exactly what Bostrom argues. Even more:</p><blockquote><p>As [&#262;irkovi&#263;] expressed the idea, decision-making performed today, as far as humanity is concerned, may have enormous consequences on very long timescales. In particular, an overly conservative approach to space colonization and technologization, may result (and in fact might have already resulted) in <em>the loss of [a] substantial fraction of all possible observer-moments humanity could have had achieved</em>. The term &#8220;observer-moment&#8221; comes from Bostrom, who defined it as &#8220;a brief time-segment of an observer.&#8221; Thinking in terms of observer-moments instead of observers is relevant to anthropics &#8212; that is, to reasoning about one&#8217;s location in space and time based solely on the fact that one is an intelligent observer. But it may also be relevant to estimating our &#8220;potential&#8221; over time: since &#8220;different observers may live differently long lives, be awake different amounts [of] time, &#8230; etc.,&#8221; counting observer-moments rather than observers can give a more accurate measure of the <em>bigness or value</em> of the future. There could, after all, be a large number of observer-moments even if there are relatively few observers, and vice versa.</p><p>The point is that &#262;irkovi&#263; used this concept to argue that <em>we should develop advanced technologies and colonize the universe as soon as possible, given that every passing moment our cosmic endowment of negentropy is going to waste as stars burn up their limited reservoirs of hydrogen</em>. Consequently, by failing to advance technology and colonize space, we could lose &#8212; and maybe have already lost &#8212; <em>a &#8220;substantial fraction of all possible observer-moments [that] humanity could have &#8230; achieved.&#8221;</em> To underline the time-sensitivity of this situation, &#262;irkovi&#263; calculated that if a &#8220;future hypercivilization&#8221; could extract all the energy output of the stars populating the Virgo Supercluster, then &#8220;the number of potentially viable human lifetimes lost per century of postponing &#8230; the onset of galactic colonization is &#8230; 5 &#215; ~10^46.&#8221; Thus, assuming some correlation between the number of lifetimes or observer-moments and the fulfillment of our &#8220;creative potential,&#8221; this provides a very strong prima facie reason against &#8220;an overly conservative approach to space colonization and technologization.&#8221; (Italics and a paragraph break were added to the original text.)</p></blockquote><p>What&#8217;s <em>different</em> between the central arguments and conclusions of Bostrom and &#262;irkovi&#263;? Not a ton. Both calculate the costs of postponing space colonization. Both provide estimates of how many people there could be in the Virgo Supercluster. Both argue that we should therefore accelerate the development of technology and colonize space as soon as possible. Bostrom says that the loss of value with every century of delayed colonization &#8220;boggles the mind,&#8221; while &#262;irkovi&#263; writes in similar language that the loss &#8220;per a century delay in starting the colonization is astonishing by any standard.&#8221;</p><p>The biggest difference is that Bostrom frames the issue in terms of &#8220;existential risk&#8221; (a word that &#262;irkovi&#263; doesn&#8217;t use) and provides a more explicit ethical foundation &#8212; utilitarianism &#8212; to support the conclusion he shares with &#262;irkovi&#263;. For years, I was under the impression that Bostrom was doing a lot more in his paper than recapitulating &#262;irkovi&#263;&#8217;s idea of calculating how many future people there could be and then arguing that we should colonize space ASAP to prevent &#8220;astronomical waste.&#8221;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>7. Paperclip Maximizer</h3><p>If you look up &#8220;<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/paperclip-maximizer-1">paperclip maximizer</a>&#8221; on Wikipedia, you&#8217;ll find <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence#Paperclip_maximizer">a section</a> that opens with this: &#8220;<span>The paperclip maximizer is a </span>thought experiment<span> described by Swedish philosopher </span>Nick Bostrom<span> in 2003.&#8221; But this is misleading, as it suggests that Bostrom is its progenitor. Indeed, while the idea is regularly attributed to him, it appears that Yudkowsky likely first came up with it.</span></p><p><span>In a </span><a href="https://intelligence.org/2018/02/28/sam-harris-and-eliezer-yudkowsky/"><span>2018 interview</span></a><span>, Sam Harris asks Yudkowsky: &#8220;Does this thought experiment originate with Bostrom, or did he take it from somebody else?&#8221; Yudkowsky </span><a href="https://intelligence.org/2018/02/28/sam-harris-and-eliezer-yudkowsky/"><span>replies</span></a><span>: &#8220;As far as I know, it&#8217;s me.&#8221; He adds that it </span><em><span>might</span></em><span> still be Bostrom&#8217;s idea, though he was &#8220;the first one to say &#8216;paperclips&#8217;&#8221; if the idea originated on mailing lists that he was a part of. (No one, to my knowledge, has double-checked this.)</span></p><p>It&#8217;s fine that Yudkowsky doesn&#8217;t much care about attribution, but contrast his openness about this issue to Bostrom&#8217;s. I have never once seen Bostrom suggest in any interview that he might <em>not</em> have invented the thought experiment. (Let me know if I&#8217;m missing something.) He never seems to skip an opportunity to take credit for an idea attributed to him, whether or not that idea is actually his.</p><p>(For some useful information that calls into question this example, see <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best/comment/301739549">this comment</a> from <a href="https://substack.com/@hypnosifl684050">Hypnosifl</a> below.)</p><p>Similarly:</p><h3>8. Pascal&#8217;s Mugging</h3><p>This refers to a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_mugging">thought experiment</a> that shows how maximizing expected value (or utility) &#8212; which some would say is <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rationality-normative-utility/">integral to rationality</a> &#8212; can lead one to make decisions that appear <em>irrational</em>. Expected value is (roughly speaking) what you get when you multiply the probability of an outcome by its value. For example, an outcome with a value of 10 and a probability of .5 has the same <em>expected value</em> as an outcome with a value of 1,000 but a probability of 0.005. (That&#8217;s because 10 x .5 = 5, and 1,000 x 0.005 = 5.)</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_mugging">Pascal&#8217;s mugging</a> results when enormous values are paired with tiny probabilities. Mitigating speculative existential risks provides an example: if there could be 10^58 happy digital people in the future, as Bostrom <a href="https://www.google.nl/books/edition/Superintelligence/1mMJBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=superintelligence+%221058%22&amp;pg=PT124&amp;printsec=frontcover">calculates</a>, then it might be worth spending <em>huge</em> amounts of money mitigating a highly speculative existential risk scenario even if one judges the probability of that scenario to be <em>tiny</em>. That is to say, multiplying the payoff (value) of the outcome (10^58 happy people) by the (low) probability could still yield a <em>very high</em> expected value.</p><p>In 2009, Bostrom published <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/pascal.pdf">a paper on Pascal&#8217;s Mugging</a> in the prestigious philosophy journal <em>Analysis</em>. But the idea was first introduced by Yudkowsky in <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/pascal-s-mugging">a 2007 blog post</a> titled &#8220;Pascal&#8217;s Mugging.&#8221; Bostrom briefly gestures in the direction of this fact in a footnote, saying: &#8220;Related scenarios have recently been discussed informally among various people. Eliezer Yudkowsky named the problem &#8216;Pascal&#8217;s mugging&#8217; in a post on the <em>Overcoming Bias</em> blog.&#8221; Yet it was Bostrom&#8217;s name on the <em>Analysis </em>paper, which he was then able to add to his already &#8220;impressive&#8221; CV, thus boosting his academic &#8220;credibility.&#8221;</p><p>In Yudkowsky&#8217;s <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/w/pascal-s-mugging">version</a>, a mugger says to their intended victim: &#8220;Give me five dollars, or I&#8217;ll use my <em>magic powers</em> from outside the Matrix to run a Turing machine that simulates and kills [an unfathomably large number of] people&#8221; (italics added). Even if one deems the mugger&#8217;s claim to be extremely improbable, this low probability is <em>offset</em> by the hugeness of the number of people who would be killed. Hence, expected value theory implies that one should hand over the money.</p><p>In Bostrom&#8217;s <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/papers/pascal.pdf">version</a>, the mugger says: &#8220;I have <em>magical powers</em>. I can give you any finite amount of money that you might ask for tonight. What&#8217;s more, I can give you any finite amount of Utility that I choose to promise you tonight&#8221; (italics added). Rather than threatening to simulate and kill people, the mugger offers to give the victim a phenomenal amount of money tomorrow if they hand over their wallet right now.</p><p>It&#8217;s fairly well known that Yudkowsky originally devised the scenario, and that Bostrom basically just re-worded and published it a highly reputable philosophy journal. However, I&#8217;d consider it rather odd &#8212; and problematic in an ethical sense &#8212; if a friend of mine wrote a blog post about an idea, and then I took that idea, changed some minor details, and managed to get a major publication out of it. What do you think?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3><strong>A Project of Self-Aggrandizement</strong></h3><p>There are <em>many more</em> examples that could be adduced.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> The point isn&#8217;t to shame Bostrom for drawing from other scholars. Every academic does this, of course &#8212; it&#8217;s the way intellectual progress proceeds. <em>I</em> stand on the shoulders of the giants who came before me, and the next generation will stand on my shoulders by building upon whatever newish ideas (if any) I might have been lucky enough to stumble upon in my brief time here on Earth.</p><p>However, in most cases, academics are pretty good at <em>properly attributing the origins of ideas they further develop or elaborate</em>. I do not see this in Bostrom&#8217;s works at all. My sense, from reading him since ~2005, is that he goes out of his way to <em>hide</em> the fact that many of his &#8220;best&#8221; ideas originated in the work of his colleagues. Nowhere in his writings does he say things like the following:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;Reproducing much of John Leslie&#8217;s taxonomy of extinction hazards, I will enumerate various scenarios that give rise to what I call &#8216;existential risk.&#8217;&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;As Robin Hanson alluded to, it would be very bad if we were to discover life elsewhere in the universe, given the Great Filter framework.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Drawing heavily from the unpublished work of Eliezer Yudkowsky, I will outline an argument for why ASI could bring about the annihilation of humanity.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Developing an idea introduced by Stephen Omohundro, I will examine what I call &#8216;instrumental goals&#8217; that ASI will naturally pursue.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Echoing Max More, this &#8216;letter&#8217; outlines various projects we should pursue in order to become posthuman.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;I will argue, as Milan &#262;irkovi&#263; does, that every century of delayed space colonization results in an astronomical loss of human potential/value.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Etc.</p></li></ul><p>The vast majority of scholars would have included such remarks if they had written Bostrom&#8217;s papers. It&#8217;s <em>standard</em> to not take credit for other people&#8217;s intellectual labor; it&#8217;s <em>common</em> to be generous in citing others. (Plenty of my own scholarship draws from other people, sometimes heavily. But when I do this, I make it clear that I&#8217;m relying on their insights. Nothing special here &#8212; precisely because it&#8217;s standard practice!)</p><p>Yes, Bostrom <em>does</em> cite the people above, but not in a way that properly conveys the extent to which his work takes from them &#8212; or so I would argue. Pair this with the large volume of evidence that Bostrom thinks of himself as a super-genius of almost messianic significance &#8212; he&#8217;s saving not just <em>the world</em>, but the entire <em>future of posthumanity</em> &#8212; and it starts to look like these weren&#8217;t exactly innocent mistakes.</p><p>From my perspective, Bostrom is at best a second-rate thinker whose real talent is repackaging other people&#8217;s insights in accessible-yet-academic language that appeals to a wide audience. <em>This</em> is what he&#8217;s good at &#8212; and we should give him credit for that. As Goertzel notes, the guy &#8220;is a very good writer, mixing academic rigor with occasional color and humor in a classic European style.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> But for originality, creativity, and insight, Bostrom gets a D- in my gradebook.</p><p>One can see this &#8212; or at least I do &#8212; as part of a life-long project of self-aggrandizement. And it&#8217;s been largely successful: Bostrom has become &#8220;one of the most-cited philosophers in the world,&#8221; as he <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">boasts on his website</a>. This is, however, thanks to the success of publications like those mentioned above: <em>Superintelligence </em>(12,152 citations on Google Scholar), &#8220;Existential Risk&#8221; (1,392 citations), &#8220;The Superintelligent Will&#8221; (674 citations), &#8220;Astronomical Waste&#8221; (402 citations), &#8220;Letter from Utopia&#8221; (219 citations), &#8220;Pascal&#8217;s Mugging&#8221; (104 citations), and so on. On <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">his website</a>, Bostrom adds that his</p><blockquote><p>writings have been translated into more than 30 languages; he is a repeat main-stage TED speaker; he has been on Foreign Policy&#8217;s Top 100 Global Thinkers list twice and was included in Prospect&#8217;s World Thinkers list, the youngest person in the top 15.</p></blockquote><p>This all looks rather less impressive when you realize that the <em>reason</em> he has so many &#8220;accomplishments&#8221; is because of publications that drew heavily, often without sufficient attribution (in my opinion), from others.</p><p>***</p><p>While writing this penultimate section, I decided to look into Bostrom&#8217;s boast that he&#8217;s among the most-cited contemporary philosophers. When Gemini answered my Google query about this, it told me the following:</p><blockquote><p><span>The claim that Nick Bostrom was the &#8220;most-cited professional philosopher under the age of 50&#8221; comes directly from </span><strong>his official professional biography</strong><span> used across academic institutions, speaker bureaus, and publishers.</span><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a></p></blockquote><p>Oh, so the biography that he wrote is the citation for a claim in his biography! After more digging, I found <a href="https://dailynous.com/2021/11/29/citation-rankings-of-philosophers-scopus-data/">this ranking from after 2020</a>, which lists him as the 58th most-cited philosopher at the time. Two thoughts:</p><ol><li><p>Does 58 really count as &#8220;<em>one of</em> the most-cited philosophers in the world&#8221;? I&#8217;d have thought this would be reserved for the top 10, or perhaps the top 50. Bostrom is neither in the top 10 nor top 50.</p></li><li><p>I have never once seen any other philosopher <em>above</em> Bostrom on the list bragging about their ranking. (Have you?) Consider that David Chalmers &#8212; who is <em>lionized</em> within philosophy &#8212; is listed as #10 in the rankings. Yet <a href="https://consc.net/bio/">nowhere on his website</a> does he mention this. (According to Google Scholar, Chalmers has <a href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=David+chalmers&amp;btnG=">nearly </a><em><a href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=David+chalmers&amp;btnG=">twice as many</a></em> citations <a href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=nick+bostrom&amp;btnG=">as Bostrom</a>.) The same goes for <a href="https://www.new.ox.ac.uk/timothy-williamson">Timothy Williamson at Oxford</a>, listed as #8. Even Martha Nussbaum, who&#8217;s the most-cited living philosopher, says nothing about it on her <a href="https://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/nussbaum">website</a> or <a href="https://philosophy.uchicago.edu/sites/default/files/2023-02/Academic%20CV_0.pdf">CV</a>. Why? Because, while academics are expected to proudly list their awards and publications, overt self-promotion is often seen as bad form. It&#8217;s cringe-inducing and doesn&#8217;t reflect well on the <em>humility</em> of the individual.</p></li></ol><p>But Bostrom, once again, never misses an opportunity to exaggerate and promote himself. It&#8217;s what his life-long project of self-aggrandizement is all about.</p><h4><strong>Here&#8217;s another example:</strong></h4><p>On his personal website, Bostrom boasts that his book <em>Deep Utopia</em>, which was published with IdeaPress Publishing, a <a href="https://www.ideapresspublishing.com/#5">pay-to-publish company</a>, has won <strong>a whole bunch of awards</strong>. As of August 7, 2026, he <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">writes</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Chinese translation of <em><a href="https://nickbostrom.com/deep-utopia/">Deep Utopia</a></em> is now out. Also the <a href="https://nickbostrom.com/booklink/deep-utopia">second print run in English</a> and the <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Deep-Utopia-Audiobook/B0DK22GN3L">Audiobook</a>. The book has received still more awards.</p></blockquote><p>Such awards include:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png" width="548" height="374.52410901467505" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:652,&quot;width&quot;:954,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:548,&quot;bytes&quot;:250519,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/i/208076643?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fO6q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b6b00f-3059-478b-8799-f85b520b970c_954x652.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://nickbostrom.com">here</a> (August 7, 2026)..</figcaption></figure></div><p>But if you look into these awards, most of them are trivial &#8212; you might even say bullshit &#8212; &#8220;awards&#8221; given to dozens and dozens of books. For example, over 70 books received the &#8220;2024 PenCraft Book Award.&#8221; In the same &#8220;fiction&#8221; category that includes Bostrom&#8217;s book (even though his book is supposed to be nonfiction!), one finds titles like these:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vr8g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vr8g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:320,&quot;width&quot;:213,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Eyes Shout Secrets: Subterfuge can have a soul (A Trust Mystery Suspense Thriller Book 1) (English Edition)&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Eyes Shout Secrets: Subterfuge can have a soul (A Trust Mystery Suspense Thriller Book 1) (English Edition)" title="Eyes Shout Secrets: Subterfuge can have a soul (A Trust Mystery Suspense Thriller Book 1) (English Edition)" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vr8g!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vr8g!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vr8g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vr8g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86fca2b9-733c-45fe-b348-30e21d556ba3_213x320.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg" width="320" height="320" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:320,&quot;width&quot;:320,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;The Spy Who Hated Me: A James Flynn Escapade, Book 5&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The Spy Who Hated Me: A James Flynn Escapade, Book 5" title="The Spy Who Hated Me: A James Flynn Escapade, Book 5" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3mmF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55d018a5-9f56-4f80-868b-5b0b5ec7f73c_320x320.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WWOs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67c47c57-217f-45d5-ae11-470cb2f9adfc_1212x1094.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Another &#8220;award&#8221; that Bostrom&#8217;s book won is the &#8220;Living Now Book Awards.&#8221; It&#8217;s official website <a href="https://livingnowawards.com">says</a>:</p><blockquote><p><span>The </span><em><strong>Living Now Book Awards</strong></em><span> feature over 30 categories, celebrating exceptional lifestyle, homestyle, personal development, wellness, and Christian-themed books</span></p></blockquote><p>Another website, independentpublisher.com, <a href="https://independentpublisher.com/article.php?page=2460#:~:text=The%20Living%20Now%20Book%20Awards,to%20relationships%20and%20mature%20living.">describes</a> the award as follows:</p><blockquote><p>The Living Now Book Awards celebrate the innovation and creativity of newly published books that enhance the quality of our lives, from cooking and fitness to relationships and mature living.</p></blockquote><p>For an academic, this is an embarrassment.</p><p>Moving on to the &#8220;Independent Press Awards&#8221; that Bostrom also boasts of having won, this is what you&#8217;ll see if you click on their website. Amid dozens and dozens of books, you&#8217;ll see Bostrom&#8217;s about halfway through:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;8bb1999d-bdcf-4a68-bf8d-af392132e849&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>The obvious interpretation of Bostrom&#8217;s website (screenshot above) is that his book was <em>singled-out</em> as an outstanding work of literature by various award-granting groups. But this is completely misleading: these are, again, bullshit awards given to tons of books.</p><p>Yet Bostrom can&#8217;t resist mentioning them because &#8212; like Donald Trump &#8212; he is an insecure narcissist who&#8217;s obsessed with exaggerating his accomplishments for the purposes of self-aggrandizement. Trump has <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40427357">his fake TIME magazine cover</a>; Bostrom has these awards, his fabricated academic &#8220;record&#8221; in Sweden, his thousands of citations for papers containing unoriginal ideas, etc. etc.</p><h3>Why Has No One Said Anything?</h3><p>An interesting question is <em>why</em> the people from whom Bostrom has borrowed so heavily without proper attribution have been <em>okay</em> with this. Literally no one, to my knowledge, has complained about intellectual plagiarism. Why not? I brought this up to a former researcher at Bostrom&#8217;s Future of Humanity Institute (FHI), who responded as follows:</p><blockquote><p>My view, for what it&#8217;s worth, is that Bostrom has played fast and loose with the ideas of people who were happy to be plagiarized because they thought &#8220;he&#8217;s going to be a big Oxford philosopher and having someone like that in our pocket will be good for us and the things we care about so let&#8217;s all just go along with it.&#8221; I.e. I think maybe you [&#201;mile] are not being hard enough on the people who have let Bostrom plagiarize them without protest, because they only did it because it was in their interests to do so, they weren&#8217;t just being charitable to a sub-genius with an ego trip!</p></blockquote><p>On this view, <em>personal self-interest</em> is why no one has spoken out. That seems plausible to me. However, the fact that others are okay with Bostrom taking their ideas doesn&#8217;t make it <em>right</em>. Consider a friend of mine who writes an excellent philosophy paper and then says to me (in some parallel universe): &#8220;I know you need another publication for tenure, so feel free to put your name on this one and publish it as yours. We&#8217;ll never mention this to anyone.&#8221; If I were to publish their paper as mine, I would still be committing academic fraud &#8212; even if I had their full permission. Standards don&#8217;t dissolve if consent is granted.</p><p>So, it&#8217;s a bit frustrating that no one has said anything. If the people above <em>were</em> to publicly complain, then (a) they&#8217;d have a <em>very good case</em> for being upset, and (b) the result could well be a significant scandal for Bostrom. As far as I know, this article is the first to lay out the evidence and make that case. Perhaps it will inspire someone to speak out, especially now that Bostrom is no longer at Oxford.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> We&#8217;ll see.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><strong>Have you come across important examples that I&#8217;ve missed? Please do share them below (or feel free to email me).</strong> As always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p><h2>ADDITIONAL CONCERNS (added August 6, 2026)</h2><p>In <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Utopia-Meaning-Solved-World/dp/1646871642/">Deep Utopia</a></em>, Bostrom explicitly thanks ChatGPT-4 and Claude 2 &#8220;for extensive comments on the manuscript.&#8221; Curious, I ran the abstract of his recent paper &#8220;<a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostroms-pro-superintelligence">Optimal Timing for Superintelligence</a>&#8221; (which argues that we should build ASI even if there&#8217;s up to a 97% chance of everyone on Earth dying) through Pangram and another AI detection program. This was the result:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FRbZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c376407-977e-4290-902d-2c2ce0e746ae_2790x1478.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FRbZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c376407-977e-4290-902d-2c2ce0e746ae_2790x1478.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FRbZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c376407-977e-4290-902d-2c2ce0e746ae_2790x1478.png 848w, 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I haven&#8217;t checked the rest of his paper, or his <em>Deep Utopia</em>, because I don&#8217;t have the money to pay for Pangram &#8212; but if others are inclined to do this, please let me know what the results are.</p><p>Also, user <a href="https://substack.com/@hypnosifl684050">Hypnosifl</a> added some additional examples <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/nick-bostrom-took-many-of-his-best/comment/301737211">in a comment below</a>, which I am reproducing here in full:</p><blockquote><p><span>Bostrom&#8217;s anthropic arguments all revolve around what he called the &#8220;self-sampling assumption&#8221; (SSA), so also might be worth noting that although he coined the term, John Leslie&#8217;s 1992 paper &#8220;Time and the anthropic principle&#8221; (doi is 10.1093/mind/101.403.521 if you want to look it up on sci-hub) lays out the basic idea on p. 523:</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Observers can most expect to find themselves in the spatiotemporal regions containing most of them.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Again, suppose that almost all intelligent life is based on water and exists on planets when many stars still shine. ... It should then come as no surprise to us that we are on a watery planet and see a starry sky.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;Compare the case of geographical position. You develop amnesia in a windowless room. Where should you think yourself more likely to be: in Little Binding with a tiny population, or in London? Suppose you remember that Little Binding&#8217;s population is fifty while London&#8217;s is ten million, and suppose you had nothing but those figures to guide you. (You did not recall ever having been in either place; you had no theory that London fogs induce amnesia; and so on.) Then you should think that you are in London. Suppose, by contrast, you see no grounds to prefer the belief that you are in the larger of the two places. Forced to bet on the one or on the other, you bet you are in Little Binding. If ten per cent of the people in the two places developed amnesia and betted as you had done, then there would be one million losers and only five winners. So, it would seem, betting on London is more rational. The right estimate of your chances of being there rather than in Little Binding, on the evidence available to you, could well be reckoned as ten million to fifty.</span></p><p><span>&#8220;What if the amnesia gives you doubts about whether London&#8217;s population is the larger? Finding yourself in London should reduce the doubts: with the larger population, London would be prima facie where you would be more likely to be. Again, if London and Little Binding were the only places you could be, then finding yourself in Little Binding could suggest strongly that London was a fiction, if its fictitiousness had no great initial improbability.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Leslie attributes the idea to Brandon Carter (the astrophysicist who coined the term &#8216;anthropic principle&#8217;) who was implicitly using this form of anthropic reasoning when he formulated the doomsday argument. Leslie also used the language of &#8220;sampling&#8221; in his 1997 paper &#8220;Observer-relative chances and the Doomsday Argument&#8221; (doi 10.1080/00201749708602461), writing on p. 429 of an example with a hundred individuals where &#8216;In effect, each can treat herself as a sample drawn at random from the hundred&#8217;, and that an external observer lacks the kind of first-person information that the hundred subjects of the experiment have, writing that this is &#8216;information which can be treated as the equivalent of having sampled the hundred randomly&#8217;. P. 436 brings up Eckhardt&#8217;s term for this type of reasoning, the &#8216;human randomness assumption&#8217; (from Eckhardt&#8217;s 1997 paper &#8216;A Shooting-Room View of Doomsday&#8217;, doi 10.2307/2564582, which defines the assumption on p. 248 as &#8216;We can validly consider our birth rank as generated by random or equiprobable sampling from the collection of all persons who ever live&#8217;), but Leslie brings up his own view that we can&#8217;t use this type of reasoning &#8216;if the world is importantly indeterministic&#8217; (I think his argument here also depends on what philosophers call the &#8216;A-theory of time&#8217; with an objective present and a potentially open future, as opposed to the &#8216;B-theory&#8217; where future facts are just as fixed as past ones and the &#8216;present&#8217; is purely an observer-relative concept like &#8216;here&#8217; is for space).</span></p><p><span>Bostrom I think claims too much credit for the originality of the SSA in his 2002 book Anthropic Bias--when he first introduces it at </span><a href="https://anthropic-principle.com/q=book/chapter_3/#3d"><span>https://anthropic-principle.com/q=book/chapter_3/#3d</span></a><span> he claims that Carter and Leslie only discussed the &#8220;weak&#8221; and &#8220;strong&#8221; anthropic principles which say that in a multiverse you&#8217;ll find yourself in one of the universes that allows intelligent life, but do not say you are more likely to be in a universe that contains more observers. And in chapter 6 at </span><a href="https://anthropic-principle.com/q=book/chapter_6/"><span>https://anthropic-principle.com/q=book/chapter_6/</span></a><span> he says Leslie discussed only a &#8216;vague&#8217; approximation to the idea: &#8216;Leslie talks of the principle that, lacking evidence to the contrary, one should think of one&#8217;s position as &#8220;fairly typical rather than highly untypical&#8221;. SSA can be viewed as an explication of this rather vague idea.&#8217; His only mention of Eckhardt is footnote 2 at </span><a href="https://anthropic-principle.com/q=book/chapter_7/"><span>https://anthropic-principle.com/q=book/chapter_7/</span></a><span> which cites him as one of many who have objected to the Doomsday Argument, but he does not mention Eckhardt&#8217;s definition of the &#8216;human randomness assumption&#8217; which is just the SSA applied to human history.</span></p><p><span>Bostrom did give both Leslie and Eckhardt more credit for ideas basically equivalent to the SSA in his 2000 paper &#8220;Observer-Relative Chances in Anthropic Reasoning?&#8221; (doi 10.1023/A:1005551304409) which to me suggests the exaggeration of the originality of the SSA in his book is dishonest, or at best sloppy scholarship. On the first page of this paper Bostrom cites Leslie&#8217;s 1997 paper, and says &#8216;In a recent paper,1 John Leslie argues that a version of the weak anthropic principle gives rise to paradoxical kind of observer-relative chances ... The anthropic assumption that is used in deriving these observer-relative chances is that: Any observer should regard herself as a random sample from (some suitable subset) of the set of all observers. We can call it the self-sampling assumption.2&#8217; And footnote 2 at the end of the sentence also cites Eckhardt&#8217;s &#8216;human randomness assumption&#8217; by name, though he criticizes this formulation because it only applies to humans and not other forms of intelligence. (But he does note in that footnote that Carter&#8217;s version of anthropic reasoning did not have this restriction, and I&#8217;d also point to the quote about most aliens being based on water from Leslie&#8217;s 1992 paper above, so this nitpick about Eckhardt&#8217;s version is not enough to claim his own SSA as an original idea.)</span></p></blockquote><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Simon Knutsson, the author, <a href="https://www.simonknutsson.com/problems-in-effective-altruism-and-existential-risk-and-what-to-do-about-them/#Potentially_dishonest_self-promotion">writes</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I have a bachelor&#8217;s and two master&#8217;s degrees from the same university in Gothenburg, Sweden, and I have lived almost all of my life in Sweden. I have never heard of any national record related to undergraduate performance. I mentioned his statement &#8220;Undergraduate performance set national record in Sweden&#8221; to a few people in Sweden who are familiar with the university system in Sweden. <strong>One person laughed out loud, another found his claim amusing, and a third found it weird</strong>. I called the University of Gothenburg on Oct. 21, 2019, but the person there was not aware of any such records. On Oct. 21, 2019, I wrote Bostrom and asked him about his record. On Oct. 23, 2019, he replied and gave me permission to share his reply in public, the relevant part of which reads as follows:</p><p><em>The record in question refers to the number of courses simultaneously pursued at one point during my undergraduate studies, which &#8211; if memory serves, which it might not since it is more than 25 years ago &#8211; was the equivalent of about three and a half programs of full time study, I think 74 &#8220;study points.&#8221; (I also studied briefly at Umea Univ during the same two-year period I was enrolled in Gothenburg.) <strong>The basis for thinking this might be a record is simply that at the time I asked around in some circles of other ambitious students, and the next highest course load anybody had heard of was sufficiently lower than what I was taking that I thought statistically it looked like it was likely a record</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>Bostrom has repeatedly and conspicuously boasted that he set a &#8220;national record,&#8221; including <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150218154516/https://nickbostrom.com/cv.pdf">on his official CV</a>, and this is what he bases it on? What an arrogant bullshitter!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that I am quoting some of these. Furthermore, the order that Bostrom presents them might not correspond to the order in which I&#8217;m presenting them, and I have &#8212; for the purposes of highlighting similarities &#8212; combined a few risks into the same category, e.g., deliberate misuse of nanotech and nanotech accidents are distinct categories in Bostrom&#8217;s paper, though I&#8217;ve listed them together here.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that there is no such thing as a &#8220;supervolcano,&#8221; despite <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano">what Wikipedia says</a>. There are, however, some volcanoes capable of producing <em>supereruptions</em>. I was corrected by one of the leading volcanologists in the world after he read portions of my 2024 book!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Footnote 2 applies to this list from Leslie, too.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am here combining 6 and 7 in Leslie&#8217;s list of &#8220;Group 2: Man-made disasters.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have not included every potential threat that Leslie specifies. Check out the relevant chapter in his book to compare.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Bostrom and Leslie even approach the topic from a similar utilitarian perspective (Leslie is an &#8220;ideal&#8221; utilitarian), though this perspective is more clearly evident in Bostrom&#8217;s 2003 paper &#8220;Astronomical Waste,&#8221; discussed below.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>An archived version can be found <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201101024117/https://www.technologyreview.com/2008/04/22/220999/where-are-they/">here</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Along similar lines, Omohundro also identifies the following as an AI drive: &#8220;AIs will try to prevent counterfeit utility&#8221; (e.g., they will avoid <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirehead_(science_fiction)#:~:text=In%20science%20fiction%2C%20wireheading%20is,normal%20reward%20process%20and%20artificially">wireheading</a>). Overall, he enumerates six drives in total, though on my reading these overlap in various ways.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am here combining #1 and #2 in Omohundro&#8217;s list of AI drives.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>EDIT (26/7/2026): Note that &#262;irkovi&#263; thanks Bostrom, among other people, in the Acknowledgments section of his paper: &#8220;The manuscript enormously benefited from discussions with Nick Bostrom, Petar Gruji&#263; and Fred C. Adams.&#8221; But he does not say that he and Bostrom came up with the idea together, only that his paper benefitted from chats with Bostrom, as well as the physicist Petar Gruji&#263; and astrophysicist Fred Adams.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;ve said nothing about his papers on transhumanism and human enhancement, for example. Many of these draw (heavily) from other transhumanists like Max More, though without making this sufficiently explicit.</p><p>Furthermore, I&#8217;ve been struck by how similar Bostrom&#8217;s &#8220;simulation argument&#8221; is to versions of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain"><span>Boltzmann brain</span></a> problem, the latter of which has been around for quite a while and gained attention <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0208013"><span>shortly before</span></a> Bostrom published his &#8220;Simulation Argument&#8221; paper. Bostrom reasons that if our posthuman descendants decide to run a large number of simulations of their ancestors &#8212; <em>us</em> &#8212; then the total number of simulated people may vastly outnumber the total number of real, actual people living in &#8220;base reality&#8221; (i.e., non-simulated reality). If you then apply the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_indifference">Principle of Indifference</a> to this, you must conclude that you are far more likely to be in a computer simulation than in base reality.</p><p>The Boltzmann brain problem <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/1702.00850">is this</a>: if the universe lasts infinitely (or at least extremely) long, then over the course of endless eons there will be an infinite number of human brains that arise from random thermodynamic fluctuations. These brains will have fully intact memories and perceptions, and the exact same subjective experiences that you have, right now. Consequently, the total number of such &#8220;Boltzmann brains&#8221; will vastly exceed the total number of <em>real</em> brains. You can then apply the same logic as above to get the conclusion that you&#8217;re far more likely to be a Boltzmann brain at the moment than a real brain.</p><p>Bostrom claims to have studied theoretical physics, so presumably he was aware of the Boltzmann brain phenomenon. I&#8217;m curious whether this is what led him to apply the same reasoning to the issue of computer simulations, despite him not mentioning it. At this point, my article has, I think, clearly demonstrated that Bostrom isn&#8217;t in the habit of citing others, because doing so would make his ideas appear less original. I don&#8217;t know if the simulation argument is an example of reformulating an idea within a different context (which itself is novel), but I do wonder.</p><p>Incidentally, unlike the Boltzmann brain argument, Bostrom&#8217;s simulation argument <em>doesn&#8217;t work</em>. He writes that &#8220;the basic idea of this paper can be expressed roughly as follows: If there were a substantial chance that our civilization will ever get to the posthuman stage and run many ancestor-simulations, then how come you are not living in such a simulation?&#8221; The obvious problem is that if <em>our civilization</em> were to &#8220;advance&#8221; to a posthuman stage and run a huge number of simulations, the Principle of Indifference wouldn&#8217;t apply <em>to us</em>. Why? Because we&#8217;d <em>know</em> that we&#8217;re on the same level of reality as our posthuman successors, and if we&#8217;re on the same level, <em>they</em> can&#8217;t be simulating <em>us</em>. The Principle of Indifference applies only when you have <em>no additional information</em> for determining which of several possibilities applies. But in this case, we <em>would have information</em> about which level of reality we&#8217;re on &#8212; namely, the <em>same level</em> as the posthumans running a bunch of simulations. That means, once again, that we can&#8217;t be in one of their simulations. I&#8217;m honestly rather shocked that Bostrom&#8217;s paper made it through peer review!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Although some of Bostrom&#8217;s writing, to be blunt, is terrible. For example, his &#8220;Letter from Utopia&#8221; is so cringe-inducing to me that I have struggled mightily to read the entire short essay in one go. (This was true even when I was a diehard TESCREAList.) It&#8217;s authored by someone who is wildly overconfident in their ability to write beautifully and poetically. It&#8217;s the work of a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetaster">poetaster</a> who doesn&#8217;t know he&#8217;s a poetaster.</p><p>There are many examples (read it for yourself), but here are a few to give you a sense:</p><blockquote><p><em>What is Suffering in Utopia?</em> Suffering is the salt trace left on the cheeks of the oldtimers who were around before.</p><p><em>What is Tragedy in Utopia?</em> It is tragedy enough when Mr. Snowman melts in the spring. &#8230;</p><p><em>What is Death in Utopia?</em> Death is the darkness that ultimately surrounds all life.</p><p><em>What is Guilt in Utopia?</em> Guilt is our knowledge that we could have created Utopia sooner.</p></blockquote><p>Oh god help me.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It adds: &#8220;Because citation metrics by age are not tracked by a single official body, this description is an aggregated data point originating from Google Scholar rankings for analytic philosophers.&#8221; (I&#8217;ll compare Bostrom&#8217;s Google Scholar citations to David Chalmers&#8217; in a moment.) 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fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Hmm.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Due in part to a <a href="https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nick-bostrom-longtermism-and-the-eternal-return-of-eugenics-2/">racist email of his that I uncovered in late 2022</a>.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Dean Ball Rejects "AI Communism" and Gaia Continues to Fight Back]]></title><description><![CDATA[(1,800 words)]]></description><link>https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dean-ball-rejects-ai-communism-and</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dean-ball-rejects-ai-communism-and</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Émile P. Torres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 17:37:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpbG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F946b6afa-cf95-4938-9b3c-eecd765c2904_960x1280.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month, I published <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dean-ball-on-pro-extinctionism-europe?utm_source=publication-search">an article discussing Dean Ball</a>, former Senior Policy Advisor on AI for the Trump administration. He currently works at OpenAI, and <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dean-ball-on-pro-extinctionism-europe?utm_source=publication-search%5C"><span>said in a recent interview</span></a> that we may be</p><blockquote><p>living through this kind of eclipse of the human intellect, where we&#8217;re in the final days of humans being the primary actors on this planet. And that soon, machines will rise. There is this irony in that I think that whole transformation, I think humans &#8230; will actually go through a very &#8220;main-character energy&#8221; period of time, as that transformation occurs, even if it ultimately does mean that the machines ultimately become the primary actors, there&#8217;ll be this period.</p></blockquote><p>He claims that he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;necessarily believe this,&#8221; yet I don&#8217;t get the impression that he&#8217;s particularly bothered by what he describes as &#8220;this final flowering of humanity in the birthing of the machine intelligence.&#8221;</p><p>Anyway, he went viral over the past week for a rather controversial tweet about the repercussions of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO_21NC7O-s">Kimi K3</a>, a powerful new AI model &#8212; in fact, the largest open-source AI in the world right now &#8212; developed by the Beijing-based startup Moonshot.</p><div id="youtube2-gO_21NC7O-s" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;gO_21NC7O-s&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gO_21NC7O-s?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>This model rivals the best models released by AI companies in the US like Anthropic and OpenAI. As ABC reports:</p><blockquote><p>K3&#8217;s release has also <a href="https://apnews.com/article/stocks-markets-ai-iran-trump-rates-65449e9565fba441a617f9517e097f5a"><span>put pressure on</span></a> stocks of American technology titans on worries that more affordable Chinese AI models may undercut the pricing power and demand at the U.S. AI companies, even as U.S.-led restrictions have already <a href="https://apnews.com/article/ai-chips-nvidia-huawei-china-1ae6228c4928ddbb43f984e9b38f49dd"><span>barred China</span></a> from accessing some of the world&#8217;s advanced technologies, including the most cutting-edge chips.</p></blockquote><h4>***</h4><p>Enter Mr. Ball, who <a href="https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412">said on X</a> that Kimi K3 is &#8220;a very good model,&#8221; and &#8220;its performance [can&#8217;t] be explained away by distillation or anything like that.&#8221;</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><em><span>Distillation</span></em><span> is the process of training an inferior model on the outputs of a superior one, thus </span><a href="https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks"><span>enabling competitors</span></a><span> &#8220;to acquire powerful capabilities from other labs in a fraction of the time, and at a fraction of the cost.&#8221; This process, utilized by Chinese companies like DeepSeek and Moonshot, has led US companies like Anthropic to complain that Chinese companies are </span><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/23/us-ai-anthropic-china"><span>essentially stealing their intellectual property</span></a><span> &#8212; despite the fact that US companies trained their model on vast amounts of copyrighted material (including </span><em><span>my own</span></em><span> intellectual property, namely, </span><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1032159065?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback"><span>my 2024 book</span></a><span>). Anthropic itself recently </span><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us-judge-approves-anthropics-15-billion-settlement-copyright-lawsuit-2026-07-20/"><span>paid out $1.5 billion</span></a><span> in damages for having illegally pirated copyrighted material from shadow libraries like LibGen. The irony couldn&#8217;t be thicker.</span></p></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">I currently have 100 paid subscribers (thank you <em>so much</em> for your support!). I need a total of 200 to pay all of my bills. If you happen to have an extra $7 to spare each month, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. If you don&#8217;t, I&#8217;m nonetheless incredibly grateful for your interest in this newsletter. :-) Thanks so much, friends.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Ball <a href="https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412">continued</a>:</p><blockquote><p>One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a &#8220;public good&#8221; which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of &#8220;digital public infrastructure.&#8221; This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape, but I&#8217;ve never met an open-weight models advocate who doesn&#8217;t ultimately concede this is where things end.</p></blockquote><p>Oh no, &#8220;AI communism&#8221;! AI becoming a &#8220;public good&#8221; provided to everyone by the government &#8212; as opposed to companies like OpenAI maintaining a stranglehold on the technology. Which is more of a &#8220;dystopian hellscape&#8221;?</p><p>Ball <a href="https://x.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412">adds</a> that he&#8217;s surprised China is okay with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_artificial_intelligence">open-source AI models</a>, given the &#8220;potential risks,&#8221; though he suspects that &#8220;the reason they are is 75% explained by strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI).&#8221;</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><span>Translation: Folks in China don&#8217;t seem to believe that LLMs (</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_language_model"><span>large language models</span></a><span>) are on the verge of attaining AGI-capabilities, whereby they &#8212; </span><a href="https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/07/agi-may-be-impossible-to-define-and-thats-a-multibillion-dollar-problem/"><span>depending on the definition</span></a><span> &#8212; become as &#8220;intelligent&#8221; as humans in every cognitive domain of interest: scientific research, technological innovation, social interaction, and so on. This is (at least part of) what being &#8220;AGI-pilled&#8221; means: believing that we&#8217;re about to create AGI and that this will mark a fundamental new epoch in human (nay, cosmic) history.</span></p></div><p><span>Rather, China seems to have the far more level-headed view that generative AI, powered by LLMs, is merely a &#8220;tool&#8221; that people can use for particular tasks. That&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t appear especially worried about open-source AI models that are &#8220;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_artificial_intelligence"><span>freely available</span></a><span> to use, study, modify, and share.&#8221; They aren&#8217;t concerned that someone is going to alter these systems and attain AGI, thus sparking the techno-rapture (i.e., Singularity).</span></p><h4><span>***</span></h4><p>As you might imagine, many people were highly critical of Ball&#8217;s remarks, often mockingly so. For example:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/dillon_mulroy/status/2078519940106051830&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;actually an insane thing for openai&#8217;s head of strategy to publicly say&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;dillon_mulroy&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dillon Mulroy&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1600260645378719744/SPHEEyC-_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-18T16:39:05.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HNhi3pQXgAAcYjV.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/iGF4caZlh7&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Some observations on Kimi: \n\n1. It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that. In agentic coding sessions, it seems pretty much on par with the best public models of Q1 2026. In my fairly limited use, it also&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1997065021491130368/X76ALSbp_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:358,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:982,&quot;like_count&quot;:12463,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1439666,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/DeepDishEnjoyer/status/2078296473251254329&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;lmao openai admits it does not want fully automated luxury space communism, they are openly admitting they want technofeudalism where they own everything&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;DeepDishEnjoyer&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;peepeepoopoo&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2046358613820850176/s0-AOm7F_normal.png&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-18T01:51:06.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HNeXbrRX0AAcezW.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/3Ibp02ldlh&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Some observations on Kimi: \n\n1. It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that. In agentic coding sessions, it seems pretty much on par with the best public models of Q1 2026. In my fairly limited use, it also&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1997065021491130368/X76ALSbp_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:126,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:661,&quot;like_count&quot;:6551,&quot;impression_count&quot;:265267,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kkgg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff68213b7-5630-42a1-85cf-483ac00d7749_1196x918.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="icon-noB79L"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image buttonBase-GK1x3M"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2 icon-noB79L"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From <a href="https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/2078500257663468003">here</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>David Sacks &#8212; </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investor"><span>angel investor</span></a><span> in Facebook, SpaceX, and Palantir; former COO of PayPal; and Special Advisor for AI and Crypto for the Trump administration &#8212; </span><a href="https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2078826291638522127"><span>lambasted Ball&#8217;s suggestion</span></a><span> that &#8220;the Trump Administration will at some point realize that their best strategy here would be to create large amounts of regulatory risk around the use of open-weight Chinese models.&#8221; (Meaning that businesses could lose out if they use a Chinese model that, say, has backdoors allowing the Chinese government to interfere &#8212; or something like that. If the US government alters regulations that punish businesses with such vulnerabilities, those businesses will suffer. This is the threat of regulatory risk.)</span></p><p><span>In response, Sacks </span><a href="https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2078826291638522127"><span>accused</span></a><span> Ball of potentially &#8220;confessing to a regulatory capture strategy&#8221; that would ultimately benefit Ball&#8217;s company, OpenAI, by pressuring US companies to eschew much cheaper Chinese models. He writes:</span></p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2078826291638522127&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;m not sure whether Dean Ball is confessing to a regulatory capture strategy or simply predicting this will happen (he now says the latter). Either way, the weaponization of regulatory uncertainty as a competitive tool should be completely unacceptable.\n\nHe argues there&#8217;s no&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;DavidSacks&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;David Sacks&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1879600809693917185/GkBxdTd9_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-19T12:56:25.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HNl5flEaAAAESoc.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/0eLk6ltU0F&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Some observations on Kimi: \n\n1. It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that. In agentic coding sessions, it seems pretty much on par with the best public models of Q1 2026. In my fairly limited use, it also&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1997065021491130368/X76ALSbp_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:286,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:453,&quot;like_count&quot;:4001,&quot;impression_count&quot;:780105,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Still others pointed out that &#8220;communism&#8221; &#8212; currently the Trump&#8217;s <a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/07/10/nx-s1-5876512/trump-communist-messaging-economy-democrats">new favorite term-of-abuse for anyone left of center</a> &#8212; was also once used to denigrate Linux, an <em>open-source</em> operating system:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/qualiascript/status/2078491662754472427&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;it's 2001. open-source Linux is better than Windows on servers. Steve Ballmer calls Linux \&quot;cancer\&quot;, \&quot;communist\&quot; and asks for it to be regulated away\n\nit's 2026. open-source LLMs are better than ChatGPT/Claude on costs. they are called \&quot;decelerationist\&quot; and \&quot;communist\&quot;&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;qualiascript&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;alco &#8866; &#42606;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1969877431180795904/Id5xFyhY_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-18T14:46:43.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Some observations on Kimi: \n\n1. It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that. In agentic coding sessions, it seems pretty much on par with the best public models of Q1 2026. In my fairly limited use, it also&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1997065021491130368/X76ALSbp_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:55,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:761,&quot;like_count&quot;:7188,&quot;impression_count&quot;:144590,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p><span>Even more, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Michael"><span>Emil Michael</span></a><span> &#8212; Trump&#8217;s selection for </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Secretary_of_Defense_for_Research_and_Engineering"><span>Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering</span></a><span> &#8212; posted a tweet in which he literally calls Ball a &#8220;supreme village idiot&#8221; and says that Ball &#8220;has perhaps the biggest gap between actual IQ and his own perceived IQ of anyone in the industry (about 40 points).&#8221; He writes:</span></p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/USWREMichael/status/2078924719538262107&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Every industry/ecosystem has its supreme village idiot. <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@deanwball</span> is that for AI. Congress passed a law in 2026 that restricted some uses of DeepSeek/High Flyer with waivers permitted. Only those models.  It went through the democratic process not some Deep State scheme like he&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;USWREMichael&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Under Secretary of War Emil Michael&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1934599717067079680/Rg6bteNa_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-19T19:27:32.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;@DavidSacks The departments of war, transportation, energy, agriculture, commerce, NASA, and Congress have all blocked their employees from using Chinese AI, citing ill-justified claims of danger. This already has sent a message to regulated firms. All of this happened during this admin.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;deanwball&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Dean W. Ball&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1997065021491130368/X76ALSbp_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:85,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:84,&quot;like_count&quot;:1339,&quot;impression_count&quot;:319311,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p><em><span>Oh my god</span></em><span>. I share all of this mainly for the amusement value. I have never been impressed with Ball (though apparently, to my surprise, </span><a href="https://x.com/TaylorLorenz/status/2078510806455734674"><span>Taylor Lorenz has</span></a><span>), and now he&#8217;s really stepped in it. The fiasco &#8212; especially the fact that a major Trump official weighed in to insult Ball &#8212; certainly doesn&#8217;t help OpenAI, a </span><a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/openais-lead-is-dwindling-fast"><span>company that&#8217;s been struggling</span></a><span> given the success of Anthropic&#8217;s Fable and the endless bad press surrounding its &#8220;</span><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted"><span>sociopathic</span></a><span>&#8221; leader, Sam Altman. It will be interesting to see if Ball still has a job in a couple of weeks.</span></p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/burkov/status/2066964839071969490?s=61&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;OpenAI's market share drops below 50% for the first time. Google is quickly eating into it.\n\nThe pure LLM business doesn't have stickiness. Regular people don't see a difference between ChatGPT and Gemini, and because they already have their entire online ecosystem with Google, &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;burkov&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;BURKOV&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1906075596808998913/6xpSGRnv_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-06-16T19:23:14.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HK9Ut7TWQAAcA8y.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/RyQB4RERTv&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:89,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:108,&quot;like_count&quot;:737,&quot;impression_count&quot;:117296,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><h4>***</h4><p>For another chuckle, here&#8217;s a tweet from someone else <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/dean-ball-on-pro-extinctionism-europe?utm_source=publication-search">I&#8217;ve written about</a>:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/tszzl/status/2078570255493087255&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;new models strongly reminiscent of reading nick land or paglia or any other sort of philosopher on 200mg adderall if they were also Linux sysadmins&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;tszzl&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;roon&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1918970926668054530/fy-ZsgJ7_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-18T19:59:01.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;the fable / sol summaries are getting more and more absurdly information-dense\n1 in every 5 words is a novel compound word (ex: &#8220;rate-adjacent&#8221;) which itself is the model&#8217;s invented stand-in for a metaconcept that it developed that i need to interrogate it about\nhow to fix this?&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;PandaAshwinee&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ashwinee Panda&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1848319860029235200/j4vGUH7G_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:84,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:66,&quot;like_count&quot;:1627,&quot;impression_count&quot;:140192,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia">Camille Paglia</a> is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia#Climate_change">climate denier</a> who <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia#Child_sexuality">supports NAMBLA</a> (!!), and if you&#8217;ve ever read <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land">Nick Land</a>&#8217;s work (as I regrettably have) you&#8217;ll know that it&#8217;s a mess of mostly incoherent drivel dressed up in grandiloquent language. So, roon seems to be saying that the new AI models are terrible at thinking and writing. I agree.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>***</h4><p><span>Bad news on the climate front continues to flood social media like a torrential downpour. A close acquaintance of mine in Virginia recently sent me pictures taken around their house during a Code Purple air-quality warning, meaning that the air is &#8220;very unhealthy to breathe in.&#8221; That&#8217;s worse than a Code Red, but not as bad as a Code Maroon &#8212; the </span><a href="https://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/natural-disasters/code-purple-air-quality.htm"><span>most extreme category</span></a><span> whereby simply breathing is &#8220;hazardous&#8221; to </span><em><span>everyone</span></em><span>, resulting in &#8220;emergency conditions.&#8221;</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3cOa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2283bb93-5e0e-48b6-bf96-26727e60b07f_1922x1442.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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That means their windows are literally covered in water despite it not raining, as seen below. Absolutely wild stuff:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpbG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F946b6afa-cf95-4938-9b3c-eecd765c2904_960x1280.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpbG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F946b6afa-cf95-4938-9b3c-eecd765c2904_960x1280.heic 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mpbG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F946b6afa-cf95-4938-9b3c-eecd765c2904_960x1280.heic 848w, 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Some of the footage of the fires is truly terrifying to watch &#8212; the <em>huge wall of fire</em> shown in clips below elicits a deep, primordial fear in me, along the lines of videos of large tsunamis and mile-wide tornadoes. Gaia is <em>pissed off</em> at humanity and letting us know this in the most violent ways.</p><div id="youtube2-E7ncJlSaVCU" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;E7ncJlSaVCU&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/E7ncJlSaVCU?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><span>Here in the Alps, the heatwave has subsided but the fields remain brown and the mountains mostly bereft of snow. My CO2 detector indicates that there are 432 ppm (parts per million) of CO2 in the ambient air &#8212; to put this in perspective, the Pleistocene (a geological epoch before the Holocene began some 12,000 years ago) contained between </span><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12357-5"><span>183 and 292 ppm of CO2</span></a><span>. This is when our </span><em><span>Homo </span></em><span>ancestors first emerged in the grassy savanna of East Africa. The last time Earth&#8217;s atmosphere contained more than 400 ppm was </span><a href="https://www.rmets.org/event/pliocene-last-time-earth-had-400-ppm-atmospheric-co2"><span>over 3 million years ago</span></a><span>, in the Pliocene, when creatures like this first evolved:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-KEW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eb29a02-d4a7-4aed-ae18-6d36d2908c0f_833x337.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-KEW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2eb29a02-d4a7-4aed-ae18-6d36d2908c0f_833x337.png 424w, 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15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Of note is that some studies suggest that higher amounts of CO2 in the air results in significant &#8212; albeit reversible &#8212; cognitive deficits, meaning that, as a </span><em><span>Yale Climate Connections</span></em><span> article </span><a href="https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2016/07/indoor-co2-dumb-and-dumber/"><span>put it</span></a><span>, climate change is literally making us &#8220;dumber.&#8221; (And at exactly the moment when we need our brains most to overcome the monumental challenges of the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycrisis"><span>polycrisis</span></a><span>!) A more recent discussion of this unfortunate phenomenon can be found </span><a href="https://www.colorado.edu/mechanical/2020/04/21/continued-co2-emissions-will-impair-cognition"><span>here</span></a><span>.</span></p><p>Do you have photos or videos showing how climate change has impacted your region of the world? Please feel free to share them below!</p><h4>***</h4><p>Finally, some of you might know that I cohost a monthly get-together called <strong>the Ethics of Human Extinction Reading Group</strong> (with med student Devin Kellis). As the name suggests, we explore the ethical and evaluative implications of our extinction: would the disappearance of humanity be good or bad, better or worse, right or wrong (to bring about)? Why exactly? Would the prospect of extinction undermine key sources of value in our lives today? Do we have obligations to past people to continue to exist? And so on.</p><p>As I wrote <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/what-are-the-moral-implications-of-humanity-going-extinct">three years ago in </a><em><a href="https://aeon.co/essays/what-are-the-moral-implications-of-humanity-going-extinct">Aeon</a></em>, even if one doesn&#8217;t think that human extinction is likely this century &#8212; and I&#8217;m one of those who believes the probability is (with qualifications) <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/doomers-say-theres-a-20-chance-of?utm_source=publication-search">extremely low</a>, though I also think the likelihood of civilizational collapse (without extinction) <a href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/doomers-say-theres-a-20-chance-of?utm_source=publication-search">is almost certain</a> &#8212; the topic nonetheless foregrounds some of the most important issues relating to value, ethics, and meaning.</p><p><span>I mention this because </span><strong><span>next Saturday at 11:30am Eastern Time</span></strong><span>, a fantastic scholar at the University of Cambridge, SJ Beard, will be discussing their recent book </span><em><a href="https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=existential-hope-facing-our-future-when-the-signs-look-bad--9781509563043"><span>Existential Hope</span></a></em><span>, a description of which can be found </span><a href="https://www.sjbeard.com/existential-hope.html"><span>here</span></a><span>. I&#8217;ve known SJ for about 10 years and never once left a conversation with them </span><em><span>without</span></em><span> having learned something. They are very insightful, and I thought their book was fantastic. (Alongside </span><em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath%27s_Curse"><span>Goliath&#8217;s Curse</span></a></em><span>, written by SJ&#8217;s colleague Luke Kemp, I consider these books essential reading for anyone interested in global catastrophic risks.)</span></p><p><span>You are absolutely welcome to join us! Just email me at </span><a href="mailto:philosophytorres@gmail.com"><span>philosophytorres@gmail.com</span></a><span> for a Zoom link, as I&#8217;m anxious about posting it here due to the ever-present threat of </span><em><span>Zoombombers</span></em><span>. It should be really fun &#8212; or, well, &#8220;fun&#8221; in scare quotes!</span></p><p><span>I&#8217;m also happy to say that two interviews I gave to large podcasts over the past few years have been selected for inclusion in two different books. And I was just interviewed &#8212; yesterday &#8212; by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, which is my third or fourth appearance on </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_National"><span>Radio National</span></a><span>. I&#8217;ll keep you posted about when that comes out.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Wishing everyone the very best and, as always:</p><p><em>Thanks for reading and I&#8217;ll see you on the other side!</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>